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Old 18.06.2018, 21:17
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They started building walls in China a couple of millennia ago but they gave up in recent centuries as they realised this old fashioned approach was not a good solution when faced with modern technology like planes, and cranes and extending ladders
Iirc it didn't work very well back then either. Didn't they just go around it?
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Old 18.06.2018, 21:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Here’s a NYT fact check https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/w...p-germany.html

Crime in Germany Is Way Up
False.

Germans Are ‘Turning Against Their Leadership’
Misleading

Migration Has ‘Strongly and Violently’ Changed European Culture
Needs more context.
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Old 18.06.2018, 21:45
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Iirc it didn't work very well back then either. Didn't they just go around it?
Indeed, remember the Maginot line
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Old 18.06.2018, 23:48
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Isn't Modi supposed to be an admirer of Trump?


What has a fringe Hindu nationalist organisation got anything to do with, erm, anything?
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Old 19.06.2018, 08:11
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http://www.dw.com/en/crime-in-german...ows/a-43485926

Including "The number of non-German suspects fell 22.8 percent"
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Migrants "may" have fueled violent crime rise. In one Bundesland.

Poor effort, even by the standards of this thread.
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Migrant crime in Germany rises by 50 per cent, new figures show

Germany sees rise in crime committed by asylum seekers
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:06
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"The number of suspected crimes by refugees, asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants rose"

Yawn. We can do this all day. You just need to accept the actual facts, that crime is down and at its lowest since the early 90s and stop trying to bulldoze your agenda into the conversation.
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:19
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"The number of suspected crimes by refugees, asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants rose"

Yawn. We can do this all day. You just need to accept the actual facts, that crime is down and at its lowest since the early 90s and stop trying to bulldoze your agenda into the conversation.
Germany's migrant crisis: Refugees committed more than 200,000 crimes last year
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:26
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Yup, they are wronguns alright...

"The number of crimes by immigrants rose in comparison over 2014 to 2015 by 79 percent, the number of refugees increased at the same time by 440 percent."

Yawn.
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:37
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Why are refugees disproportionately likely to be suspects in sexual assault cases?
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:41
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Take it elsewhere, Loz & StirB. Wrong thread. In any case, Loz, your desperate desire to paint anyone "not from here" in a bad light (somewhat ironic, coming from an expat) really doesn't reflect well on you. But carry on if you wish -- just elsewhere, please.
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:44
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So if 11% are refugees then 89% of suspects aren’t?

Which is the disproportionate bit again?
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In any case, Loz, your desperate desire to paint anyone "not from here" in a bad light (somewhat ironic, coming from an expat) really doesn't reflect well on you. But carry on if you wish -- just elsewhere, please.
Where have I said that?
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Old 19.06.2018, 09:47
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

But this link contains the same answer that you already posted in an earlier BBC link?

“Locals are reported less for crimes than strangers because people feel more threatened by strangers.”

According to your earlier link "The researchers also said that migrants were twice as likely to be reported to police for alleged violent crimes as German nationals."

You really need to read the content of your links, not just the headlines.

In an earlier report they said that meant any comparison of crime rates of migrants versus citizens was unreliable
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Where have I said that?
Said what?
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Take it elsewhere, Loz & StirB. Wrong thread. In any case, Loz, your desperate desire to paint anyone "not from here" in a bad light (somewhat ironic, coming from an expat) really doesn't reflect well on you. But carry on if you wish -- just elsewhere, please.
Point taken, but I don't think attempting to portray immigrants in a bad light is a million miles removed from the subject of the thread. Will refrain from commenting on the European version of it here though, fair enough.
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Old 19.06.2018, 10:26
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Back on topic

Trump threatens additional tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods.
Dow futures fell over 400 points but now slightly recovered

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To quote an esteemed EF colleague "I thought Xi was an admirer of Trump".

Big problem is nobody knows how to evaluate the effects of a trade war.

It was much simpler in the old days when countries simply sold goods to each other but now the world is much more complex and there is no good experience of the possible effects.
Now there are complex global supply routes; just one example, many computer chips are made in the US, sent to China for testing and packaging and then returned to the US either for final assembly or in completed goods. These chips are used in everything from phones to cars to refrigerators and if they face tariffs in both directions then there will be widespread price increases in the US.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Paul Krugman from the NYTimes.
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So Trump isn’t making America great again; he’s trashing the things that made us great, turning us into just another bully — one whose bullying will be far less effective than he imagines.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/o...an-empire.html
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Old 19.06.2018, 11:40
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So (and quite apart from the massive holes already pointed out by others) you answer a current 2018 quote on up to date data with a couple of misleading year old items?

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Take it elsewhere, Loz & StirB. Wrong thread. In any case, Loz, your desperate desire to paint anyone "not from here" in a bad light (somewhat ironic, coming from an expat) really doesn't reflect well on you. But carry on if you wish -- just elsewhere, please.
As the point is about a tweet by Trump this is not OT
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Old 19.06.2018, 12:01
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As the point is about a tweet by Trump this is not OT
The page and a half of back-and-forth argumentation about migrants to Europe rapidly will be. Trust me.
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