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Old 25.06.2018, 11:38
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This is just ignorant.
As is every post you have ever made.

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Old 25.06.2018, 12:04
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He's moved on from immigration now, and into ramping up the trade war.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...78975391322112

Artificial trade barriers???
I thought he started the whole thing?

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The elephant in this room is that any countries who change tariffs on US imports then have to according to WTO rules change the same tariffs on all imports.
That would go for within EU as well?
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That would go for within EU as well?
In terms of the WTO, the EU (i.e. all countries within it) counts as a single trading bloc...

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e...munities_e.htm
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He's moved on from immigration now, and into ramping up the trade war.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...78975391322112

Artificial trade barriers???
Trade war is something very bad, but in this case Trump is right and it was not him who started it all.

The USA has been buying for decades a ton of products from the EU without or with very small import taxes. On the other hand, the EU has some ridiculous trade barriers for products such as soy. It's not only with the USA but with a lot more countries such as Argentina, Brazil, etc. If the EU wants to continue to sell their products in the USA, so they must open their own market too!.

In summary, the media is wrongly portraying Trump as the one who initiated these trade barriers when in reality he was just the first one to raise the voice to them.
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Trade war is something very bad, but in this case Trump is right and it was not him who started it all.

The USA has been buying for decades a ton of products from the EU without or with very small import taxes. On the other hand, the EU has some ridiculous trade barriers for products such as soy. It's not only with the USA but with a lot more countries such as Argentina, Brazil, etc. If the EU wants to continue to sell their products in the USA, so they must open their own market too!.

In summary, the media is wrongly portraying Trump as the one who initiated these trade barriers when in reality he was just the first one to raise the voice to them.
And for the nth time, not true. Quoting myself quoting the World Bank:
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Or maybe not. The article, like you, picks on specific issues and tried to use that to draw a general conclusion. Fact is the US and EU import tariffs are actually pretty much identical at a weighted average of 1.6% according to the world bank

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator....MRCH.WM.AR.ZS
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One of the Don's latest missives...

The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!

From Fox News of all places, last year...

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...mpression=true

Lol.
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The elephant in this room is that any countries who change tariffs on US imports then have to according to WTO rules change the same tariffs on all imports.
The reactions to Trump's tarriff increases aren't changes as such, they're retaliatory measures for what they posit is against WTO rules.
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Is Harley Davidson moving some production from the US offshore because of the EU's tariffs?
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The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!

From Fox News of all places, last year...

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...mpression=true

Lol.
I agree with Trump about serving her, to be honest. If you start knocking back people for the political beliefs you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you are criticising these religious types refusing to bake cakes out of their bakery for gay marriages.

Sanders might have politics which don't align with, well, the 21st Century generally but she has every right to eat in a restaurant.

As usual Trump could have done a better job with the Tweet instead of rambling about canopies and dirt like a moron but the sentiment is probably not far off the mark.
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Is Harley Davidson moving some production from the US offshore because of the EU's tariffs?
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...fdisclosur.htm
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I agree with Trump about serving her, to be honest. If you start knocking back people for the political beliefs you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you are criticising these religious types refusing to bake cakes out of their bakery for gay marriages.

Sanders might have politics which don't align with, well, the 21st Century generally but she has every right to eat in a restaurant.

As usual Trump could have done a better job with the Tweet instead of rambling about canopies and dirt like a moron but the sentiment is probably not far off the mark.
You can choose your political beliefs, you can't choose your sexuality.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this would fall under the remit of the laws the Reps created specifically for allowing personal objections (for example, gay cakes, morning after pills / abortion pills, etc), so they can't be crowing just because someone on the other side of the fence dared to use it.
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Sure, and that's not what I'm saying.

You can choose how you deal with others, though. And that includes accepting their gender, orientation, ethnicity, political beliefs, profession, everything.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but this would fall under the remit of the laws the Reps created specifically for allowing personal objections (for example, gay cakes, morning after pills / abortion pills, etc), so they can't be crowing just because someone on the other side of the fence dared to use it.
Also agree but if you don't agree with the remit of laws allowing people to refuse gay cakes or morning after pills or muslim trousers or whatever, you have to then swallow your disgust of moronic politicians and let them have their steak and chips or whatever it is in your eatery. Otherwise you are kind of agreeing with those laws allowing people to discriminate based on their supposed beliefs.

