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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Trump administration recently announced a new policy on air pollution. His EPA has estimated this will result in thousands of premature deaths over the next decade:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/c...on-deaths.html
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the Trump E.P.A. predicts its plan will see between 470 and 1,400 premature deaths annually by 2030 because of increased rates of microscopic airborne particulates known as PM 2.5, which are dangerous because of their link to heart and lung disease as well as their ability to trigger chronic problems like asthma and bronchitis.

By contrast, the Obama administration’s central argument for its Clean Power Plan was that the measure protected human health as well as the climate. Specifically, it said, the plan would help avoid between 1,500 and 3,600 premature deaths annually by 2030.

The Clean Power Plan aimed to curb planet-warming greenhouse gases by steering the energy sector away from coal and toward cleaner energy sources like wind and solar. According to its calculations, the decreased coal burning also would reduce other pollutants like sulfur dioxide, which poses respiratory risk, and nitrogen oxides that create ozone, which, in the form of smog, can damage lung tissue.

Mr. Obama’s E.P.A. also estimated that, by 2030, the Clean Power Plan would result in 180,000 fewer missed school days per year by children because of ozone-related illnesses. Asthma instances would also drop significantly, according to the analysis.

By contrast, the Trump administration analysis finds that own its plan would see 48,000 new cases of exacerbated asthma and at least 21,000 new missed days of school annually by 2030 because those pollutants would increase in the atmosphere rather than decrease.
The EPA's mission statement:
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The Trump administration is using the EPA for its antithesis.
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The Trump administration recently announced a new policy on air pollution. His EPA has estimated this will result in thousands of premature deaths over the next decade:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/c...on-deaths.html


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The Trump administration is using the EPA for its antithesis.
They are also preparing a plan to roll back car efficiency regulations which are about reducing emissions and improving fuel economy.

How this will help Trump's ideas to export more autos is unclear especially if the autos do not meet any new standards in the target countries.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Bizarre statement from Trump here. What's the relevance to... anything? The United States has no official language.



For those who scream a knee-jerk "FAKE NEWS" reaction whenever they see a CNN story about Trump, FOX News aired virtually the same piece, with almost exactly the same title.

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They are also preparing a plan to roll back car efficiency regulations which are about reducing emissions and improving fuel economy.
Along this vein. On the last day of Scott Pruitt's EPA, before he resigned in scandal, he introduced a loophole for super polluting freight trucks that produce 55 times more air pollution than modern emission controlled trucks.

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WASHINGTON — In the final hours of Scott Pruitt’s tenure as administrator, the Environmental Protection Agency moved on Friday to effectively grant a loophole that will allow a major increase in the manufacturing of a diesel freight truck that produces as much as 55 times the air pollution as trucks that have modern emissions controls.

The move by the E.P.A. came after intense lobbying by a small set of manufacturers that sell glider trucks, which use old engines built before new technologies significantly reduced emissions of particulates and nitrogen oxide that are blamed for asthma, lung cancer and other ailments.

It was just as strongly opposed by an unusual alliance of public health groups like the American Lung Association, environmental groups like the Environmental Defense Fund and major industry players like United Parcel Service, the largest truck fleet owner, and Volvo Group, one of the largest truck manufacturers.

The shift in agency policy came quietly late Friday, the last day of work for Mr. Pruitt, who resigned after several ethics scandals. But agency officials confirmed to The New York Times that, through the end of 2019, the E.P.A. will not enforce an annual cap of 300 gliders per manufacturer that had been imposed in January.

The glider truck concept began so the engines of relatively new trucks that had been involved in accidents could be transferred to new truck bodies. But as the emissions control requirements went into effect in recent years, companies like Fitzgerald Glider Kits of Crossville, Tenn., began to attract thousands of buyers from around the United States — including many small fleet owners — that wanted to evade the new rules, getting trucks they argued were cheaper to run.
The Fitzgerald company, which reaped most of the benefit from this policy, got to Pruitt through large donations to Republican politicians.

To lay the consequences bare: (from the link above)
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The E.P.A. estimates that over the life of every 10,000 trucks without modern emissions systems, up to 1,600 Americans would die prematurely, and thousands more would suffer a variety of ailments including bronchitis and heart attacks, particularly in cities with air pollution associated with diesel-powered trains, ships and power plants.
It's gross disregard for human and environmental health combined with corporatism.

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Bizarre statement from Trump here. What's the relevance to... anything? The United States has no official language.
Well, as the president doesn't speak perfect English, it's probably so admirable to him that he wanted to mention it.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Michael Cohen takes a plea deal,

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Michael Avenatti posts
"@RudyGiuliani Buckle Up Buttercup. You and your client completely misplayed this..."

