"The Hill"? It is really pet peeve of mine the Swiss news outlets are íng unable to quote and cite sources properly, if they ever do. It really drives me nuts. Click on the link and you get:

"By Liz Peek, opinion contributor — 08/09/18 11:30 AM EDT
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill
[...]
Liz Peek is a former partner of major bracket Wall Street firm Wertheim & Company. For 15 years, she has been a columnist for The Fiscal Times, Fox News, the New York Sun and numerous other organizations."

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Has this ever been linked in here? After all, "The Hill" is EF's house gazette

And people who have their own opinion - or mainly a different one - should shut up? Interesting.
After all, the Hill published her article. And we have been fed 'the Hill' for months now (as I mentioned two times before already).

trump was never going to be a great president, he is a national disgrace and a shame to our nation.

Trump supporting white supremacists again

Latest to be banned by Facebook was Alex Jones and his Infowars media business who spread conspiracy theories like the left-wing faking of the Sandy Hook massacre where 26 children and adults were killed at the elementary school in Connecticut.

Now also banned for a week by Twitter due to a link to a video calling for supporters to get their “battle rifles” ready against media and others.

I assume Trump is concerned about being banned himself as he has crossed a number of Twitter red lines

I don't think that would ever happen as it would be bad for Twitter's business.

I agree with you but nevertheless it is a big worry for Trump

Trump admitting collusion with China

No, but there is a difference between an column vs. an editorial. One is the personal opinion of the writer sometimes even in contrast with the newspapers general orientation whereas the later is actually the position and opinion of the newspaper. If somebody writes "<Newspaper name>" as a source I do not expect a column and personal opinion piece, I would at least expect something from the regular staff.

Call me a dreamer but a newspaper should not have a - recognizable - opinion. It should be reporting what happened where and when and then all these analyses of those events by different people with different views and different background information. And even opinions.

Now we're at the point when "the Hill" publishes an opinion people are not used to from it/don't expect from it/don't want from it, they say "yeah, well it was in 'the Hill' but just a column".

Why bother reading a newspaper at all if all I'm after is what I already know, what fits my present opinion and not what's happening or what people in general think has happened?


By the way: "Letzeres" is the latter (not the later). I don't want to be annoying but you do this a lot so I thought you might be interested. If not, just ignore this.

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@curley

It is important to understand the difference between news and opinions.

Newspapers print news and it is the role of journalists to write objective news.

Then newspapers print editorials which reflect the views of the editorial board so you have left leaning like CNN and right leaning like the Wall Street Journal, or in Switzerland Tagesanzeiger and Basler Zeitung.

Finally newspapers print opinions which reflect the views of the author and these may or may not reflect the views of the editorial board.

It will never happen that a newspaper does not have a recognizable opinion since they aim at a target audience to differentiate themselves from competitors.

So long as the news articles are objective and the editorials and opinions are clearly labelled then I do not see your problem?

But that is exactly what it is. A column by a columnist is a bit like a letter to the editor, but a bit more fancy. Unlike a normal article which goes through the editors, a column written by a columnist normally does not. A columnist is also often not a member of the regular staff. Columns and opinion pieces also do not have the same high standard regarding objectivity as regular articles do, they are just the personal, subjective opinion of the writers.

Again to what Martin Suter (https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-suter-722a007/de ) has written in 20 minuten
Have you read the opinion piece by Liz Peek? http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4...-trumps-impact
"Widerlegt" alone is a pretty big word for what is presented by Peek in evidence and analysis. It is not much better than you [Larry Summers] are wrong and a liberal unable to comprehend. O.k. if this is Suters opinion, but in my view that makes him a complete fool and does not help his case. Also, I would not be so upset if he had written "Liz Peek wiederlegt in einem Beitrag welcher in «The Hill» erschien die Behauptung von Obamas Wirtschaftsberater Larry Summers, der Boom gehe auf Trumps Vorgänger zurück. "

If you think opinion pieces can be attributed to the newspaper they are published in you may like:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/o...clearance.html

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This: << If somebody writes "<Newspaper name>" as a source I do not expect a column and personal opinion piece, I would at least expect something from the regular staff>>
The newspaper printed it. Good on it. Specially if it does not reflect "the newspaper's" opinion. That's what I call a good newspaper.

When I open a newspaper, I expect the unexpected to get my own brain-cells going.

Yep, this was incorrect:
Quote: «The Hill» widerlegt die Behauptung von Obamas Wirtschaftsberater Larry Summers, der Boom gehe auf Trumps Vorgänger zurück.>>
The person's opinion doesn not make them a fool though, just a person with a different opinion. And a sloppy one in this specific case as it should have said "in the Hill, Liz Peek wrote ...."

All in all I seem to have missunderstood what you, aSitUS, protested. I did not ascribe it to that specific sentence.

Does that make me a "complete fool" too now?

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the problem is just that human beings are not objective. on top of that, you get the subjective decision on what is front page news and what is page 34 news.

a column is in fact much more honest: an opinion presented as an opinion.

No you are not. From whom did I learn the latter/later issue?
But it is still my opinion that Suter is a fool.

If you want to read the type of news you like to read on the front page then you would choose to read the newspaper that most matches your views?
I mean if you were a capitalist you would not read the Morning Star?

Source

Now that should worry Trump, McGahn must know a lot of intimate details?

Indeed it would but I have a fantasy of Jeff Bezos buying Twitter and closing Spanky's account, lets face it, he can afford it.

But the he would just move on to another social network. Let's face it, no matter how crazy some of the tweets might be, many people are interested in it as it's the US president's opinion and therefore news.

Trump does not need to move! He also has Facebook, Instagram and Reddit accounts!

Meanwhile

Fox News’s senior political analyst Brit Hume brushed off President Trump’s most recent Twitter attack against special counsel Robert Mueller, in which the president compared Mueller to Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

“This is ridiculous,” Brit Hume tweeted Sunday

Trump's constant barrage of divisive attacks, insults and lies is getting boring.

According to the Washington Post Trump averaged 16 lies per day in June and July.

Source (might be behind a paywall.

Michael Hayden, a former director of the CIA and National Security Agency, was asked about Trump's comparison of Mueller to McCarthy on CNN's "State of the Union."
"So, Joe McCarthy was a demagogue. And we haven't heard a public syllable from Bob Mueller in more than a year," Hayden said. "And I have got to add that McCarthy's lawyer, Roy Cohn, became Donald Trump's personal lawyer -- lawyer and mentor for decades. I mean, the irony here is just amazing.