View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President? |
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18.09.2018, 17:41
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | That's the problem with liberals, they have no principles. | | | | | You think my antipathy towards the unprecedently corrupt racial demagogue and confessed sexual predator with autocratic ambitions that 62 million Republicans elected to the most powerful office in the world makes me look bad? Okey dokey Bob....
Perhaps it was Trump's conservative principles of family values (adultery & sexual assault), free trade (protectionism & cronyism), fiscal conservatism (massive increase to the deficit), and law & order (5 people in his campaign have plead guilty to crimes) that got him across the finish line. I sure wish I could have solid principles like ya'll.
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18.09.2018, 17:58
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Well then, let's look at her therapist's notes in which she claims she was assaulted by 4 men - which the accuser now says the therapist "got wrong" and wrote incorrectly and there were only 4 boys at the party but two assaulted her. | | | | | Do you have a source for this? I haven't seen this yet. I'm quite confused how a party that was vaguely identified, as you correctly noted, can be refuted in such detail before an investigation has taken place. By the way, the FBI requires the Trump administration's OK to investigate it, which they have so far chosen not to give: | Quote: |  | | | The White House hasn’t asked the FBI to investigate the allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted a woman when they were in high school, a request required for the bureau to take further action, according to two people familiar with the matter. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Except, one didn't really assault her; he watched and then jumped on top of both of them and effectively freed her. Except, that person, Mark Judge, denies the event completely. | | | | | This Mark Judge guy definitely needs to go under oath and tell his story. He seems like a pleasant fellow, writing in his yearbook that: | Quote: |  | | | Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs. | | | | |
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18.09.2018, 18:17
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Do you have a source for this? I haven't seen this yet. I'm quite confused how a party that was vaguely identified, as you correctly noted, can be refuted in such detail before an investigation has taken place. By the way, the FBI requires the Trump administration's OK to investigate it, which they have so far chosen not to give:
This Mark Judge guy definitely needs to go under oath and tell his story. He seems like a pleasant fellow, writing in his yearbook that: | | | | | Okay... I am getting a little worried here. You post an article which you say you have read but you forget a lot of details about the story you posted. And so here is a refresher:
"Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband. The therapist’s notes, portions of which were provided by Ford and reviewed by The Washington Post, do not mention Kavanaugh’s name but say she reported that she was attacked by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room."
The article in the Washington Post was my source...
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18.09.2018, 18:48
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room." | | | | | Ah, I did miss that when I read it 2 days ago. Thanks.
I don't think that transcription error has much bearing on her credibility, do you? What's clear from the presence of notes describing the incident 6 years ago is that this isn't an event she conjured for attention seeking or some unknown nefarious reason. She was a highly successful woman just living her life, dealing with her trauma, until the person who assaulted her was mentioned as a possible supreme court nominee, then she anonymously reached out.
They should put them all on the stand - Christine, Mark, Brett, and other people at the party.
But I don't see a good reason to doubt her story. I believe her.
For the record, I also believe Juanita Broaddrick that Bill Clinton raped her. And I believe the numerous women who claimed Donald Trump sexually assaulted them. I believe the group of women who say Bush Sr. groped them, the ones who accused John Conyers of harassment, those that accused Clarence Thomas of harassment, and Al Franken of groping . I know ya'll want to make this partisan but that's how I approach sexual assault accusations.
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18.09.2018, 19:36
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | For the record, I also believe Juanita Broaddrick that Bill Clinton raped her. And I believe the numerous women who claimed Donald Trump sexually assaulted them. I believe the group of women who say Bush Sr. groped them, the ones who accused John Conyers of harassment, those that accused Clarence Thomas of harassment, and Al Franken of groping . I know ya'll want to make this partisan but that's how I approach sexual assault accusations. | | | | | I believe that Mary was a virgin and that Clinton smoked but didn't inhale.
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18.09.2018, 22:44
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Just come back from 10 days away, no phone, no internet.
Is he really still in office?   | 
18.09.2018, 23:02
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Just come back from 10 days away, no phone, no internet.
... | | | | | meditating?
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18.09.2018, 23:07
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Just great food, great wine, great scenery, great spas - great friends | 
19.09.2018, 09:08
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Just great food, great wine, great scenery, great spas - great friends  | | | | | Sounds a great escape, where'd you go?
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19.09.2018, 09:15
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19.09.2018, 09:20
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | The reason most people who take exception to Trump is because he's largely useless, antagonistic and overwhelmed by a job he clearly didn't think he'd win. If he manages to pull something out of the bag occasionally, isn't that a good thing?
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19.09.2018, 09:20
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | What has Trump got to do with it? This was a summit between the leaders of the two Koreas...Is Captain Toadstool claiming credit for this too?
Anyway, he promised Toady he'd disarm, then didn't. He's promised Moon he will now - I wouldn't hold my breath.
N.B. - The deal includes the provision that if NK abandon their nuclear programme, the US must take "Reciprocal Measures" - I suspect this is less likely to be US nuclear disarmament, and more likely removal of US Troops from the Korean Peninsula, which of course also won't happen.
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19.09.2018, 10:02
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | dog - pony - show
This isn't the first time NK has talked about denuclearisation, won't be the last. NK is a nuclear state, that not going to change, why would Kim ever give them up when it's the only reason anyone talks seriously with him?.
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19.09.2018, 11:16
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | What has Trump got to do with it? This was a summit between the leaders of the two Koreas...Is Captain Toadstool claiming credit for this too? | | | | | There's no denying that diplomatic talks have really mushroomed under Trump's guidance.
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19.09.2018, 11:44
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Don't sweat it, he's conservative and Trump approved. The mob has found him guilty. | | | | | #deflection
nothing to do with being a conservative, nothing to do with being spanky approved.
Someone nominated to a lifetime role who cannot be removed has been accused of a serious attack, he has everything to gain by lying about it, his accuser has very much to lose by telling the truth. the choices as I see it are
1. Ignore her
2. Say the stakes are too high, lets take a break, delay the nomination and investigate, if the accusations are groundless we only lost some time.
If you can make a case for option #1 that doesn't come down to 'we don't care about right and wrong we just want to get our guy in' then lets hear it. Sadly the GOP have given up even the pretence of doing the right thing.
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19.09.2018, 14:51
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | dog - pony - show
This isn't the first time NK has talked about denuclearisation, won't be the last. NK is a nuclear state, that not going to change, why would Kim ever give them up when it's the only reason anyone talks seriously with him?. | | | | | A plan has dates matched to deliverables; look forward to this plan!
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19.09.2018, 15:02
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
“North Korea recommits to denuclearization - we’ve come a long way.” @FoxNews | | | | | "recommits" means we have travelled around in a circle not " we’ve come a long way"?
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19.09.2018, 15:16
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
The US, including Trump, keep talking about denuclearisation of the “North” while the N. Koreans keep taking about the denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula.
C’est pas la même chose, n’est pas?
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19.09.2018, 17:28
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Sounds a great escape, where'd you go? | | | | | South East Tuscany, Val d'Orcia - not yet ruined by tooo much tourism- real village... South of Pienza in the hills.
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19.09.2018, 18:17
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "recommits" means we have travelled around in a circle not " we’ve come a long way"? | | | | | These circles can be huge! | The following 3 users would like to thank curley for this useful post: | |
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