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28.09.2018, 23:09
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | What can be proved pretty much depends on one's lawer. | | | | | Don't you mean "liar"?
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28.09.2018, 23:17
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Neither you or I know what can be proved! | | | | | Proved?
Proven is the correct word.
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28.09.2018, 23:39
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Pedants.
Lawyer and proven. Are we good now?
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28.09.2018, 23:48
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I can't get my head round the apparent pervasiveness of sexual deviance in American culture.
I mean, I went to all kinds of parties as a young man, with booze, drugs, destruction of property and eruptions of violence pretty much par for the course. There was also a fair bit of shagging going on - but gang rape? Sexual assault? It just wasn't our style. In fact, I'm pretty sure that any attempts on any of our female friends would have landed the perpetrator in casualty before the end of the night.
But of course, I'm just a pleb. What about the likes of the Bullingdon Boys? Well, despite plenty of people having good reason to dig up as much dirt on the Tories as possible, it seems the worst that they can come up with is a former prime minister allegedly penetrating a dead pig's head. Again, no gang banging, no sexual assault, just a rather distasteful prank in which nobody got hurt.
So what gives, America? Is it really populated by thousands of well-heeled perverts or what? Is this a class thing? A culture thing? A puritan thing?
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29.09.2018, 00:15
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | I'm not so sure that was under pressure, it looked to me like an act, I thought he'd been told 'go out, look angry, get emotional' I can't imagine who would have told him to do that. | | | | | Well, if he listened to somebody telling him to do so PLUS implemented that advice the way he did ....... that only proves my point, no? | Quote: | |  | | | Proved? 
Proven is the correct word. 
Tom | | | | | Ahh, thanks mate. That really bugged me actually. LOL.
No problem, marton, you just confused me for a moment | Quote: |  | | | I can't get my head round the apparent pervasiveness of sexual deviance in American culture.
I mean, I went to all kinds of parties as a young man, with booze, drugs, destruction of property and eruptions of violence pretty much par for the course. There was also a fair bit of shagging going on - but gang rape? Sexual assault? It just wasn't our style. In fact, I'm pretty sure that any attempts on any of our female friends would have landed the perpetrator in casualty before the end of the night.
But of course, I'm just a pleb. What about the likes of the Bullingdon Boys? Well, despite plenty of people having good reason to dig up as much dirt on the Tories as possible, it seems the worst that they can come up with is a former prime minister allegedly penetrating a dead pig's head. Again, no gang banging, no sexual assault, just a rather distasteful prank in which nobody got hurt.
So what gives, America? Is it really populated by thousands of well-heeled perverts or what? Is this a class thing? A culture thing? A puritan thing? | | | | | The latter, I think.
You know, it's a bit like with the catholic church-folks? If they let them live their lives while spreading the gospel they wouldn't have to deal with how many thousand cases now?
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29.09.2018, 01:46
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Another busy day | Quote: |  | | | Statement from President @realDonaldTrump:
Ive ordered the FBI to conduct a supplemental investigation to update Judge Kavanaughs file. As the Senate has requested, this update must be limited in scope and completed in less than one week.
Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) September 28, 2018 | | | | | Limiting to a week makes the whole idea a farce. | Quote: |  | | | A federal judge ruled Friday that over 200 Democratic representatives and senators can sue President Trump over claims he violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution regarding his businesses with foreign governments. | | | | | Source
Step in the right direction but what will it achieve? | Quote: |  | | | GoFundMe campaigns supporting Christine Blasey Ford top $700K | | | | | Source | Quote: |  | | | Avenatti says he will 'thoroughly enjoy embarrassing' Senate GOP for advancing Kavanaugh's nomination | | | | | Source
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | I'm not so sure that was under pressure, it looked to me like an act, I thought he'd been told 'go out, look angry, get emotional' I can't imagine who would have told him to do that. | | | | | His facial contortions,tongue lollng around, lips tightly pursed together, perpetual sniffing etc etc was really hard to look at. He's a bit of a freak!
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29.09.2018, 09:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | (A partisan thing?) | | | | | Forbidden fruit, more likely... Selfishness wrapped in hypocrisy.
I wouldn't generalize this only for the US, violence against weaker elements is everywhere, especially where kindness is considered to be a weakness. And where decency gets defined by what people say, as opposed to what they actually do.
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29.09.2018, 09:33
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Forbidden fruit, more likely... Selfishness wrapped in hypocricy.