And also

"The developments of today will permit us to have the stay lifted in the civil case & should also permit us to proceed with an expedited deposition of Trump under oath about what he knew, when he knew it, and what he did about it. We will disclose it all to the public."

is there enough popcorn in the world???
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is there enough popcorn in the world???
I can understand a plea deal if your facing 20yrs in a foreign jail if things go tits up, but in your home country...??? Hmmm...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

On a related subject, Paul Manafort has been found guilty on the tax fraud charges. The jury couldn't agree on the remaining ten charges, on which the judge declared a mistrial.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

... and now we're getting details of the eight charges to which Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty, including one where he has directly implicated Trump in an illegal activity.

The noose is tightening rapidly.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It's these words... "admits campaign violation"..."at the direction of the candidate". Even if you often suspected you would hear them, it's still shocking when you do. The sheer audacity of the man.

Ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen admits campaign violation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up!
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It's these words... "admits campaign violation"..."at the direction of the candidate". Even if you often suspected you would hear them, it's still shocking when you do. The sheer audacity of the man.

Ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen admits campaign violation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546
So what!! All the politicians do it. Big deal about NOTHING. It was not campaign funds so whats the big deal???
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Old 22.08.2018, 08:36
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Big day in Trump land yesterday which I missed as my internet provider had a major tech problem that blacked out several sq. Kms, mobile service was also non existent!

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I can understand a plea deal if your facing 20yrs in a foreign jail if things go tits up, but in your home country...??? Hmmm...
Did you ever see a film based in a US prison?
Who wants Bubba waiting in your cell.

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It's these words... "admits campaign violation"..."at the direction of the candidate". Even if you often suspected you would hear them, it's still shocking when you do. The sheer audacity of the man.

Ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen admits campaign violation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546
Depends whether the campaign violation is classed as a civil offense (Obama's campaign was fined $375,000 in 2008 for a $1.8 Million violation!) or a criminal offense with a max 5 year sentence.
Presidential immunity does not apply to offences committed before inauguration!

In case Trump tries to claim Cohen had no connection to his campaign, Omarosa has released a video of Cohen boarding a Trump plane in 2016 which she claims confirms his involvement.

Did you notice Cohen confirmed payments to two women! The other one is presumably former Playboy model Karen McDougal.

Wonder if Manafort has information which would be worth special counsel Mueller doing a plea deal on?

Meanwhile Wyoming state Treasurer Mark Gordon secured the Republican nomination on Tuesday in the race for State Governor, beating Trump-endorsed rival Foster Friess in a disappointment for Trump.
Wyoming gave Trump his largest margin in the country in the 2016 presidential election so surprising his endorsement failed.
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So what!! All the politicians do it. Big deal about NOTHING. It was not campaign funds so whats the big deal???
Wrong! Legally they are campaign funds!
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Big day in Trump land yesterday which I missed as my internet provider had a major tech problem that blacked out several sq. Kms, mobile service was also non existent!



Did you ever see a film based in a US prison?
Who wants Bubba waiting in your cell.



Depends whether the campaign violation is classed as a civil offense (Obama's campaign was fined $375,000 in 2008 for a $1.8 Million violation!) or a criminal offense with a max 5 year sentence.
Presidential immunity does not apply to offences committed before inauguration!

In case Trump tries to claim Cohen had no connection to his campaign, Omarosa has released a video of Cohen boarding a Trump plane in 2016 which she claims confirms his involvement.

Did you notice Cohen confirmed payments to two women! The other one is presumably former Playboy model Karen McDougal.

Wonder if Manafort has information which would be worth special counsel Mueller doing a plea deal on?

Meanwhile Wyoming state Treasurer Mark Gordon secured the Republican nomination on Tuesday in the race for State Governor, beating Trump-endorsed rival Foster Friess in a disappointment for Trump.
Wyoming gave Trump his largest margin in the country in the 2016 presidential election so surprising his endorsement failed.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So much news today, nearly missed this one!

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Christopher Steele wins libel case over Trump campaign dossier

Christopher Steele and his company Orbis produced a dossier with claims about Donald Trump and his activities in Russia

Steele exonerated by a US court for producing the dossier.

Christopher Steele and his intelligence firm, Orbis, were sued by three Russian oligarchs - Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven and German Khan – for libel, after they were named in the dossier.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...47043992023040


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Trump should pardon Manafort for the Lols.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In today's odd world, the two US Congressman who were the first to support Trump's campaign have both been indicted this month

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What was the old saying about "birds of a feather...."
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