https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

Yes. But I believe the BBC reported on approval ratings among Republicans, so of course the approval would be higher.

Flawless and downright abusive are quite different.



Tan, twitter, infedility, prostitutes, watersports, bullying, overturning laws, lying, flexing the truth, going back on his statements, collusion with enemy foreign powers, golly the list goes on and on... I dont think I could be bothered to continue.




With this I can almost agree, although I think its more a case of keeping a useful idiot in the spotlight, less that he is aware he is that useful idiot.

Das "as a spectacle" mean "for the show, the entertainment"? (my English, sorry). Agreed, it's just not what I hit "play" for, overall I was disappointed.

I'd also give Peterson a few points. Nonetheless those superficial terms (confrere, compatriot, bro, my friend, etc) annoy me like hell. If you feel the need to verbally express sympathy of that intensity or fraternisation it's not there to begin with. I wonder though if Peterson tried to use that to show that in the end we're all in the same boat, like he could (perhaps should) have done in the Newman interview after her "Yes you got me".

I had to look that article up. The only thing Southey does is in that childish article is play the man and try to ridicule him by using some stupid nicknames. She doesn't address even one point he raises in whatever it is she watched.

I suppose one could argue that we EF users, residents of a little country in the middle of Europe, far, far away from the USA, aren't really in any position to know much about Trump, let alone judge whether his behaviour befits his office.

But someone like John Brennan, a CIA agent who personally met (many times) and served all the presidents from George HW Bush onwards until January 2017, when his tenure as Director of the CIA ended, would have a pretty good idea of the moral composition of the man in the Oval Office. Here's what he has to say about Trump. A small snippet:

"The esteem with which I held the presidency was dealt a serious blow when Donald Trump took office. Almost immediately, I began to see a startling aberration from the remarkable, though human, presidents I had served. Mr. Trump’s lifelong preoccupation with aggrandizing himself seemed to intensify in office, and he quickly leveraged his 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. address and his Twitter handle to burnish his brand and misrepresent reality.

"Presidents throughout the years have differed in their approaches to policy, based on political platforms, ideologies and individual beliefs. Mr. Trump, however, has shown highly abnormal behavior by lying routinely to the American people without compunction, intentionally fueling divisions in our country and actively working to degrade the imperfect but critical institutions that serve us."

It's worth the read, and maybe it will help us all gain some insight into the man we've been debating for 666 pages here, from someone who actually knows him and can compare him to his predecessors.

Plus, Brennan used the word kakistocracy in a recent tweet. He has to get points for that.

Yep. Nothing to do with eye-glasses.

Ok well lets explore that, we know this whitehouse leaks like a sieve, we know also it is like a revolving door of staff changes many of whom have left disgruntled. Don't you think that, amongst the myriad of leaks, or from one of the many insiders to be shown the door we would have heard some mention of this strategy and the group implementing it?

Your English was spot on, yes. I meant for a couple of hours of entertainment, it wasn't a bad watch.

I've watched quite a lot of Peterson videos, and I would say he does make valid points often - and in the Munk Debates, I am certainly more on his side of the house, that forcing PC is a bad thing. I find it far more useful to let people speak their minds and reveal their true prejudices than try and judge people's intentions who are hiding behind societal expectations.

I think in many ways, Trump is a good example of this - if he was straight laced and not this cartoon book kakistocratic (just for you 22Y!) villain, we'd have no idea of the depth of his depravity and idiocy. As it is, he wears his ignorance like a badge of honour on his sleeve and it's easy for us all to see the sort of man and leader he is.

I'm still not convinced that the idiocy Trump displays isn't just show.

As an aside, for some reason your interpretation of him keeps reminding me of Peter Sellers in Being There.

I still find it amazing that Trump spent decades in the public eye but it was only once he became a serious contender for President that everyone remembered what a racist bigot he actually is.

Are you saying he became potus only thanks to his strategic planning? Does that make one smart or does that make one smart..

Recent?

