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This sounds like a job for Zapp Brannigan!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Or Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Old 20.06.2018, 10:17
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Germany's population increased by about 2% since 2014. Violent crime increased by 4.4%. Who made up the majority of the population increase?
2014? Cherry picking!

Violent crime in 2017 was lower than 2016, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 &&&&&&

Your attempts to prove a non point are ever more desperate and insubstantial.
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Old 20.06.2018, 10:36
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Your original link said crime by immigrants rose by 90%.
Now thanks to your detailed table we see at the same time illegal border crossing crime increased by 210%; case closed!
Why is that case closed?

Do you understand the difference between a correlation and a linear correlation?

Do you understand that the number of illegal border crossings does not correlate linearly to the number of migrants in a country, no more than your annual salary doesn't corrlate directly to the money on your bank account.

Or are you wilfully confusing these things because that's the only way to reach a conclusion that suits your pre-formed agena?
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Old 20.06.2018, 10:38
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Or Zaphod Beeblebrox
There's only one team capable of fulfilling this role....

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2014? Cherry picking!

Violent crime in 2017 was lower than 2016, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 &&&&&&

Your attempts to prove a non point are ever more desperate and insubstantial.
Kennedy wasn't assasinated in 1960. He wasn't assaisnbated in 1961 either. Or in 1962. Or in 1964. Or in 1965.

Therefore 1963 was a statistical outlier. It should be ignored.

Therefore Kennedy wasn't assasinated.
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Why is that case closed?

Do you understand the difference between a correlation and a linear correlation?

Do you understand that the number of illegal border crossings does not correlate linearly to the number of migrants in a country, no more than your annual salary doesn't corrlate directly to the money on your bank account.

Or are you wilfully confusing these things because that's the only way to reach a conclusion that suits your pre-formed agena?
All correlations are meaningless unless there is a definite cause-and-effect relationship and you have eliminated all confounding factors.

Anyway, this is still irrelevant as to whether Trump is a good president or not.
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Kennedy wasn't assasinated in 1960. He wasn't assaisnbated in 1961 either. Or in 1962. Or in 1964. Or in 1965.

Therefore 1963 was a statistical outlier. It should be ignored.

Therefore Kennedy wasn't assasinated.
Worst. Analogy. Ever.
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Old 20.06.2018, 12:37
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Why is that case closed?

Do you understand the difference between a correlation and a linear correlation?

Do you understand that the number of illegal border crossings does not correlate linearly to the number of migrants in a country, no more than your annual salary doesn't corrlate directly to the money on your bank account.

Or are you wilfully confusing these things because that's the only way to reach a conclusion that suits your pre-formed agena?
According to the table that Loz posted there were 154K illegal border crossings and 114K immigrants suspected of crimes so I postulate that all illegal immigrants perform the crime of illegal border crossing.
The number of illegal border crossings increased in 2015 by 200% therefore consequently so did the number of immigrants suspected of crimes.
Got it now?

This has nothing to do with the number of migrants in the country
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Old 20.06.2018, 14:52
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

C’mon guys. Agree to disagre!
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Old 20.06.2018, 15:29
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According to the table that Loz posted there were 154K illegal border crossings and 114K immigrants suspected of crimes so I postulate that all illegal immigrants perform the crime of illegal border crossing.
The number of illegal border crossings increased in 2015 by 200% therefore consequently so did the number of immigrants suspected of crimes.
Got it now?
As you said youtrself on another thread, crossing a border in an irregular sitution is not a crime but a misedemaeanour.

Furthermore, asylum seekers and migrants are not required to provide evidence of how they crossed the border. Thus no proceedeures are filed against them for doing so illegally.

So even if they did cross the border illegally. Nobody in German officialdom gives a hoot.

Got it now?
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Old 20.06.2018, 15:49
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As you said youtrself on another thread, crossing a border in an irregular sitution is not a crime but a misedemaeanour.

Furthermore, asylum seekers and migrants are not required to provide evidence of how they crossed the border. Thus no proceedeures are filed against them for doing so illegally.

So even if they did cross the border illegally. Nobody in German officialdom gives a hoot.

Got it now?
Seems German officialdom does give a hoot since "illegal entry" is listed in the table of 2015 crime statistics that Loz posted.

Conundrum isn't it!
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Old 20.06.2018, 18:09
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Interesting statistic

From the Washington Post.

According to an analysis by The Post’s Fact Checker through the end of May, Trump had made 3,251 false or misleading claims in 497 days — an average of 6.5 such claims per day of his presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.5de78523cfb9
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[QUOTE=bowlie;2958749]Seeking asylum is not a crime under US immigration law.

The focus in here is on children arrested on US border! So, how to solve this big problem, in due to them resulting in crime commitment by their parents.
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Seeking asylum is not a crime under US immigration law.

The focus in here is on children arrested on US border! So, how to solve this big problem, in due to them resulting in crime commitment by their parents.
How about the parents stop committing the crime?
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Old 20.06.2018, 18:37
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Seems German officialdom does give a hoot since "illegal entry" is listed in the table of 2015 crime statistics that Loz posted.

Conundrum isn't it!
Only for those who refuse to understand, but selectively read and interpret facts. I'm not going to explain it again. this conversation only goes around in circles.
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Only for those who refuse to understand, but selectively read and interpret facts. I'm not going to explain it again. this conversation only goes around in circles.
I expected that you and others would have long ago identified the flaw in my argument which is the number of immigrant suspects listed in Loz's table excludes offences against foreigners law
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

An U turn

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Trump said he would sign an executive order halting the separation of families who enter the U.S. illegally.
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Hard to believe this will really happen but will be easy for Trump to do, just sign the paper!
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"womp womp"

says all you need to know about the character and moral fibre of Spanky supporters. Oh America, what have you become?

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"*

*as long as they aren't too Hispanic looking
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