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Old 12.06.2018, 16:14
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I don't think anyone (even Trump) beleives that N.Korea is 100% done with nukes. I said that sitting down and talking about de-nuclearization is better than not talking and continuing to build rockets and threatening other countries.
I hope that they have stopped building rockets, I thought they just offered to stop testing them. Do you have a source?
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Old 12.06.2018, 16:24
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We've had this discussion before. Bookies, don't always get it right, but they do more often than not which is why they make the money they do. If you're anti-Trump (basically everyone on here) than I'd be a little concerned at odds of 6/4.
Really? At this moment in time, he is the only name on that list who is sure to run (assuming he isn't impeached or arrested by then ). Since no-one else has officially declared, why would anyone put money on them, or don't you know how bookies operate?
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We've had this discussion before. Bookies, don't always get it right, but they do more often than not which is why they make the money they do. If you're anti-Trump (basically everyone on here) than I'd be a little concerned at odds of 6/4.
And what were the bookies' odds on Trump winning in 2016?
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Old 12.06.2018, 16:38
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"Legitimizing" him is the wrong word. He's like a mentally ill guy with a gun in a shopping mall. He's loading his gun. You can try to shoot him first, but there's a very good chance that some innocent people will get killed in the process. So you sit him down and try to talk to him. Do you call this "legitimizing" him?
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Old 12.06.2018, 16:38
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Assumed by whom?

Certainly not by me.

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Really? At this moment in time, he is the only name on that list who is sure to run (assuming he isn't impeached or arrested by then ). Since no-one else has officially declared, why would anyone put money on them, or don't you know how bookies operate?
100% this - he is the only candidate and the more people bet on him (as the only declared candidate), the more his odds shorten. William Hill 101.
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Assumed by whom?

Certainly not by me.

Tom
By important people who have to justify why NK has/hasn't breached the agreement.
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"Legitimizing" him is the wrong word. He's like a mentally ill guy with a gun in a shopping mall. He's loading his gun. You can try to shoot him first, but there's a very good chance that some innocent people will get killed in the process. So you sit him down and try to talk to him. Do you call this "legitimizing" him?
No, but telling the world how much you trust him, how much of a great guy he is, and stating that Otto Warmbier's death was worth it to get this guy to the table...that's legitimizing him.
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Old 12.06.2018, 16:44
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"Legitimizing" him is the wrong word. He's like a mentally ill guy with a gun in a shopping mall. He's loading his gun. You can try to shoot him first, but there's a very good chance that some innocent people will get killed in the process. So you sit him down and try to talk to him. Do you call this "legitimizing" him?
Absolutely.

Trump really is a loose cannon.
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Really? At this moment in time, he is the only name on that list who is sure to run (assuming he isn't impeached or arrested by then ). Since no-one else has officially declared, why would anyone put money on them, or don't you know how bookies operate?
Plus at 6:4 the bookies still believe he more likely won't win despite the enormous advantage a sitting president almost always has.
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Old 12.06.2018, 16:50
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Notwithstanding what I think of Trump, to even agree to meet with Kim is quite an achievement. I'm not entirely sure who was pulling the strings, or whether it was by gentle coercement or simply bullying tactics, and uncertainty still remains surrounding the outcome and whatever commitments are made, but it is certainly a positive step.
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The statement doesn't seem to say anything about the USA/rest of world denuclearizing............
The statement doesn't seem to say anything. Full stop.

Thanks for the links, Reb77Br.
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Notwithstanding what I think of Trump, to even agree to meet with Kim is quite an achievement. I'm not entirely sure who was pulling the strings, or whether it was by gentle coercement or simply bullying tactics, and uncertainty still remains surrounding the outcome and whatever commitments are made, but it is certainly a positive step.
you're.easily.impressed. its a political stunt. nothing.more.nothing.less. Trump wants the Nobel Peace prize, anything to "better" Obama.
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you're.easily.impressed. its a political stunt. nothing.more.nothing.less. Trump wants the Nobel Peace prize, anything to "better" Obama.
Got some odds for that too

https://www.oddschecker.com/awards/nobel-prizes
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"Legitimizing" him is the wrong word.
Actually it is.

So far the US have officially seen the Korean peninsula as the territory of only one state and that is South Korea. North Korea hasn't been officially recognised by the US so far.

The POTUS meeting Kim in a state summit is indeed the recognition of NK as a state and thereby also its legitimisation. This also means the US, and thereby de facto mos of the world, accept the peninsula's definitive separation into two states.

This is similar to the situation the democratic Republic of China is in. No sitting POTUS has officially met the ROC's sitting president since the People's Republic of China has been recognised as "the" China.
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you're.easily.impressed. its a political stunt. nothing.more.nothing.less. Trump wants the Nobel Peace prize, anything to "better" Obama.
I find your lack of understanding disturbing .
I think it's abundantly clear, I'm not a fan of Trump in the slightest and if you read my post correctly, I'm not sure anything concrete will come of it. I will concede, however, that this is more than any previous administration had achieved.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump is a breath of fresh air in International Politics.

He is not into the whole political correctness but rather wants to accomplish things ! Yes, he's got himself dirty over the years but so did the Clintons and all the others !

America need's a president who's not afraid to speak the truth !
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I find your lack of understanding disturbing .
I think it's abundantly clear, I'm not a fan of Trump in the slightest and if you read my post correctly, I'm not sure anything concrete will come of it. I will concede, however, that this is more than any previous administration had achieved.
you're naive. its a political charade from both sides to draw in chablis drinking chin strokers like you.

they shook hands, they had lunch together, touched each other up, slapped each other on the back:

Trump + Macron
Trump + Kim

What's the difference?
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America need's a president who's not afraid to speak the truth !
When's he going to start doing that?
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America need's a president who's not afraid to speak the truth !
Indeed it does! I hope it gets one very soon!
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