Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President?
Yes 93 26.50%
No 258 73.50%
Voters: 351. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #15481  
Old 04.09.2018, 15:55
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,567
Groaned at 70 Times in 49 Posts
Thanked 3,719 Times in 2,026 Posts
rainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Seems a bit harsh on Reagan, not that I'm in the habit of defending him but his policies brought an end to the USSR leaving the US as the only superpower at the time. I can't reconcile that with Spanky swanning in unprepared, pressing some dictator flesh, saluting a couple of men in uniform and declaring 'peace in our time'

And who did Reagan win against? Carter, the competent but perceived unlucky file muncher.
The Reagan camp also very likely conspired with the Iranian government to trade certain frozen Shah assets against the embassy hostages (they were released on Inauguration day, IIRC).

Quote:
View Post
I didn't think the GOP let him run, I thought they were as horrified as everyone else at the prospect, but unable to stop it, no?

They thought he could engage a lot of voters (for Jeb).
Worked brilliantly.

He was perceived as a useful idiot.

Since certain events in the past, German politics usually shies away from having any kind of useful idiot, perceived or real, to catch some voters.

Because assuming your opponent is an idiot is usually the first but most grave mistake you can make.
  #15482  
Old 04.09.2018, 16:28
22 yards's Avatar
All mod cons
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Basel-Land
Posts: 9,148
Groaned at 290 Times in 229 Posts
Thanked 19,529 Times in 7,690 Posts
22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
Another win for Don McLean...

How did the land of Jefferson, how did the land of King
become the land of hamburgers and raisins that can sing?
Roosevelt was crippled, Lincoln was a geek.
They'd never get elected, their clothes were never chic.
Even more on point:

The candidate is handsome, he's wearin' tailored clothes.
He's following the pollster everywhere he goes.
His teeth have all been straightened, his hair is very full.
His stupidity is hidden by this image-making bull.
The following 4 users would like to thank 22 yards for this useful post:
  #15483  
Old 04.09.2018, 18:18
taduncombe's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Basel
Posts: 73
Groaned at 11 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 272 Times in 108 Posts
taduncombe has earned the respect of manytaduncombe has earned the respect of manytaduncombe has earned the respect of many
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Bob Woodward - a famous investigative journalist from Watergate - has a new book on Trump. It's original reporting, mostly via interviews with his numerous contacts throughout Washington (from what I can tell). The Washington Post has an advanced copy they highlight a few of the revelations, they're nuts... from incompetence to malice and everything in-between.

These jumped out at me:
Quote:
Dowd [Trump's lawyer] told Trump: “Don’t testify [to Robert Mueller]. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”
Quote:
After Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad launched a chemical attack on civilians in April 2017, Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator. “Let’s f'ing kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the f'ing lot of them,” Trump said, according to Woodward. Mattis told the president that he would get right on it. But after hanging up the phone, he told a senior aide: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.”
Quote:
At the urging of advisers, [Trump] then condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis [at Charlottesville], but almost immediately told aides, “That was the biggest f'ing mistake I’ve made” and the “worst speech I’ve ever given,” according to Woodward’s account.
Quote:
Trump told Porter that Sessions was a “traitor” for recusing himself from overseeing the Russia investigation, Woodward writes. Mocking Sessions’s accent, Trump added, “This guy is mentally retarded. He’s this dumb Southerner. … He couldn’t even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama.”
Quote:
Cohn, a Wall Street veteran, tried to tamp down Trump’s strident nationalism regarding trade. According to Woodward, Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” that the president was intending to sign to formally withdraw the United States from a trade agreement with South Korea. Cohn later told an associate that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump did not notice that it was missing.
Quote:
[John] Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”
Quote:
Trump questioned why the government was spending resources in the [Korean Peninsula] at all. “We’re doing this in order to prevent World War III,” Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told him. After Trump left the meeting, Woodward recounts, “Mattis was particularly exasperated and alarmed, telling close associates that the president acted like — and had the understanding of — ‘a fifth- or sixth-grader.’
Quote:
“You’re a goddamn staffer!” Bannon screamed at [Ivanka], telling her that she had to work through Priebus like other aides. “You walk around this place and act like you’re in charge, and you’re not. You’re on staff!” Ivanka Trump, who had special access to the president and worked around Priebus, replied: “I’m not a staffer! I’ll never be a staffer. I’m the first daughter.”
The following 7 users would like to thank taduncombe for this useful post:
  #15484  
Old 04.09.2018, 18:41
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,034
Groaned at 446 Times in 384 Posts
Thanked 18,509 Times in 9,808 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Similar article in CNN about the Woodward book!

