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Old 26.09.2018, 22:40
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Why would you not insist the FBI investigate if you have nothing to hide? why would you ask for an FBI investigation if you were lying?
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Let's review the timing of these allegations ..shall we?

Feinstein could have presented Dr Ford's accusation much earlier but she chose NOT to. Why exactly? Why did Feinstein not submit Dr Ford's accusation immediately to the FBI for investigation in June/July? Why did she wait, just before the voting? If she would have submitted them to the FBI in July, there would be plenty of time for the FBI to investigate but she chose not to and waited just before the Senate was set to vote. Ask again...why??

Again this is gamesmanship by one party versus the other and frankly, I am sick of it. But to make such accusations, and have very little evidence to me, is horrific!

What if this guy is in fact innocent? Have you thought about that and how this smear campaign will affect his family and him or are we back in Salem, mid 1600s and we think he is white and privileged so he must be a jerk and deserves what comes to him?

Innocent until proven guilty and so far Dr Ford's memory and lack of evidence is suspect to me. And the others? I think they are money grabbers/publicity seekers otherwise they would have come forth earlier and would not have waited until the last minute.

If Kavanaugh is guilty then prove it! But unsubstantiated claims do not equal guilt. PS...I could care less whether he is on the Court or not but I have doubted this woman's claims since the Washington Post article was printed. And that may be the author's fault and not the accuser but the way her story was presented seemed off to me...
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Old 26.09.2018, 22:51
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Let's review the timing of these allegations ..shall we?

Feinstein could have presented Dr Ford's accusation much earlier but she chose NOT to. Why exactly? Why did Feinstein not submit Dr Ford's accusation immediately to the FBI for investigation in June/July? Why did she wait, just before the voting? If she would have submitted them to the FBI in July, there would be plenty of time for the FBI to investigate but she chose not to and waited just before the Senate was set to vote. Ask again...why??

Again this is gamesmanship by one party versus the other and frankly, I am sick of it. But to make such accusations, and have very little evidence to me, is horrific!

What if this guy is in fact innocent? Have you thought about that and how this smear campaign will affect his family and him or are we back in Salem, mid 1600s and we think he is white and privileged so he must be a jerk and deserves what comes to him?

Innocent until proven guilty and so far Dr Ford's memory and lack of evidence is suspect to me. And the others? I think they are money grabbers/publicity seekers otherwise they would have come forth earlier and would not have waited until the last minute.

If Kavanaugh is guilty then prove it! But unsubstantiated claims do not equal guilt. PS...I could care less whether he is on the Court or not but I have doubted this woman's claims since the Washington Post article was printed. And that may be the author's fault and not the accused but the way her story was presented seemed off to me...
Good idea, let us ignore the lengthening string of accusers in case it will affect his family

Talking about "unsubstantiated claims" then how about "I think they are money grabbers/publicity seekers"
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Good idea, let us ignore the lengthening string of accusers in case it will affect his family

Talking about "unsubstantiated claims" then how about "I think they are money grabbers/publicity seekers"
Well, Marton since you are the lecturer, this confirmation process has been going on for some time (about 2 1/2 months to be exact) Why did these accusations occur just before the confirmation vote? Especially since the alleged offenses occurred MANY years ago?

Why wait until the last moment if you are sure that Kavanaugh assaulted you? Doesn't that strike you as odd?

The hearing is about Dr Ford and not about the others. And her case has some issues but I suspect, the other accusations and the timing of those accusations, are meant to delay confirmation. Mudslinging at its best. And sorry, anyone who would choose Stormy Daniel's lawyer as their attorney would raise an eyebrow or two. Attorneys are a dime a dozen and reputable ones proliferate. Why choose him?
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And this just in...The polygraph not consistent with Ford's allegations:

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I guess now we know why they waited to submit the Polygraph. Wonder how many inconsistencies there will be in the therapist's notes! I am beginning to suspect that Dr Ford will be a no show...

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Old 26.09.2018, 23:27
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Well, Marton since you are the lecturer, this confirmation process has been going on for some time (about 2 1/2 months to be exact) Why did these accusations occur just before the confirmation vote? Especially since the alleged offenses occurred MANY years ago?

Why wait until the last moment if you are sure that Kavanaugh assaulted you? Doesn't that strike you as odd?

The hearing is about Dr Ford and not about the others. And her case has some issues but I suspect, the other accusations and the timing of those accusations, are meant to delay confirmation. Mudslinging at its best. And sorry, anyone who would choose Stormy Daniel's lawyer as their attorney would raise an eyebrow or two. Attorneys are a dime a dozen and reputable ones proliferate. Why choose him?
Why choose Michael Avenatti? Because he is a very successful lawyer and has shown he can stand up to the GOP who are standing behind Kavenaugh.

