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Old 27.09.2018, 13:41
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The Senate Judiciary Committee is a political body with a GOP majority, not a court of law; why will it effect anybodies life if they dismiss an allegation - probably they already made that decision?
Was wondering that myself. I presume it is because some "very fine people" will probably take it upon themselves to embroil themselves in her life until their next anti-christ figure hits the headlines.
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Old 27.09.2018, 13:42
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The Senate Judiciary Committee is a political body with a GOP majority, not a court of law; why will it effect anybodies life if they dismiss an allegation - probably they already made that decision?
I imagine CNN will have live coverage of the hearing today (4pm European time). I would put the odds at 50/50 in terms of what the committee decides. The GOP has retained a legal expert (female) specializing in sexual assault to ask questions should any men on the committee (and they are all men on the GOP side) not feel comfortable questioning Ford.
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Old 27.09.2018, 13:42
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Where in my post did I ever suggest Dr Ford get a better lawyer? Not at all but keep trying Marton
Then please explain what was the point you were trying to make by attacking Avenatti's reputation?

BTW the Hill is not a liberal publication, here is another one to chew over

Five Times Brett Kavanaugh Appears to Have Lied to Congress While Under Oath

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Old 27.09.2018, 13:55
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The Senate Judiciary Committee is a political body with a GOP majority, not a court of law; why will it effect anybodies life if they dismiss an allegation - probably they already made that decision?
If she's had trouble coping with this alleged incident then I doubt she'll manage too well if it gets dismissed having made international news.
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Old 27.09.2018, 14:32
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If she's had trouble coping with this alleged incident then I doubt she'll manage too well if it gets dismissed having made international news.
She was 15 - her life, as she calls it, has already happened. She's older, wiser and now kicks arse.. she isn't the only one either, by all accounts.
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Old 27.09.2018, 15:17
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But this is not a Court hearing, it is a Senate hearing so what has Kavenaugh to fear from submitting to a polygraph?
Polygraphs don't show the veracity of statements, they show the (lack of) stress symptoms that accompy lieing.

With "to lie" defined as knowingly and intentionally telling something that isn't true.

I bet Trump would easily pass any and every polygraph test he submits himself to voluntarily. Not because he won't lie, quite the contrary, but because he can make himself believe the drivel he spouts forth.
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Old 27.09.2018, 15:23
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She was 15 - her life, as she calls it, has already happened. She's older, wiser and now kicks arse..
Is that what throwing around unprovable accusations is known as these days?
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Old 27.09.2018, 15:38
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Is that what throwing around unprovable accusations is known as these days?
Unprovable accusations. Heavy words, did you weigh them?

Good old historic crimes, like the rape and abuse of kids and women by predator priests going back decades.. who no one believed, for decades.
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Old 27.09.2018, 15:44
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Unprovable accusations. Heavy words, did you weigh them?

Good old historic crimes, like the rape and abuse of kids and women by predator priests going back decades.. who no one believed, for decades.
Not like that at all, nor comparable.
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Old 27.09.2018, 15:49
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Not like that at all, nor comparable.
Yes you are right.

Which is why seedy little pervs carry on getting away with this kind of thing and always will.

Pick on the vulnerable then pull their allegations to bits once they are old enough and brave enough to address it.

If he's one of those god-bothering "thoughts and prayers" hypocrites let's hope he's shaking in his shoes wondering what kind of fiery damnation his creator has got for him as he's lay on his death bed when the time comes.
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Old 27.09.2018, 16:28
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Perhaps the safest thing to do would be to replace Kavanaugh with a woman.
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Old 27.09.2018, 18:26
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Marton, even as a lecturer, this is far fetched Alumni achievement awards can easily be bought in the US or given based upon whom one knows.
'can'? so you don't know that he did buy it? or that he was given it based on who he knows? I thought you were all about the hard facts?

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Okay this guy, Avenatti, is a piece of work.
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"Woman makes credible allegations of sexual assault"
"Never mind that, whatabout her attorney"
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And timing? You must be joking!! Of course timing is relevant. The accusers allege an offense which supposedly occurred 30 plus years ago... Why wait until now? How can you argue that timing is not an issue?
errrr, because it's not? the alleged event and the public allegations are two separate events; timing of the allegations in current times does not affect whether it happened in the past, time doesn't work that way.

'Why wait until now' - not even going to bother with that one. Just more nonsense.
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Old 27.09.2018, 19:13
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testimony by dr.ford seems pretty solid so far.


I don't see how reps are gonna recoup
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Old 27.09.2018, 19:19
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testimony by dr.ford seems pretty solid so far.


I don't see how reps are gonna recoup
I agree. She is an impressive witness and I don't think the independent counsel the GOP has used has been effective...
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Old 27.09.2018, 19:23
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@Reids
About timing!

Maybe I have a nasty streak but if I had been assaulted and I later had a chance to get back at the perp. then I would time it for the maximum damage?
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Old 27.09.2018, 19:51
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Yes you are right.

Which is why seedy little pervs carry on getting away with this kind of thing and always will.

Pick on the vulnerable then pull their allegations to bits once they are old enough and brave enough to address it.

If he's one of those god-bothering "thoughts and prayers" hypocrites let's hope he's shaking in his shoes wondering what kind of fiery damnation his creator has got for him as he's lay on his death bed when the time comes.
You can see it in his tighly pressed together quivering lips that he knows exactly what Dr Ford is talking about.

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Old 27.09.2018, 20:08
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As someone who leans left, I am bewildered at so called 'liberals' who are ready to throw a potentially innocent man under the bus for political reasons.
And I am bewildered by how many “law-and-order Republicans” are ready to attack the characters of people who claim to be victims of sexual assault rather than concentrating on the narrative?
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And I am bewildered by how many “law-and-order Republicans” are ready to attack the characters of people who claim to be victims of sexual assault rather than concentrating on the narrative?
Take it a step back; bewildered as to why reps wouldn't push for the fbi to investigate. If they are right they win, if they are in the wrong they can taunt that thry did the morally correct thing.
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Interesting read in NY times today: Anita Hill's testimony in 1991 and how it compares.
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As someone who leans left, I am bewildered at so called 'liberals' who are ready to throw a potentially innocent man under the bus for political reasons.
Interesting that you find calling for an investigation into an allegation of a crime being committed is seen as "throwing someone under a bus".

Just because these guys aren't caught with their hands down a lady's bra or up her skirt doesn't automatically mean they're innocent.

Particularly that he is currently undergoing a process that will potentially see him elected to a life-long position at the pinnacle of upholding the law, it's in everybody's interest to ensure he is above reproach otherwise he is just another hypocrite, don't you think?

If you are going down the "political reasons" route then the question has to be, why is he and his supporters so vehemently trying to deflect and trivialise the charges around him? Political reasons indeed...
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