About the idea that Trump met with Mueller the lawyers had a rehearsal with Trump and after that disaster
Quote:
Then, in an even more remarkable move, Dowd and Trump's current personal attorney Jay Sekulow went to Mueller's office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn't possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.
"He just made something up. That's his nature," Dowd said to Mueller.
The following 3 users would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #15485  
Old 04.09.2018, 18:43
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,103
Groaned at 198 Times in 164 Posts
Thanked 13,670 Times in 7,111 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Basically it is an unholy accommodation!

97% of US Christian Evangelicals say their core value is "it is necessary to follow the teachings of Christ in one’s personal and family life" (Pew Research).
Now 80% of them vote for a twice divorced man who it is claimed regularly had extra marital affairs with models and porn stars......
Could it be you mix up the teaching of Christ with the Old Testament?

Quote:
View Post
Name:  Tumps_funeralofothers.jpg
Views: 289
Size:  15.8 KB
Indeed that was strange. Specially in the case of Aretha Franklin. But then again, turns out the best part of the funeral was packed with people behaving tasteless.
I wonder if she turned in her coffin during this ceremony.
The following 2 users would like to thank curley for this useful post:
  #15486  
Old 04.09.2018, 19:06
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 11,072
Groaned at 240 Times in 203 Posts
Thanked 23,248 Times in 9,883 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post

Since certain events in the past, German politics usually shies away from having any kind of useful idiot, perceived or real, to catch some voters.
I'm not really sure about that. German politics seems to be full of useful idiots. But maybe they get screened thoroughly beforehand to make sure they are genuinely as incompetent as they appear.
This user would like to thank amogles for this useful post:
  #15487  
Old 04.09.2018, 20:18
22 yards's Avatar
All mod cons
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Basel-Land
Posts: 9,148
Groaned at 290 Times in 229 Posts
Thanked 19,529 Times in 7,690 Posts
22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute22 yards has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bob Woodward - a famous investigative journalist from Watergate - has a new book on Trump. It's original reporting, mostly via interviews with his numerous contacts throughout Washington (from what I can tell). The Washington Post has an advanced copy they highlight a few of the revelations, they're nuts... from incompetence to malice and everything in-between.
Bob Woodward is someone I would trust. It'll be interesting to see the Trump apologists try to weasel their way out of this massive crater.
The following 3 users would like to thank 22 yards for this useful post:
  #15488  
Old 04.09.2018, 21:51
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geneva
Posts: 547
Groaned at 63 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 1,160 Times in 657 Posts
Reb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond reputeReb77Br has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bob Woodward - a famous investigative journalist from Watergate - has a new book on Trump. It's original reporting, mostly via interviews with his numerous contacts throughout Washington (from what I can tell). The Washington Post has an advanced copy they highlight a few of the revelations, they're nuts... from incompetence to malice and everything in-between.

These jumped out at me:


“You’re a goddamn staffer!” Bannon screamed at [Ivanka], telling her that she had to work through Priebus like other aides. “You walk around this place and act like you’re in charge, and you’re not. You’re on staff!” Ivanka Trump, who had special access to the president and worked around Priebus, replied: “I’m not a staffer! I’ll never be a staffer. I’m the first daughter.”
Can believe alleged wife-batterer Bannon would have a problem with a powerful woman.
  #15489  
Old 05.09.2018, 00:36
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,874
Groaned at 180 Times in 140 Posts
Thanked 6,137 Times in 3,367 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bob Woodward - a famous investigative journalist from Watergate - has a new book on Trump. It's original reporting, mostly via interviews with his numerous contacts throughout Washington (from what I can tell). The Washington Post has an advanced copy they highlight a few of the revelations, they're nuts... from incompetence to malice and everything in-between.

These jumped out at me:

As of now ! I have my Wife standing in line to buy the book
  #15490  
Old 05.09.2018, 09:21
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bob Woodward is someone I would trust. It'll be interesting to see the Trump apologists try to weasel their way out of this massive crater.
But why didn't he investigate Hillary's emails?
The following 10 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #15491  
Old 05.09.2018, 09:52
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,034
Groaned at 446 Times in 384 Posts
Thanked 18,509 Times in 9,808 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bob Woodward is someone I would trust. It'll be interesting to see the Trump apologists try to weasel their way out of this massive crater.
Seven tweets from Spanky yesterday calling Woodward's fiction including quotes from General (Secretary of Defense) James Mattis and General (Chief of Staff) John Kelly.

