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Old 15.09.2018, 10:07
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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“When Trump visited the island territory last October, OFFICIALS told him in a briefing 16 PEOPLE had died from Maria.” The Washington Post.
This was long AFTER the hurricane took place. Over many months it went to 64 PEOPLE. Then, like magic, “3000 PEOPLE KILLED.”
They hired GWU Research to tell them how many people had died in Puerto Rico (how would they not know this?). This method was never done with previous hurricanes because other jurisdictions know how many people were killed. FIFTY TIMES LAST ORIGINAL NUMBER - NO WAY!
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I’d very much be willing to walk you through the scientific process of the study and how @Gwtweets arrived at the excess mortality number estimate. There is no reason to underscore the tragedy we have suffered in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.
In the meantime, I hope you consider sending a message of support to show you stand with all of the US Citizens in Puerto Rico that lost loved ones. It would certainly be an act of respect and empathy.
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Old 15.09.2018, 10:54
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A very calm, measured response from the PR Governor. It's a pity be misused the word "underscore", though—it's pretty much the exact opposite of what he meant to say. "Understate" or even "dismiss" would have been appropriate.
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Old 15.09.2018, 11:40
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A very calm, measured response from the PR Governor. It's a pity be misused the word "underscore", though—it's pretty much the exact opposite of what he meant to say. "Understate" or even "dismiss" would have been appropriate.
Indeed a good response.

Possibly English is not his first language?
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There is no reason to underscore the tragedy we have suffered in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.
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A very calm, measured response from the PR Governor. It's a pity be misused the word "underscore", though—it's pretty much the exact opposite of what he meant to say. "Understate" or even "dismiss" would have been appropriate.
Perhaps he meant underscore in the sense of exacerbate or add to, i.e. by questioning the figures.
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Old 15.09.2018, 21:52
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Crazy town

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New Mexico solar observatory denies aliens involved in ‘security’ closure.

It is still unclear what led to the evacuation and closure of the facility, which is typically open to the public.
The Washington Post reported that only the director and an assistant have been allowed into the building and even the security guards have reportedly been kept in the dark.

Sunspot Observatory was closed and evacuated Sept. 6 due to an undisclosed security risk.
Officials aren't saying why it was closed and that's led to media coverage and plenty of speculation.
The solar observatory has been shut indefinitely by the FBI over an undisclosed security issue
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Weird business!

Maybe they had a marijuana plantation?
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Old 16.09.2018, 10:16
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When President Obama said that he has been to “57 States,” very little mention in Fake News Media. Can you imagine if I said that...story of the year! @IngrahamAngle
And from George Conway, husband of Kellyanne Conway who is currently serving as Counselor to the President in the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump.

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Needless to say, there’s a huge difference between an isolated slip of the tongue and ceaseless, shameless, and witless prevarication on virtually all topics, large and small.
George Conways was the subject of an interview in The Washington Post last month.

"If there’s an issue, it’s because she’s in that job, for that man," George Conway told The Post in the article. "If my wife were the counselor to the CEO of Pepsi and I had a problem with her boss, I would simply drink my Coke and keep my mouth shut. If the president were simply mediocre or even bad, I’d have nothing to say. This is much different.”
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When President Obama said that he has been to “57 States,” very little mention in Fake News Media. Can you imagine if I said that...story of the year! @IngrahamAngle
Perhaps if Trump could start with learning how to colour in the US flag... Also, he may want to take a little time to examine his lapel pin a bit more closely before he criticises other (smarter) people.

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Dumbest headline ever!

"Lisa Page bombshell: FBI couldn’t prove Trump-Russia collusion before Mueller appointment"

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Of course if the FBI could prove Trump-Russia collusion then there was no reason to appoint Mueller?
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Old 16.09.2018, 17:32
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Not just by the government, but in the non-partisan NEJM too.
The 95% confidence interval for the number of excess deaths ranges from 793 to 8498. That's more than a full order of magnitude between the extremes!

And keep in mind, this is with 95% confidence. That is, statistically speaking, in 1 of 20 cases the excess death toll probably lies outside of that confidence interval.

That's not a result you can put a number on you're fairly safe to be reasonably accurate. In my book the study essentially says "There quite probably were some unnecessary deaths but we can't really assign a meaningful number with confidence."
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Old 16.09.2018, 20:08
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The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never Collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find.
Very unfair and BAD for the country.
ALSO, not allowed under the LAW!
Wonder if he knows about Manafort since he is not mentioned

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Just watched Sunday Morning Futures with @MariaBartiromo on @FoxNews. This show is MANDATORY watching if you want to understand the massive governmental corruption and the Russian Hoax.
It will be rebroadcast this evening at 6:00 P.M. on @FoxBusiness.
A must see!
MANDATORY

Good to know he spends Sunday relaxing before the TV

"massive governmental corruption" Is this a confession?

