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OK - This one has really been bugging me, as once again, the MSM is making a story out of nothing. IN FACT, if an adult goes into a grocery store and buys cigarettes/alcohol/adult products, he/she will be asked for ID to prove they are old enough... regardless of HOW old in many cases (store policy, i think). Until recently (with Chip and Pin technology), if you wanted to use a credit card you had to present a valid ID.

As I usually have a bottle of wine on my list and often pay with credit/debit cards, I would say that it is safe to say that one needs a photo ID to go to the grocery store. Of course, it is not always the case... but hey, there is a STORY HERE!.

WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? Personally, I think the idea is ludicrous to not have to prove that you are who you say you are in order to vote. This is the 21st century, no?


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President Trump on Tuesday made the false claim that a photo ID is required to buy groceries as part of his argument for introducing stricter voter ID laws.

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I guess it is a very long time since he graced 7-11 with his presence.

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OK - This one has really been bugging me, as once again, the MSM is making a story out of nothing. IN FACT, if an adult goes into a grocery store and buys cigarettes/alcohol/adult products, he/she will be asked for ID to prove they are old enough... regardless of HOW old in many cases (store policy, i think). Until recently (with Chip and Pin technology), if you wanted to use a credit card you had to present a valid ID.

As I usually have a bottle of wine on my list and often pay with credit/debit cards, I would say that it is safe to say that one needs a photo ID to go to the grocery store. Of course, it is not always the case... but hey, there is a STORY HERE!.

WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? Personally, I think the idea is ludicrous to not have to prove that you are who you say you are in order to vote. This is the 21st century, no?
"WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? " Not easy to answer.
You do not need an id to postal vote but there is the one time formal process for registration to vote.
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WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? Personally, I think the idea is ludicrous to not have to prove that you are who you say you are in order to vote. This is the 21st century, no?
Yes, you can vote in Switzerland w/o a photo ID. If there is a vote/election you they send you a voter ID (Stimmrechtsausweis) plus all the voting forms (!) before hand by mail. Simplest way to vote is to sign the ID, fill in your JA, NEIN or names on the voting form, but them in an envelope, but envelope and signed voting ID in another envelope and send it back. Done.
Also no need to show a photo ID at the polling place.

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You do not need an id to postal vote but there is the one time formal process for registration to vote.
It is called: Register your main residency at your local communes office. Added perk is that you have to pay taxes, and sign up for health insurance.
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OK - This one has really been bugging me, as once again, the MSM is making a story out of nothing. IN FACT, if an adult goes into a grocery store and buys cigarettes/alcohol/adult products, he/she will be asked for ID to prove they are old enough... regardless of HOW old in many cases (store policy, i think). Until recently (with Chip and Pin technology), if you wanted to use a credit card you had to present a valid ID.

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As I usually have a bottle of wine on my list and often pay with credit/debit cards, I would say that it is safe to say that one needs a photo ID to go to the grocery store. Of course, it is not always the case... but hey, there is a STORY HERE!.
The remark was about buying groceries. Your explanation sounds like a double-negative explanation of Trump.

WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? Personally, I think the idea is ludicrous to not have to prove that you are who you say you are in order to vote. This is the 21st century, no?
Absolutely! Not once did I show an ID when voting. They don't even check if I'm the one mentioned on the paper I bring in.

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"WRT presenting an ID to vote, can one vote in CH without ID? " Not easy to answer.
You do not need an id to postal vote but there is the one time formal process for registration to vote.
Not even that (might be for "newly made Swiss" I don't know but I doubt it very much. That's what the registering when moving is all about. If you're Swiss, you'll get the papers.
And not everybody votes by mail. (I often don't if I made up my mind too late). Never an ID.
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It is called: Register your main residency at your local communes office. Added perk is that you have to pay taxes, and sign up for health insurance.
I thought it was the other way around, voting was the added perk.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Fair enough. I remember that when I lived in Zurich, the gov't knew an awful lot about me, but it still seems to me that if I were allowed to vote, if I did it manually somewhere, I would have to show some form of ID. In all seriousness, how would they know it is you and what would happen if someone DID try to misrepresent who they are?

In the US, there is even less control over voter rolls, which are the lists of people eligible to vote in a certain town/county/state. As there have been numerous instances of DEAD PEOPLE, not only on the voter rolls, but shown as having voted(!), I think the US has a problem that needs to be solved.

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Absolutely! Not once did I show an ID when voting. They don't even check if I'm the one mentioned on the paper I bring in.


