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Old 04.08.2018, 16:23
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Lebron James was just interviewed by the dumbest man on television, Don Lemon. He made Lebron look smart, which isn’t easy to do.
I like Mike!
And for those concerned about Omarosa's claim Trump is declining mentally; who the F is Mike?
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Sounds like @FLOTUS had the remote last night. 📺 We hope you both saw the incredible work of @KingJames. #BeBest
This referencing last month a report said that the president lashed out at his aides after seeing his wife’s television tuned to CNN on Air Force One.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well known about Chicago's history going back decades. Google is your friend.

PS - I cite Chicago's history not as an argument for Trump/Hillary getting votes from dead people, rather, as a statement in support of some type of National ID and requiring it for voting, among other things.

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You can see his source material here

What is your source for claiming "numerous instances of DEAD PEOPLE, not only on the voter rolls, but shown as having voted"?
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Old 04.08.2018, 17:52
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And for those concerned about Omarosa's claim Trump is declining mentally; who the F is Mike?
Mr. Let-me-nibble-on-your-ear Tyson?
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Old 04.08.2018, 17:53
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"Mike" is Michael Jordan, and context is Trump's back and forth about LeBron James.

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Old 04.08.2018, 21:18
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Well known about Chicago's history going back decades. Google is your friend.

PS - I cite Chicago's history not as an argument for Trump/Hillary getting votes from dead people, rather, as a statement in support of some type of National ID and requiring it for voting, among other things.
So well known that Trump's voter commission failed to find it

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Old 04.08.2018, 21:22
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I like Mike!
First lady Melania Trump voiced support for LeBron James on Saturday after President Trump went after the NBA star on Twitter, questioning his intelligence.

A spokeswoman for the first lady said in a statement that James is "working to do good things" with his new school for at-risk children in his hometown of Akron, Ohio.

“It looks like LeBron James is working to do good things on behalf of our next generation and just as she always has, the First Lady encourages everyone to have an open dialogue about issues facing children today," first lady spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham told the Associated Press.

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Old 04.08.2018, 21:32
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"Mike" is Michael Jordan, and context is Trump's back and forth about LeBron James.
Michael Jordan voices support for LeBron after Trump insult

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"I support L.J.," Jordan told NBC News through a spokesperson. "He's doing an amazing job for his community."
Trump's attempts at dividing communities are starting to fail.
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First lady Melania Trump voiced support for LeBron James on Saturday after President Trump went after the NBA star on Twitter, questioning his intelligence.

A spokeswoman for the first lady said in a statement that James is "working to do good things" with his new school for at-risk children in his hometown of Akron, Ohio.

“It looks like LeBron James is working to do good things on behalf of our next generation and just as she always has, the First Lady encourages everyone to have an open dialogue about issues facing children today," first lady spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham told the Associated Press.

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Happy families!
Good on her!
This FLOTUS shows backbone, chapeau!

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Michael Jordan voices support for LeBron after Trump insult

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Trump's attempts at dividing communities are starting to fail.
Good on him!

This is the only way to go: Do not argue with babblers. Just speak up, speak your mind on the subject without even referring to the babbler.

PS: re. "happy families", marton, do you always agree with your wife? Yeah? Really?

edit 2: I added the PS after you thanked, you can take it back, marton, if you want, no problem

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Dude... are you deliberately obtuse? I said I wasn't citing Chicago wrt Trump/Hillary. There is such a long effin history of the Chicago political machine and I don't give a flying f**k if you don't want to educate yourself. Seriously... I don't know why I even bother...

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So well known that Trump's voter commission failed to find it

Try harder!
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Old 05.08.2018, 01:44
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Dude... are you deliberately obtuse? I said I wasn't citing Chicago wrt Trump/Hillary. There is such a long effin history of the Chicago political machine and I don't give a flying f**k if you don't want to educate yourself. Seriously... I don't know why I even bother...
You do not provide any source for your claims of voting fraud.
Then you abuse me because I do not do the google searches that you yourself ought to do to support your own flimsy claims.