Describing Avenatti as Stormy Daniel's lawyer is simply and regrettably a very cheap attempt to discredit him by mud slinging.
You could also mention he received George Washington University's prestigious Alumni Achievement Award in 2010? The Alumni Achievement Award is the highest form of recognition given by the university to an alumnus on an annual basis.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...wetnick-story/
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Old 26.09.2018, 23:31
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Why choose Michael Avenatti? Because he is a very successful lawyer and has shown he can stand up to the GOP who are standing behind Kavenaugh.

Describing Avenatti as Stormy Daniel's lawyer is simply and regrettably a very cheap attempt to discredit him by mud slinging.
You could also mention he received George Washington University's prestigious Alumni Achievement Award in 2010? The Alumni Achievement Award is the highest form of recognition given by the university to an alumnus on an annual basis.
Marton, even as a lecturer, this is far fetched Alumni achievement awards can easily be bought in the US or given based upon whom one knows.
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Old 26.09.2018, 23:32
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........ And sorry, anyone who would choose Stormy Daniel's lawyer as their attorney would raise an eyebrow or two. Attorneys are a dime a dozen and reputable ones proliferate. Why choose him?
This is rather striking. Is he the eminent authority on sexual assault cases in the entire US?
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This is rather striking. Is he the eminent authority on sexual assault cases in the entire US?
I doubt it, but he is high profile if you want to be heard I guess. The man has a platform that Tossbag, Tosspot and Tossrag from the local strip mall don't have.
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Okay this guy, Avenatti, is a piece of work. See link below:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michae...about-trump-31
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Old 27.09.2018, 00:29
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Okay this guy, Avenatti, is a piece of work. See link below:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michae...about-trump-31
For someone who compares the allegations against Kavenaugh with the Salem trials you are surprisingly happy to make all kinds of whataboutery accusations and to raise irrelevant issues about the other main characters.

It is totally irrelevant what Avenatti is or is not and the timing of the allegations is also totally irrelevant.

Relevant is are the allegations valid or not. Without a proper police investigation we will probably never know!
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For someone who compares the allegations against Kavenaugh with the Salem trials you are surprisingly happy to make all kinds of whataboutery accusations and to raise irrelevant issues about the other main characters.

It is totally irrelevant what Avenatti is or is not and the timing of the allegations is also totally irrelevant.

Relevant is are the allegations valid or not. Without a proper police investigation we will probably never know!
Aww Martin! You disappoint me... This not good from a Lecturer! It is completely relevant who Avenatti is and his past - notwithstanding current clientele (why would Dems of all people back off from his client's salacious allegations?)

And timing? You must be joking!! Of course timing is relevant. The accusers allege an offense which supposedly occurred 30 plus years ago... Why wait until now? How can you argue that timing is not an issue?

Notwithstanding, Feinstein's timing in releasing Dr Ford's accusation. Why wait until just before the Senate confirmation? Why won't Ford release her therapist's notes to the Senate Judiciary Committee? She released them to the Washington Post so why not release them to the Committee?

Sorry...too many holes here and I will be very curious as to what will happen tomorrow.

Again, if Kavanaugh is guilty of the alleged offenses then he must pay. But the accuser must present evidence to support her accusation...
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Very sporting of you to propose the alleged victim gets a better lawyer
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Very sporting of you to propose the alleged victim gets a better lawyer
Where in my post did I ever suggest Dr Ford get a better lawyer? Not at all but keep trying Marton
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As for the supposed third victim, did you read the article I sent about Avenatti and his client... I think you should.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...wetnick-story/
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Okay this guy, Avenatti, is a piece of work. See link below:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michae...about-trump-31
"A piece of work". Generally, that term is used only pejoratively. I just read the whole article you linked and I fail to detect anything that backs your obvious disdain for Avenatti. Your right-wing bias is showing, very clearly. It's amusing to see those on the right flailing around at the emergence of a popular, strong Democrat with the guts to speak out and return the flak thrown at him.

There's a mention of the $10 million judgment against Avenatti's firm (not described as a bankruptcy). Is this what you think qualifies Avenatti as a "piece of work"? If so, maybe you should take a figurative step back and attempt to re-read the article objectively. Substitute the word "Trump" (oh, and throw in several bankruptcies and screwings-over of small businesses and individual contractors) for "Avenatti" and see how you interpret the article.
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Kavanaugh accuser says alleged assault 'altered my life'

Not half as much as it will if (when?) this allegation gets dismissed by the Senate Judiciary Committee .
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Kavanaugh accuser says alleged assault 'altered my life'

Not half as much as it will if (when?) this allegation gets dismissed by the Senate Judiciary Committee .
The Senate Judiciary Committee is a political body with a GOP majority, not a court of law; why will it effect anybodies life if they dismiss an allegation - probably they already made that decision?
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