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Old 16.09.2018, 21:43
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The woman accusing supreme court nominee Kavanaugh of sexual assault in their teenage years has come forward, Christine Ford. Now a Professor at Palo Alto University in Clinical Psychology. Read her story.

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Some important details:
-"Ford took a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent in early August. The results, which Katz provided to The Post, concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate."

-Christine was 15 at the time Kavanaugh and his accomplice were 17-year-old high-school athletes. Christine thought they "might inadvertently kill her" during the assault because they were so forceful. Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth the muffle her calls for help.

-Christine first revealed she had been a victim of physical abuse in 2002, when she married her husband. She did not go into details then.

-Christine described the event in detail in 2012, when prompted in therapy with her husband. The therapist has provided notes on this account. Those notes described the incident but did not include Kavanaugh's name, rather "students from an elitist boys’ school". Outside of therapy in 2012, she did tell her husband Kavanaugh was her assailant and that he may one day end up on the supreme court.

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Horny18 year old tries, badly, to get lucky. Fails

Of course very traumatic to the victim, but does this affect his suitability for the job?

There are lots of other reasons for the senate to look beyond politics on this one, but failed sexual predation by someone not yet old enough to drink?
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Horny18 year old tries, badly, to get lucky. Fails

Of course very traumatic to the victim, but does this affect his suitability for the job?

There are lots of other reasons for the Senate to look beyond politics on this one, but failed sexual predation by someone not yet old enough to drink?
Yes it matters. This isn't a confirmation hearing to manage a McDonalds, it's to sit on the supreme court. Kavanaugh will have a role in determining how sexual assault is treated under the law.

Kavanaugh is accused of forcibly grabbing Christine, trapping her on a bed under his weight, molesting her, covering her mouth when she yelled for help, and may have raped her if she wasn't able to escape and lock herself in a bathroom. This wasn't a come-on, it was a violent sexual assault. If this is true, he has no place on the supreme court regardless if he did this as a minor.

She took and passed a polygraph test. Will he? Otherwise, this is disqualifying.

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Otherwise, this is disqualifying.
While it should be, it won’t. This is the US after all. And Trump is, by his own admission, is much more of a sexual predator.
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Old 17.09.2018, 10:01
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While it should be, it won’t. This is the US after all. And Trump is, by his own admission, is much more of a sexual predator.
Maybe, we'll see. The key difference is this: in 2016 the choice was between Trump and Clinton, who they'd convinced themselves was the devil incarnate. Here, it's between Kavanaugh and another super conservative justice that they could nominate and confirm while they still hold the majority in the Senate.

By doing pulling his nomination, the only thing they lose is some pride and a handful of legislation days. IMO that's a fair trade to keep the known sexual predators on the Supreme Court at one - Clarence Thomas.

Also, there's ~ a 70% chance they'll hold the Senate majority after the midterms as well - in the odd chance their backup nomination also runs into trouble.
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Horny18 year old tries, badly, to get lucky. Fails

Of course very traumatic to the victim, but does this affect his suitability for the job?

There are lots of other reasons for the senate to look beyond politics on this one, but failed sexual predation by someone not yet old enough to drink?
That was my reaction when I first heard of this, assuming it was childish fumblings with no real understanding of the situation but no, as soon as I read he was 17 that defence goes out the window. He knew what was happening and it speaks to the essential character of the man. Had that character significantly changed in the intervening years then I'd expect him to have sought out his victim and appologised.


I was concerned about Kavanaugh before, now I'm scared. Massive kudos to the accuser, this must be a horrible thing for her.
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Lol. Were you also concerned when Bill said he'd smoked marijuana but didn't inhale?
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Lol. Were you also concerned when Bill said he'd smoked marijuana but didn't inhale?
I think most of us are more worried about a rapist making laws about rape, than a president who had a toke once.
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I think most of us are more worried about a rapist making laws about rape, than a president who had a toke once.
30 plus year old allegation. Good luck proving that.
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Lol. Were you also concerned when Bill said he'd smoked marijuana but didn't inhale?
Yeah, because smoking a joint is exactly as bad as trying to force a woman to have sex against her will, right?

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30 plus year old allegation. Good luck proving that.
I believe the church is busily fighting a losing battle with their own decades-old allegations of a similar nature, so I wouldn't think old Kavanagh is sleeping TOO easily at night.
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