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Old 11.07.2018, 15:27
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Trump claimed his tax cuts would boost companies so they could invest in workers and job creation.
Analysis shows that 57% of the tax savings went to shareholders (the 10%) and only 7% to workers, less than the 8% that went to customers...
Fake news. CNN.

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It baffles me how people who (rightfully ) claim Trump lacks class, intelligence, logical ability ..... well, basically lacks everything except money .... then react to him on the same low level. And seem to take pride in that

The only thing I conclude from that is that my desire to ever meet those people is as little as the desire to meet Trump.
I'm guessing because it's the only thing that Trump understands. He belittles and bullies everyone, calls them names, ignores all the facts, makes up his own facts, etc.

What he says and what he does are not consistent with each other. He puts tariffs on Chinese steel because it's so bad for America, but when he was building his real estate empire cheap Chinese steel was fine. He laments the trade deficit, but his MAGA gear and most if not all of his daughter's clothing/shoe line is made in China.

Nothing anyone says or does will get him to change his ways. However if you mock him you'll at least get under his skin. I guess some folks consider that a small victory?
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Old 11.07.2018, 15:42
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I'm guessing because it's the only thing that Trump understands. He belittles and bullies everyone, calls them names, ignores all the facts, makes up his own facts, etc.

What he says and what he does are not consistent with each other. He puts tariffs on Chinese steel because it's so bad for America, but when he was building his real estate empire cheap Chinese steel was fine. He laments the trade deficit, but his MAGA gear and most if not all of his daughter's clothing/shoe line is made in China.

Nothing anyone says or does will get him to change his ways. However if you mock him you'll at least get under his skin. I guess some folks consider that a small victory?
In other words, we cut off our nose to spite our face?

Who cares if people are in a race to the bottom, dropping all standards, destroying all space for reasoned debate and generally acting like morons.

It's getting under Trump's skin, and the sacrificial derstruction of decency, respect and due process is but a small price for such a victory.

After all, he started it. Right?

Yeah. I think I totaly buy that.
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Old 11.07.2018, 15:43
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Fake news. CNN.



I'm guessing because it's the only thing that Trump understands. He belittles and bullies everyone, calls them names, ignores all the facts, makes up his own facts, etc.

What he says and what he does are not consistent with each other. He puts tariffs on Chinese steel because it's so bad for America, but when he was building his real estate empire cheap Chinese steel was fine. He laments the trade deficit, but his MAGA gear and most if not all of his daughter's clothing/shoe line is made in China.

Nothing anyone says or does will get him to change his ways. However if you mock him you'll at least get under his skin. I guess some folks consider that a small victory?
Yep. He will brag that no American president ever had his own balloon fly over London, ever, and a biggly one too. He will probably ask to borrow it for the next election-campaign
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Old 11.07.2018, 15:47
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In other words, we cut off our nose to spite our face?

Who cares if people are in a race to the bottom, dropping all standards, destroying all space for reasoned debate and generally acting like morons.

It's getting under Trump's skin, and the sacrificial derstruction of decency, respect and due process is but a small price for such a victory.

After all, he started it. Right?

Yeah. I think I totaly buy that.
I'm not saying it's right, that just seems to be how things are going.
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Old 11.07.2018, 15:58
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I'm not saying it's right, that just seems to be how things are going.
I understood what you meant.
I disagree that it will "get under his skin" and/or will achieve anything though.
We're just all spiraling downward with him and some people (many by now) don't seem to realize that they enjoy EXACTLY the same feelings Trump seems to enjoy

However, I just hope people get back to a certain level once this nightmare is over.
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Old 11.07.2018, 16:17
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And the usual Trump disregard for facts in there as well. Claims Germany get 60-70% of their energy supply from Russia. It's actually about 30%.

You can debate the actual numbers, but the fact is that Germany is heavily reliant on Russia for energy, and then relies on US military to defend them from Russia (because Germany and many other EU countries don't spend money on their outdated and decrepit militaries). Trump does have a point there.

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Germany relies on imports to supply more than 70% of its domestic energy demand, with Russia alone representing a quarter of the country's imports of natural gas, oil, and coal. According to the International Energy Agency, Russia supplies about 38% of German gas imports, 35% of oil imports, and 25% of coal imports.

That dependence makes Germany particularly vulnerable to any supply disruptions that prevent Russian gas from flowing across its borders. It's not surprising, then, that Chancellor Angela Merkel has been especially circumspect in her dealings with Vladimir Putin; she knows that Russia has the upper hand. If Russian supplies were cut off for any number of reasons, Germany has only three options left, none of them particularly attractive.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...-gas/14758961/
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Old 11.07.2018, 16:25
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The complexity of the situation is increased somewhat by some of the gas being imported by Germany being re-exported to other countries in Europe.
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Germany relies on imports to supply more than 70% of its domestic energy demand, with Russia alone representing a quarter of the country's imports of natural gas, oil, and coal. According to the International Energy Agency, Russia supplies about 38% of German gas imports, 35% of oil imports, and 25% of coal imports.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...-gas/14758961/
More or less what I was looking at. ~35% of 70%, therefore 25%, a bit less than I worked out (the coal number I found was unclear).
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Old 11.07.2018, 18:38
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Trump will definitely make a difference.
As someone said, companies who shifted production outside the US will not reverse after Trump and/or tariffs are gone.