Personally, if I ran a shop and Trump came in asking to buy one of my lovely pullovers, I'd sell it to him no problems. I'd wait till he'd walked out of the shop with his purchase then flick massive Vs at him.

Same as I used to do with the arsey off-duty copper that would come into the newsagents I worked in when I was a teenager...
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Sure, and that's not what I'm saying.

You can choose how you deal with others, though. And that includes accepting their gender, orientation, ethnicity, political beliefs, profession, everything.



Also agree but if you don't agree with the remit of laws allowing people to refuse gay cakes or morning after pills or muslim trousers or whatever, you have to then swallow your disgust of moronic politicians and let them have their steak and chips or whatever it is in your eatery. Otherwise you are kind of agreeing with those laws allowing people to discriminate based on their supposed religious beliefs.

Personally, if I ran a shop and Trump came in asking to buy one of my lovely pullovers, I'd sell it to him no problems. I'd wait till he'd walked out of the shop with his purchase then flick massive Vs at him.

Same as I used to do with the arsey off-duty copper that would come into the newsagents I worked in when I was a teenager...
I get where you are coming from, but it's the law. I would use the fullest extent of the law to exercise my beliefs whether I agreed with the law or not, otherwise I am being punished by the law (when it goes against my beliefs) with zero upside. I'd also then vote against it or complain to my local representative to have the law struck from the books.

I don't see anything wrong with using laws against people who vehemently fought to take rights away from people, it's surely the most respectful thing you can do
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The way the environment there is extremely polarized now, though, makes servis without political statement impossible. You serve the lady, which means you agree with her. You don't serve her which people interpret as being against her politics. Either way you are going to lose customers one way or another. It is really binary, daft and "if you aren't with us you are against us" mindset which I actually think Trump is trying to change. I do not think business should be mixed with gov/politics and vice versa. It is utopian. But the way politics pollutes absolutely all in the US, I guess one has to start somewhere.

I think politicized everything is rammed into people's brains not because there would be an interest to improve anything, but as a marketing scheme. Politics sell. They also happen to deprive businesses of clients, too. If I buy something, I don't want interrogate the business owner on his political views nor do I want to be quizzed, either.
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It is really binary, daft and "if you aren't with us you are against us" mindset which I actually think Trump is trying to change.
This is literally the opposite of what he is doing. Every other tweet is us vs the Democrats, when it isn't us vs the immigrants.
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I don't see anything wrong with using laws against people who vehemently fought to take rights away from people, it's surely the most respectful thing you can do
You mean you don't see anything wrong with a restaurant kicking out a lady because of her political beliefs.
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It is really binary, daft and "if you aren't with us you are against us" mindset which I actually think Trump is trying to change.
You're kidding, right? I mean, you're being ironic here. Aren't you?!

Trump has made it clear over and over again: it's his way or the highway. And if you don't agree with him: "Lock 'em up!"

It's often been said that Trump has so far been the most divisive President in US history. And I'm sure he's doing it in a very calculated fashion.
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You mean you don't see anything wrong with the restaurant kicking out a lady because of her political beliefs.
I don't. Restaurant owners have the legal right to refuse service. Would you want to deny (one of) them that right?

What if the customer were a certified In Ku Klux Klansman? Or the leader of a local neo-Nazi group? Would you want them in your restaurant?

OK, how about a woman who routinely lies to defend her boss's racist, mysoginist, narcissistic agenda, and who had just supported the enforced separation of children from their parents? No, I wouldn't want to serve her either.

To be clear, and perfectly fair, I wouldn't serve her boss, either.

It's not because she's a Republican, or holds conservative views. Actually, I'm fully in accord with that. It's her personal behaviour that has been so offensive.

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Offensive to you.

And others who are outraged.
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