Why should I try "to educate myself" simply because you cannot be bothered to substantiate your own claims?
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Old 05.08.2018, 01:47
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You do not argue in good faith, Marton. You're being called out on it on an almost daily basis at the moment. All you're interested in is petty point-scoring and it's getting really boring.

Even I've heard of Chicago's long history of voting fraud, and my interest in American politics is practically nil.

Educate yourself, Marton.
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Good on her!
This FLOTUS shows backbone, chapeau!


Good on him!

This is the only way to go: Do not argue with babblers. Just speak up, speak your mind on the subject without even referring to the babbler.

PS: re. "happy families", marton, do you always agree with your wife? Yeah? Really?

edit 2: I added the PS after you thanked, you can take it back, marton, if you want, no problem
No, I do not always agree with my wife.

In such cases she tells me to my face, she does not try to publicly embarrass me; at least not yet

Maybe I should invite her to join EF.
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Old 05.08.2018, 02:43
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You do not argue in good faith, Marton. You're being called out on it on an almost daily basis at the moment. All you're interested in is petty point-scoring and it's getting really boring.

Even I've heard of Chicago's long history of voting fraud, and my interest in American politics is practically nil.

Educate yourself, Marton.
Super, then you can educate me about Chicago?
Or are you bluffing?

Anyway you posted long ago you had put me on ignore? Or did you really?
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Something simple is to go to snopes.com and scan through the “election fraud” entries. All 16 pages.

Here are some sources, but they are long reads. Maybe you have the patience, maybe not. Some US news stories are not accessible from Europe, so I’ve omitted those.

Here’s a long read about sources of voter fraud in Chicago. It is pretty well known in the US. Although, Chicago’s not alone in this. Generally speaking, there are discrepancies between eligible and registered voters.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/14/ele..._is_legendary/

The 1960 election of jfk is somewhat famous for this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...election,_1960



For the most recent election, dead people voting would appear to have not been an issue.
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I thought Trump was referencing Mike Tyson. No matter.


What I find disturbing is when Trump calls the press “enemy of the people”.

Sure, main stream media has its faults, it is way too corporate, profit driven, entertainment focused. The 24 hour news cycle discourages thought and analysis.

But there are still lots of ethical journalists trying to inform their publics.

Now I’m sure some of you will take issue with this. But, it struck a chord with me.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/04/63546...-menacing-move

The last part, especially

If the president had called reporters nosy, cranky, contentious, or smart-alecky, many reporters would have laughed and agreed. But calling them — us — enemies of the people is the kind of curse made by tyrants.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Those journalists who want to ethically and correctly inform public can't do it via mainstream media. To expect it is naieve. Very few achieve that. Trump was right. I really do not want this to be the truth. But the sooner we own up to ourselves that our illusion of honest media is just a dream, the better. I honestly wish it was somebody else who'd point it out, but who cares.
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I simply think a politician shouldn't call anybody names.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I agree.

I think most voters don't care.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Something simple is to go to snopes.com and scan through the “election fraud” entries. All 16 pages.

Here are some sources, but they are long reads. Maybe you have the patience, maybe not. Some US news stories are not accessible from Europe, so I’ve omitted those.

Here’s a long read about sources of voter fraud in Chicago. It is pretty well known in the US. Although, Chicago’s not alone in this. Generally speaking, there are discrepancies between eligible and registered voters.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/14/ele..._is_legendary/

The 1960 election of jfk is somewhat famous for this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...election,_1960

For the most recent election, dead people voting would appear to have not been an issue.
Thank you very much for this information and effort which was over and beyond the call of duty

“election fraud” entries. All 16 pages". These entries were not all about the US!
There were no confirmed cases of votes by dead people, one was classed as "mixed" where it was claimed dead people were registered but it is not clear that they voted.

This boring sub topic started in post 14867 where fduvall claimed "the US has a problem that needs to be solved" due to "numerous instances of DEAD PEOPLE shown as having voted".

As you correctly state, dead people voting is not a current problem and there is nothing in snopes about "numerous instances".
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