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30 plus year old allegation. Good luck proving that.
That was the Cosby defence, wasn't it?
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Lol. Were you also concerned when Bill said he'd smoked marijuana but didn't inhale?
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Yeah, because smoking a joint is exactly as bad as trying to force a woman to have sex against her will, right?

I believe the church is busily fighting a losing battle with their own decades-old allegations of a similar nature, so I wouldn't think old Kavanagh is sleeping TOO easily at night.
Church - systematic mass abuse of children across the globe.
Kavanagh - an ancient allegation over two teenagers which will boil down to one word against another.
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That was the Cosby defence, wasn't it?
Cosby was a serial offender.
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Cosby was a serial offender.
Fair enough, one rape is fine, 2+ too many, I'll keep that in mind.
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Fair enough, one rape is fine, 2+ too many, I'll keep that in mind.
Innocent until proven guilty. You do know how the law works, right?
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Church - systematic mass abuse of children across the globe.
Kavanagh - an ancient allegation over two teenagers which will boil down to one word against another.

Actually it won't because there was "allegedly" a third person (at least) present.

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The incident allegedly happened at a gathering of teenagers at a house, when Mr Kavanaugh and a friend allegedly "corralled" her into a bedroom. Mr Kavanaugh and his friend were both drunk, she says.
Find the witnesses and you have more of a concrete case.
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Six oclock in the morning and Spanky is already on the Tweet machine in his own inimitable style

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“A lot of small & medium size enterprises are registering very good profit, sometimes record profits-there stocks are doing very well, low income workers are getting big raises. There are an awful lot of good things going on that weren’t during Pres. Obama’s Watch.” Peter Morici
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Six oclock in the morning and Spanky is already on the Tweet machine in his own inimitable style



"Their"?
And still obsessed with his predecessor, I see.
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Lol. Were you also concerned when Bill said he'd smoked marijuana but didn't inhale?
Bill got elected by the people for 4 year therm .Kavanaugn ,if , will be appointed for life by the Senat
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Our Steel Industry is the talk of the World. It has been given new life, and is thriving. Billions of Dollars is being spent on new plants all around the country!
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Are trumps border guard . Murder , Kidnaper and Rapists ? legal https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/0...ee_a_23528962/
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Actually it won't because there was "allegedly" a third person (at least) present.



Find the witnesses and you have more of a concrete case.
Third party involved in this alleged event is Mark Judge who denies that this ever occurred. Interesting article sent to me by a friend today who subscribes to the Washington Post which sheds more detail on the accuser and what she says took place. Note that her recollection is murky at best (in terms of when and where and how she got there). I found the last two paragraphs the most interesting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.bacb8b1311d5
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Fair enough, one rape is fine, 2+ too many, I'll keep that in mind.
It's not (only) about the number of inicidents, it's about being reasonably certain. Apparently they were by two, if the other aggressor confirms the incident there is a case.

Would you react the same if it was about a Democrat? Or about a women? Being a Republican is not a crime.

How would you, or anybody else reading this and finding it just to act based on unconfirmed allegations, like to be found guilty without actual prrof?
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Fair enough, one rape is fine, 2+ too many, I'll keep that in mind.
No alleged rape took place according to the accuser. Sexual assault is claimed but rape is a far more egregious offense... Let's not confuse the two...
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It's not (only) about the number of inicidents, it's about being reasonably certain. Apparently they were by two, if the other aggressor confirms the incident there is a case.

Would you react the same if it was about a Democrat? Or about a women? Being a Republican is not a crime.

How would you, or anybody else reading this and finding it just to act based on unconfirmed allegations, like to be found guilty without actual prrof?
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Third party involved in this alleged event is Mark Judge who denies that this ever occurred. Interesting article sent to me by a friend today who subscribes to the Washington Post which sheds more detail on the accuser and what she says took place. Note that her recollection is murky at best (in terms of when and where and how she got there). I found the last two paragraphs the most interesting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.bacb8b1311d5
Was this alleged incident an isolated case or will there be more?

The way the alleged incident is described seems to indicate a pattern of behaviour but it remains an isolated case without further complaints.
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The 95% confidence interval for the number of excess deaths ranges from 793 to 8498. That's more than a full order of magnitude between the extremes!

And keep in mind, this is with 95% confidence. That is, statistically speaking, in 1 of 20 cases the excess death toll probably lies outside of that confidence interval.

That's not a result you can put a number on you're fairly safe to be reasonably accurate. In my book the study essentially says "There quite probably were some unnecessary deaths but we can't really assign a meaningful number with confidence."
Even the minimum number in this range is 50 times the number of deaths quoted by Trump.

If he had done a better job of restoring infrastructure in Puerto Rico then the confidence would have been much higher.

Hurricane Maria hit the island on Sept. 20, 2017. The first 2,600 soldiers arrived in Puerto Rico eight days later and would stay until mid-November.

Compare with US mainland and Hurricane Florence where 7,000 troops were available on day 1.

Or compare with the Haiti earthquake where the first US troops arrived after 2 days.
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Was this alleged incident an isolated case or will there be more?

The way the alleged incident is described seems to indicate a pattern of behaviour but it remains an isolated case without further complaints.
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Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said Monday that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh denies attending an early 1980s party at the center of a sexual assault allegation against him.
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Impressive, I do not remember every party I attended three years ago, never mind over 30 years!

Brett Kavanaugh would be better advised to keep his mouth shut!

Mark Judge told the New York Times on Friday," I never saw anything like what was described." So he was at this party? With Kavanaugh?

Mark Judge wrote his 1997 memoir, "Wasted: Tales of a GenX Drunk".

It is claimed that some quotes are;
"His drinking became so extreme that he had blackout episodes, and woke up on the floor of a restaurant bathroom with no memory of how he got there.
Once “I had the first beer, I found it impossible to stop until I was completely annihilated,” he wrote."

Judge said last week he had no memory of the incident described by Kavanaugh’s accuser.

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Was this alleged incident an isolated case or will there be more?

The way the alleged incident is described seems to indicate a pattern of behaviour but it remains an isolated case without further complaints.
No other complaints have surfaced. I am registered as an independent in terms of voting in the US and so I have no party alliance/agenda here. But I have a very close relative who was raped and almost killed and I assure you, she knows the exact hour, day and month - notwithstanding second this occurred. She has struggled for years to recover and so I find it curious that this woman cannot even remember the exact year, nor month, nor venue, nor how she got there etc...

Given what my close relative went through/is going through...this seems really odd. And the timing seems suspect as well... I would love to believe her but cannot given her lack of recall. I would expect this from someone drugged or knocked unconscious but this never happened in her case. Something seems amiss...
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