Not even that (might be for "newly made Swiss" I don't know but I doubt it very much. That's what the registering when moving is all about. If you're Swiss, you'll get the papers.
And not everybody votes by mail. (I often don't if I made up my mind too late). Never an ID.
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In the US, there is even less control over voter rolls, which are the lists of people eligible to vote in a certain town/county/state. As there have been numerous instances of DEAD PEOPLE, not only on the voter rolls, but shown as having voted(!), I think the US has a problem that needs to be solved.
It is a problem when you have no people register and the best form of ID you come up with is a driving license. But it that small toll you pay for being the land of the free and no drinking beer in public places country.
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there is the one time formal process for registration to vote.
There is no voter registation here.

You turn 18 (or become Swiss), and they start sending you voting material.

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Not sure what your point is and if you are just US bashing, then not really interested.

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Not sure what your point is and if you are just US bashing, then not really interested.
I donít think itís US bashing to suggest that the US has poor to mediocre ways of identifying its citizens.....and the only consistent thing across states might be driverís licenses but not even all of them satisfy requirements for air travel, as an example. Moreover, elderly and very poor citizens are less likely to have driverís licenses and a driverís license does not identify someone as a citizen.
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And your statement I agree with. But I still don't understand what SwissInTheUs was trying to say...

20-30 yrs ago, I was fundamentally against a national ID card, as there appeared to be an agenda behind it. Today, I think there needs to be a better way to identify citizens, whether for voting, travel or many other daily tasks. There is an issue of Fed vs State, but with a technology solution, maybe each state could agree on something or at least choose to opt-in to a system that is Federally approved. CH seems to manage and maybe the US could take a lesson.



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And your statement I agree with. But I still don't understand what SwissInTheUs was trying to say...

20-30 yrs ago, I was fundamentally against a national ID card, as there appeared to be an agenda behind it. Today, I think there needs to be a better way to identify citizens, whether for voting, travel or many other daily tasks. There is an issue of Fed vs State, but with a technology solution, maybe each state could agree on something or at least choose to opt-in to a system that is Federally approved. CH seems to manage and maybe the US could take a lesson.
There is no mandated ID in Switzerland.

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Maybe not a mandated id, but isnít everyone registered with their Gemeinde or Heimatort? This is completely different from the US.
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Yep, Switzerland knows it's burghers In fact, every community does know it's own as we have a Swiss and a cantonal citizenship. (I even got two cantonal ones which is unusual for a female but my father was thorough, LOL).

What Tom meant was: A Swiss is not obligated to have a passport or even an ID-card. Only if they want to leave the country (or rather, enter an other one).
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Yep, Switzerland knows it's burghers In fact, every community does know it's own as we have a Swiss and a cantonal citizenship. (I even got two cantonal ones which is unusual for a female but my father was thorough, LOL).

What Tom meant was: A Swiss is not obligated to have a pasport or even an ID-card. Only if they want to leave the country (or rather, enter an other one).
Yes, thatís exactly what I understood.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Getting very convoluted

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They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. She correctly said no. It is the FAKE NEWS, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people!

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So it is not the media who is the enemy of the people just a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people

How large a percentage? 90%? 99%?

This tweet makes no sense?

If Trump keeps using the phrase "enemy of the people" then some poor innocent people will get hurt.
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Fair enough. I remember that when I lived in Zurich, the gov't knew an awful lot about me, but it still seems to me that if I were allowed to vote, if I did it manually somewhere, I would have to show some form of ID. In all seriousness, how would they know it is you and what would happen if someone DID try to misrepresent who they are?

In the US, there is even less control over voter rolls, which are the lists of people eligible to vote in a certain town/county/state. As there have been numerous instances of DEAD PEOPLE, not only on the voter rolls, but shown as having voted(!), I think the US has a problem that needs to be solved.

Topic for a separate thread!
And all those dead people voted GOP
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Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault-Newman said President Trump's mental decline "could not be denied".

"While watching the [Lester Holt] interview I realized that something real and serious was going on in Donald's brain," she writes in "Unhinged: An Insider's Account of the Trump White House," which is set to be released on Aug. 14.
Another "tell all" book about Trump; this time by a former strong supporter. In total, three new books being released this month; one pro-Trump and two anti.

In this post truth world you can buy whatever sort of book best matches your beliefs.

Meanwhile today, Baltimore City filed suit against the Trump administration for intentionally and unlawfully sabotaging the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

President Trump has been systematically attacking the health law, causing the cost of health coverage and the number of uninsured Americans to increase.
He is violating his constitutional duty to ďtake care that the laws be faithfully executed.Ē

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