Like most Trump supporters you copy Trump & simply invent stories without any evidence or checking the facts
Trump has long ago qualified as racist

May 2, 2011 - (CNN) -- An unapologetic Donald Trump insisted Sunday that he is "the least racist" when pressed as to whether racism motivated his recent focus on President Obama

Apr 30, 2011 - On Real Time last night, Bill Maher accused Donald Trump of being a racist for being one of the people questioning how Barack Obama got into Harvard,

Apr 28, 2011 - Donald Trump claimed victory after President Obama released his birth certificate ... critics are now blasting the noisy real estate baron for thinly-veiled racism.

OCT. 23, 2002 ''Trump is a chump!'' protesters shouted during a recent demonstration, accusing Mr. Trump of, at least, further inflaming passions and perhaps tainting the defendants' future jurors. Some called him a racist.

Given that he's 71 and morbidly obese, you have to assume his best years are behind him. He's potentially going to be in the office until he is 78 which will leave him a life expectancy of about minus 14 years. He's a billionaire (apparently) who has given up any chance of enjoying his money to work 24/7 (apparently) for the remainder of his enjoyable life.

Smart guy.

The obvious conclusion is that this 'sieve' only leaks what it wants to leak.

Tom

In Russia, sieve leaks you.

Here we go again, another clown in Trump's entourage who can't keep his pie-hole shut

Giuliani: Kim Jong-un 'begged' for summit to take place

Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani has said North Korea's leader "begged" for their summit to be rescheduled after the US president cancelled it.
Speaking at a conference in Israel, Mr Giuliani said Mr Trump's tough stance had forced Pyongyang's hand.
Mr Trump called off the summit in May, accusing North Korea of "tremendous anger and open hostility".
But plans for the 12 June bilateral in Singapore were revived after a conciliatory response from Pyongyang.
Mr Giuliani was speaking at an investment conference in Israel when he made the remark.
The Wall Street Journal first reported that Mr Giuliani said:"Well, Kim Jong-un got back on his hands and knees and begged for it, which is exactly the position you want to put him in."

There was no immediate response from the North Koreans to his comments.

How this story has developed
10 May: Trump says he will meet Kim in Singapore on 12 June
12 May: North Korea announces dismantling of test site
16 May: North threatens to scrap summit over comments by US National Security John Bolton about "Libyan model"
18 May: Trump distances himself from Bolton, saying US is not pushing for Libya-style denuclearisation
22 May: Trump insists that unless the US gets "certain conditions... we won't have the meeting"
24 May: Trump cancels the summit, blaming "tremendous anger and open hostility"
1 June: Trump announced the Singapore summit is back on after talks with senior North Korean envoy General Kim Yong-chol
Mr Trump said on Tuesday that plans were "moving along very nicely".

The anticipated summit nearly was derailed in May when US National Security Adviser John Bolton compared the North Korea situation to Libya.

Mr Bolton had said Pyongyang could follow a "Libya model" of verifiable denuclearisation, alarming Pyongyang, which watched Libya's Colonel Gaddafi give up his nuclear programme only for him to be killed by Western-backed rebels a few years later.
North Korea's foreign ministry released an angry statement singling out Mr Bolton. Mr Trump later distanced himself from his adviser's remarks.

Source

Top Republicans break with Trump over "Spygate", say FBI acted appropriately.

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr, both Republicans, broke with President Donald Trump on Wednesday over allegations spies infiltrated his 2016 campaign, saying they agree with GOP Rep. Trey Gowdy that the FBI did "exactly" what it should have done over its handling of a confidential source.

The declarations by the leading Republicans are the latest indications that Trump lacks any evidence to back up his claims of a major political scandal he calls "spygate" -- since those lawmakers were among a select group briefed on the classified intelligence at issue.

Source

Hopefully the GOP will continue to push back against major Trump "untruths" and demonstrate they continue to back their own policies?

I didn't say anything remotely like that, how did you get there from what I wrote?

I said that there is no super secret group implementing some genius strategy because the leakiness of the white house means we'd have heard of it.

Go on Tom, hit the groan button, you have my permission.

Love how you put emoticons in lieu of argument, it has the debating weight of saying 'end of'

So, the 'obvious' answer is that there is some super secret group following a well defined strategy and tightly controlling the information that is leaked?. Then whining about the unfair press for reporting what they were leaked? yeah, really 'obvious' conclusion.

Psst, don't forget to groan

Tom