Wrong. We have seen lots of pieces claiming to be about the lexicon of facism without actually looking into that in a wholistic manner but rather cherry picking cliches.

The left is just as if not more complicit in bringing unpleasant terminology out of history books and into political discussions.

But it's just easier to blame others, and then shout whataboustism when somebody holds up a mirror.

I'm sure the Berners were saying the same about you. But look, you're a true beam of sunshine enriching the lives of all you touch.

I noticed that too.

I suspect he was desperately trying not to start laughing maniacally.

How do you cope for a description if the people who can't stand the shit show going on at the moment are not politically left?

Do you have to be left to find the whole Trump circus and Brexit disaster a giant facepalm on the great slate of historical events?

Seems "the left" is just a lazy catch-all for "people who don't see things as I do"

How can you say it's wrong without knowing the reference material?
For reference:
GMB
Sky News
Question Time
This Week
Channel 4 News
Andrew Marr Show
The Politics Show
etc...

Are all of the programmes 'the left'?

Nobody is saying it’s great, I have mates that grew up in some pretty hideous parts of London, but it’s not “multiculturalism” that made those places miserable, it was a lack of government funding for amenities and schooling, dire housing and higher crime rates because of the neglect. But one thing I can tell you is that those communities are richer and more welcoming then most other communities in the UK. I have also lived in different parts of London, but it’s the ones you would define as an enriched that I have found to be the friendliest. I doesn’t mean I enjoy walking the streets alone at 3am, but I am more scared of being attacked unprovoked by white youth in Kingston at that time of night, then being robbed in Clapham or Willesden or Southal by a refugee. Its a fact that impoverishment creates crime. Maybe if governments stopped giving massive tax breaks to multinationals, they could divest more money into impoverished areas.

There are people who advocate mass movement of foreign populations into new areas in Europe/US, for the sake of "humanity". Instead of West trying to help in the conflict zones, it seems, which would have been the alternative. I am not saying it is a good one since it hasn't been exactly working up until now, either.

The illogical part of is, majority of us are all accepted guests and new citizens of a place, that has imho been the most protectionist about miniscule areas (municipalities even, not only cantons!), and where borders and the respect to native local law and conditions still rule. It has proven to be very economical, the federation of small tight areas blooms. No? Why. Because nobody could ever really get in, unless strictly under quotas or willing to go by these native local rules. Whats gets a ticket on EF as horrible and inhuman racism, is a principle that has made this place into a booming economy and pretty patriotistic culture(s) with national pride. There has never been a moment of open borders here. Jobs are protected by bulletproof licensing, and not just with tough language requirements to weed out foreigners but also filters for relatively local nomads from other cantons. Things are so under control, that this place routinely says no to even these affluent westerners and their maneurism. Why? Racism? Of course not! Define it then, please.

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Or piles?

Great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ.

So agreement alone does not differentiate between deep insight and just parroting the same stuff.

The population of Switzerland is 24% foreign (census 2013)

The population of the UK 12% foreign (census 2011)

Wow, You do love to dish out the stereotypes, don't you?

people who can't stand the shit storm =/= proof that there is a revival of the lexicography of facism.

I don't approve of all the stuff going on for example. But I'm not trying to trace it all to fascism.

Or that all those who don't agree with your view are fascists?

Inflationary applicability of terms?

Sure... but they aren't sending their best people to the UK.

That’s like saying normal people in Nazi germany weren’t really Nazis because they didn’t wear Nazi uniforms. They collectively went along with it all, they might not have physically ganged up on those that didn’t agree and murdered them or forced them into submission, but they were equally complicit.

Btw, in case you can’t understand, which I don’t think you can. The reference to fascism is only partly related to immigration and race, there are many other indicators that are being used at the moment.

You do realize that the definitions of "foreign" in both places differ. The road to CH passport is far from easy. I wouldn't call it racist.

So help me out here - how do you come to your label of "left" in that case?

Bit confused at the reference to fascists, tbh. Where did I use the term fascist?

Just trying to pin down why anyone who raises their head above the parapet to question the more extreme opinions on here about immigration, Trump, Merkel, etc., is instantly shot down as "left", "liberal", sjw, or whatever other label-du-jour happens to come along.

Oh yeah, forgot about the favourite and special "virtue-signalling" label.

Are you talking about Switzerland because I do not recognise it?

Switzerland belongs to both Schengen and FMOP and has 25% foreigners.

Not only does Switzerland not say no to affluent Westerners but the country is also full of Russian oligarchs and their families.

Source

Lol...it is a real treat to listen to an affluent westerner giving me a lecture on fascists. We, non affluent EEs, actually lived that crap. Sell your guilt trip elsewhere.

I know it came out harsh..but. People are coaxing others into attitudes that have nothing to do with past and all to do with now, it is really dangerous I think to try to label your opponent with these schematic accusations. Not everybody who doesn't agree with the solution Merkel tried to force or the left in the US are suggesting, is a racist, nazi or fascist. If we move away from these labels, we will understand eachother better, we can even maybe democraticly brainstorm?

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You are quite right.

The British census counts all "foreign-born" permanent residents.

The Swiss census tallies by nationality of permanent residents.

So, you have inadvertently made my point even more profound - the 24% in Switzerland are actually foreigners, i.e. do not hold a Swiss passport. The 12% in Britain are the foreign-born permanent residents, so actually many of these 12% are actually now British citizens so the real figure is far lower!

Wow! That's phenomenally presumptive of you.

Some factoids that probably mess with the bigger narrative here:

Mussolini didn't actually think much of the concept of race or racism:

He didn't like capitalism either

He liked Keynes

Source: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

Of course you can also find quotes that contradict these to varying degrees. But let's say the definition is not as clear cut as it may seem. To me it seems there are elements of facism on both sides in this debate, as indeed there are in virtually any political debate. Let's not take out the tar brush too quickly.