Pity in his quote Mattis chose to repeat Trump's fiction that NATO allies have "taken on more of the burden" when nothing has changed; damages the credibility of his whole denial.

From the official minutes of the July 2018 Summit meeting
Quote:
We reaffirm our unwavering commitment to all aspects of the Defence Investment Pledge agreed at the 2014 Wales Summit, and to submit credible national plans on its implementation, including the spending guidelines for 2024
  #15492  
Old 05.09.2018, 09:55
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 396
Groaned at 78 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 1,424 Times in 576 Posts
reids has a reputation beyond reputereids has a reputation beyond reputereids has a reputation beyond reputereids has a reputation beyond reputereids has a reputation beyond reputereids has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
As of now ! I have my Wife standing in line to buy the book
"Unhinged", "Chaotic", "Out of his depth", "Idiot" the same phrases appear again and again in reports from inside the white house.


Isn't it amazing how the fake media manage to get their stories so straight.


unless <gasp> its not fake.........
The following 3 users would like to thank reids for this useful post:
  #15493  
Old 05.09.2018, 10:23
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,289
Groaned at 210 Times in 153 Posts
Thanked 5,874 Times in 2,740 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

In two weeks it will be old (fake) news, the book released in paperback and on Kindle. The 40 odd (in both senses) percent of the US electorate that love him, will continue to love him.

Bring on 9 November and hope that the yanks turn out in high numbers.
  #15494  
Old 05.09.2018, 11:04
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 30,752
Groaned at 2,215 Times in 1,648 Posts
Thanked 36,973 Times in 17,509 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Bring on 9 November and hope that the yanks turn out in high numbers.


Tom
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #15495  
Old 05.09.2018, 14:10
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,034
Groaned at 446 Times in 384 Posts
Thanked 18,509 Times in 9,808 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
Twitter said Tuesday that not even President Donald Trump is immune from being kicked off the platform if his tweets cross a line with abusive behavior.

The social media company's rules against vitriolic tweets offer leeway for world leaders whose statements are newsworthy, but that "is not a blanket exception for the president or anyone else," Twitter legal and policy chief Vijaya Gadde told POLITICO in an interview alongside CEO Jack Dorsey.
Source

LOL!
  #15496  
Old 05.09.2018, 14:51
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Steinach SG
Posts: 8,468
Groaned at 411 Times in 310 Posts
Thanked 11,030 Times in 5,806 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Source

LOL!
Just confirms that they're all against him. Google, Twitter, CNN, the WaPo, they're all the same.
The following 2 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #15497  
Old 05.09.2018, 14:55
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,289
Groaned at 210 Times in 153 Posts
Thanked 5,874 Times in 2,740 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Just confirms that they're all against him. Google, Twitter, CNN, the WaPo, they're all the same.
Don’t forget EF!
The following 5 users would like to thank bowlie for this useful post:
  #15498  
Old 05.09.2018, 16:44
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,034
Groaned at 446 Times in 384 Posts
Thanked 18,509 Times in 9,808 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
Now there is an Internet site claiming that Ivanka Trump turned up at McCain's funeral uninvited, here.

I do not know if Ivanka was invited or not; I do know this is one very weird presidency!

Three more tweets from Donnie today against the Woodward book
  #15499  
Old 05.09.2018, 17:02
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,289
Groaned at 210 Times in 153 Posts
Thanked 5,874 Times in 2,740 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Don't know much about US laws or traditions. Does one need an invitation to a funeral? I believe it is not unusual in this country for people to do so.

Sorry if this is a little morbid, but I am generally curious.
This user would like to thank bowlie for this useful post:
  #15500  
Old 05.09.2018, 17:11
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,874
Groaned at 180 Times in 140 Posts
Thanked 6,137 Times in 3,367 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
In two weeks it will be old (fake) news, the book released in paperback and on Kindle. The 40 odd (in both senses) percent of the US electorate that love him, will continue to love him.

Bring on 9 November and hope that the yanks turn out in high numbers.
What no NASCAR race on the 9th
Closed Thread




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 13 (0 members and 13 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will Hillary Clinton run for president again? PanFastic International affairs/politics 162 06.11.2020 11:15
Poll: Will Trump win the 2020 elections? k_and_e International affairs/politics 14 05.06.2018 22:06
A generic "will my salary be good enough" post Larsh Employment 51 12.12.2017 12:51
Will Trump be the next US President? Phil_MCR International affairs/politics 2618 14.11.2016 11:16
Shall I inform my employer that I will be self employed or be a owner of a company? Broth76 Business & entrepreneur 6 09.07.2012 16:59


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 07:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0