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Collective guilttrips never solve anything. There are many decent people in the West who do nothing evil to anyone nor do they feel so evilly towards other races, as negatively you tried to paint them. This "accident of birth" as you put it...actually dissmisses one's attitude towards one's national identity. This collective push is marxist. Afluent West is certainly not kind to all if its citizens, as it is.
Hold the front page, Musicchick misinterprets something.

Didn't say that, didn't mention guilt, you did, which says lots, didn't mention evil either. My point was that our lives are a matter of chance, good or bad, we didn't create this affluent western lifestyle; we were born into it, I don't feel guilty to be born in the developed world, but I don't need to feel guitly to feel compassion, the two are not mutually exclusive, capisci?
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Never mind the immigrants, when are we going to do something about the leftists?
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Crikey, a Brexiteer without the ability to read and comprehend. Well I never.


Are you trolling, or genuinely thick?
Typical.

Will you answer the question or simply attempt to deflect and insult once again?
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Never mind the immigrants, when are we going to do something about the leftists?
Right after the ones who's avatars have red hats.

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Never mind the immigrants, when are we going to do something about the leftists?
There we go, those who constantly seem to bring the race into the debate are....left or right?

Those who constantly stoop down to insults are...left or right?
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Hold the front page, Musicchick misinterprets something.

Didn't say that, didn't mention guilt, you did, which says lots, didn't mention evil either. My point was that our lives are a matter of chance, good or bad, we didn't create this affluent western lifestyle; we were born into it, I don't feel guilty to be born in the developed world, but I don't need to feel guitly to feel compassion, the two are not mutually exclusive, capisci?
Why do you even mention compassion, what has that anything to do with foreign policy? Have you tried it on a Migros cashier? How about your professor?

You make it sound that you have it while your opponents do not. That's a quite a leap of logic.

Another thing is this "being born into" notion. To assume it is haphasard and by complete chance that some westerners feel or are indeed fortunate...not everyone feels nor lives this way. Nor everybody in the EU, either. Not everybody in the US. We are not born into the world by haphasard, where, why and to whom we are born matters. I think to be told to ignore it is not really welcoming the spirit of acceptance and integrity, one's identity is a complex deal for most folks. This pan-European vague idea of an identity looks good in theory but practically doesn't exist.

Do you welcome all diverse opinions by calling them "misinterpretations"? How long do people stick to talking to you?
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Lol...it is a real treat to listen to an affluent westerner giving me a lecture on fascists. We, non affluent EEs, actually lived that crap. Sell your guilt trip elsewhere.
You, a non-affluent Eastern European, actually lived under fascism. Is that what you're saying? Because unless you were alive in the 1940s and living in Romania, Slovakia, or Hungary, I really don't think you've ever experienced Eastern European fascism.

What you did experience is the exact opposite.
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Spanky "Flip-flop" Trump now claims he "misspoke" at his press conference and that actually, he sees no reason why it was not Russia that meddled in the presidential election in the US.

It must be difficult, simultaneously sucking up to Putin, FOX News and Middle America. So many lies balls to keep in the air at the same time.
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And now a fresh flip-flop from Spanky: all of a sudden there's no rush to finalise nuclear disarmament in North Korea. Trump had previously repeatedly stated that denuclearisation should commence "without delay", but after months of absolutely nothing happening, he now says that there is "no time limit... no speed limit" and any negotiations will be "probably a longer process than anybody would like".

So now that Kim has said "no, go away" when Spanky told him to hand over his weapons, Trump has found himself painted into a corner. It must be a familiar situation for him by now.

Trump looking petulant is starting to look very familiar, too.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Maybe we should rephrase the qestion?( in light of the Helsinki conference ).

Would he make a good president or wouldn't he make a good president?

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And now a fresh flip-flop from Spanky: all of a sudden there's no rush to finalise nuclear disarmament in North Korea. Trump had previously repeatedly stated that denuclearisation should commence "without delay", but after months of absolutely nothing happening, he now says that there is "no time limit... no speed limit" and any negotiations will be "probably a longer process than anybody would like".

So now that Kim has said "no, go away" when Spanky told him to hand over his weapons, Trump has found himself painted into a corner. It must be a familiar situation for him by now.

Trump looking petulant is starting to look very familiar, too.
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Ahh but we know history is not your strong point (Rosa Parks anyone?) if it was you would realise that "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it". The descent into totalitarianism is a gradual creep. Are you saying you don't see any parallels? none? Spanky is following the dictator handbook to the letter, the only question is whether the US is strong enough to resist.

Imagine Spanky came to power in somewhere with less checks and balances than the US, imagine he took over from Kim Jong Un, do you think he would instigate programs of reform, or revel in military parades and continue the human rights abuses?

Your argument is an understandable one, 'we're not Nazi Germany' but no one is, until they are.
What exactly are the parallels between Trump and dictators of the past? With Putin and Erdogan, there's a link to be seen however with Trump it's tenuous at best. Shouting "Fake News" at a press which has been out to get you from day 1 is far different to locking up journalists or having them assassinated.
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There we go, those who constantly seem to bring the race into the debate are....left or right?

Those who constantly stoop down to insults are...left or right?
It's really funny to see amogles complain about sweeping generalisations (only the other's of course, his own "the lefti" is always justified) and simultaneously thank this post.

The double standards couldn't be more obvious.

But folks, do keep the fingerpointing going, it's quite entertaining to watch.
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What exactly are the parallels between Trump and dictators of the past? With Putin and Erdogan, there's a link to be seen however with Trump it's tenuous at best. Shouting "Fake News" at a press which has been out to get you from day 1 is far different to locking up journalists or having them assassinated.
Well calling out legitimate and long standing news sources as liars. Denouncing his own intelligence agencies in relation to investigations on himself. Colluding with a dictator *ahem* and enemy of the Nation he is the in charge of in meddling with the democratic process. Pushing an agenda that is not about inclusivity of the American people and all those that live there. Having counsel from members of the “alt right”. Dismantling the social system. I could continue but you get the point. You are right he is not a fascist, but he is employing the tactics that have been used by fascism.
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Trump's latest lie:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rmany-he-wasnt

He also seems to think they were born in the European Union, despite them being born in 1905 and 1912.

I'm sure he'll turn it around in his next conference by saying I meant "wasn't born in the EU".
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Trump's latest lie:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rmany-he-wasnt

He also seems to think they were born in the European Union, despite them being born in 1905 and 1912.

I'm sure he'll turn it around in his next conference by saying I meant "wasn't born in the EU".
And apparently, if that photograph is to be believed, his dad was Enoch Powell!
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And apparently, if that photograph is to be believed, his dad was Enoch Powell!
Rubbish. That's Jimmy Greaves.
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And apparently, if that photograph is to be believed, his dad was Enoch Powell!
My dad, from Germany, told me they have actual rivers of blood in the EU. Blood coming out of their wherever.
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