If Trump stays in his chair long enough, who knows it might even be worth for companies to move production to Switzerland?
Indeed once companies make the investment to build a nice new production facility in a low cost country with lax labour laws and a strong market then they won't ever return.

China is not only the biggest auto market but the Govt is strongly supporting electric cars, a great fit for Tesla.

Meanwhile from above!
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President Trump’s spiritual adviser Paula White said this week that Jesus would have been sinful and “would not have been our Messiah” if he had broken immigration laws.

Said that there was a difference between the undocumented immigrants being detained for illegally entering the U.S. and Jesus being a refugee in Egypt.

'Well, Jesus was a refugee,’ ” White told CBN. “And yes, He did live in Egypt for three-and-a-half years. But it was not illegal. If he had broke the law then he would have been sinful and he would not have been our Messiah."
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Who knew God supported immigration laws?
Did I ever post "you could not make this stuff up"?

Maybe they should rewrite some parts of the Holy Bible, for example?
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Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
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I could not find a quotation supporting stealing immigrants children?
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Old 11.07.2018, 18:41
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You can debate the actual numbers, but the fact is that Germany is heavily reliant on Russia for energy, and then relies on US military to defend them from Russia (because Germany and many other EU countries don't spend money on their outdated and decrepit militaries). Trump does have a point there.


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...-gas/14758961/
For once I agree with Trump that Germany dumping nuclear energy was a dumb decision that put them in the Russian hands.
I keep seeing headlines that Germany is 100% renewable energy now but then why do they have to buy so much from Russia?
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For once I agree with Trump that Germany dumping nuclear energy was a dumb decision that put them in the Russian hands.
I keep seeing headlines that Germany is 100% renewable energy now but then why do they have to buy so much from Russia?
Because wind power is only at full capacity when Trump is visiting.
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For once I agree with Trump that Germany dumping nuclear energy was a dumb decision that put them in the Russian hands.
I keep seeing headlines that Germany is 100% renewable energy now but then why do they have to buy so much from Russia?
Because they are comparing apples and oranges.

On a good day with lots of wind and a bright sun, they can possibly generate enough power to be nominally autonomous for a brief moment, maybe even a stretch lasting several minutes.

But that's not the same as being able to do so all the time.
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For once I agree with Trump that Germany dumping nuclear energy was a dumb decision that put them in the Russian hands.
I keep seeing headlines that Germany is 100% renewable energy now but then why do they have to buy so much from Russia?
Switzerland is dumping nuclear energy too, and soon. They'll have to make up the shortfall from somewhere (Russia via Germany?)
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Switzerland is dumping nuclear energy too, and soon. They'll have to make up the shortfall from somewhere (Russia via Germany?)
Switzerland are smart enough to find reasons for delaying exiting nuclear.

From Energy Strategy 2050 after the May 2017 vote
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Switzerland are smart enough to find reasons for delaying exiting nuclear.

From Energy Strategy 2050 after the May 2017 vote
<<The country's five existing reactors will be allowed to remain in operation as long as the Federal Nuclear Safety Inspectorate considers them safe to do so.>>
It makes more sense (to me) to not replace something when it's at the end of it's life than to tear everything down just because it was decided to no longer pursue the technique.
It is called "sanfter Übergang".
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Senate lawmakers on Tuesday overwhelmingly voted in favor of a motion supporting NATO ( 97 - 2), as President Trump continues to criticize the alliance ahead of his summit in Europe.

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Trump and GOP are not well aligned are they?
This is just a token vote but is a clear expression of Senate opinion.
Another symbolic vote
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The Senate on Wednesday took a symbolic shot at President Trump’s trade policy amid anxiety on Capitol Hill over his tariff strategy.

Senators voted 88-11 to instruct lawmakers hashing out a deal on a government funding bill to include language “providing a role for Congress” on tariffs implemented for national security reasons, known as Section 232 of the trade laws.

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The vote margin, with more senators supporting it than the amount needed to override a [Presidential] veto, underscores the depth of concern on Capitol Hill.
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It baffles me how people who (rightfully ) claim Trump lacks class, intelligence, logical ability ..... well, basically lacks everything except money .... then react to him on the same low level. And seem to take pride in that

The only thing I conclude from that is that my desire to ever meet those people is as little as the desire to meet Trump.
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<<Senate lawmakers on Tuesday overwhelmingly voted in favor of a motion supporting NATO ( 97 - 2), as President Trump continues to criticize the alliance ahead of his summit in Europe.

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Trump and GOP are not well aligned are they?
This is just a token vote but is a clear expression of Senate opinion.
Seems a clear message to the European governements from the US governement to me
We shake Trumps hand but deal with the ones back home.

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Nope, he seems my type. There are these nuances in humour, you see
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Senate lawmakers on Tuesday overwhelmingly voted in favor of a motion supporting NATO ( 97 - 2), as President Trump continues to criticize the alliance ahead of his summit in Europe.

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Trump and GOP are not well aligned are they?
This is just a token vote but is a clear expression of Senate opinion.
Now the House also passes a resolution in support of NATO by unanimous voice vote

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It would be nice if Congress could get Trump under control.
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White House: Kelly [White House chief of staff] looked away after Trump's attack on Germany because he was disappointed in breakfast

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An excuse on the level of "A big dog ran off with my homework"!
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