I wouldn't generalize this only for the US, violence against weaker elements is everywhere, especially where kindness is considered to be a weakness. And where decency gets defined by what people say, as opposed to what they actually do. | | | | | Is that your concept of a woman? " a weaker element"
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | . . .
So what gives, America? Is it really populated by thousands of well-heeled perverts or what? Is this a class thing? A culture thing? A puritan thing? | | | | | It is, in part, their perverse concept of morality.
The wanton destruction, loss of lives and human misery in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Gaza, Yemen etc. etc. is OK and having touched a woman's tit many decades ago is not.
Anyway, irrespective of all the issues about whether Kavanaugh is good candidate for the supreme court or whether professor Ford is a credible witness, one thing is encouraging to see. That is that some of the destructive energies of that country are being focused inwards and dissipated in this circus performance. Hopefully, that means less remaining destructive energy left its global rampage.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It is, in part, their perverse concept of morality.
The wanton destruction, loss of lives and human misery in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Gaza, Yemen etc. etc. is OK and having touched a woman's tit many decades ago is not.
Anyway, irrespective of all the issues about whether Kavanaugh is good candidate for the supreme court or whether professor Ford is a credible witness, one thing is encouraging to see. That is that some of the destructive energies of that country are being focused inwards and dissipated in this circus performance. Hopefully, that means less remaining destructive energy left its global rampage. | | | | | Yes. You can kill kids in Jemen and elsewhere but you can't drink till you are 21.  .Is that not sick? But maybe better that way. Drunk under 21 soldiers going on their killing sprees
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29.09.2018, 10:48
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | (A partisan thing?) | | | | | Bill Clinton is a Republican now, is he?
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Why do they say yes in Scottish ( aye ) in the hearing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6yockoDUPA
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29.09.2018, 11:40
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But whatabout | | | | | What about what? This goes across party lines. There seem to be perverts all over the place. You are not seriously suggesting this is merely a Republican problem?
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29.09.2018, 11:44
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "should be taken as witness testimony." actually of little value without the opportunity to cross examine?
cf. Ford was cross examined! | | | | | That's up to the commission to decide, isn't it. And I wouldn't call the risk of perjury (if Judge lied in his letter) of little value.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | What about what? This goes across party lines. There seem to be perverts all over the place. You are not seriously suggesting this is merely a Republican problem? | | | | | But the republicans have a good role model- Trump | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Is that your concept of a woman? " a weaker element" | | | | | No. Was that an attempt to engage me in a convo?
Everybody can find themselves in a vulnerable position or around people who try to force them into a vulnerable position.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But whatabout | | | | | The catholic priests?
So American.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | No. Was that an attempt to engage me in a convo? 
Everybody can find themselves in a vulnerable position or around people who try to force them into a vulnerable position. | | | | | " Was that an attempt to engage me in a convo?". Was not my first motive. But now that I think about it? | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | ...So what gives, America? Is it really populated by thousands of well-heeled perverts or what? Is this a class thing? A culture thing? A puritan thing? | | | | | Having lived through American high school and university, I can only say it seems to be ingrained in the culture.
I lost count of how many times a guy grabbed my butt or my breasts just to see how I'd react, both in high school and uni. Not just me, pretty much every gal I knew.
At uni, the frat boys would regularly put up fake signs for the restrooms to trick the girls into going into someone's bedroom or the men's room, where they'd get groped. But I never witnessed anything "worse" if you want to call it that. My friends and I learned pretty quickly that the key to avoiding problems at parties was to A) not get so drunk we couldn't think straight and B) always go in pairs, even to the bathroom. My uni wasn't that bad. Some of my friends were issued rape whistles at 1st year orientation.
Kids of all ages pull each others' pants down (pants-ing) or undies up (wedgies). Kids are mean. | Quote: | |  | | | ...Limiting to a week makes the whole idea a farce. | | | | | Depends. The FBI probably already has a file on Kavanaugh, and the scope of the investigation is limited. The only bombshell I can imagine is if Kavanaugh had more than one set of diaries/agendas that comes out with evidence he did assault women. So far his calendars are a bit weird but they are consistent with what he's said. | Quote: | |  | | | (A partisan thing?) | | | | | In terms of the hearing, it seems so. Everything is going along party lines so far, which was to be expected. Kudos to Flake for forcing the FBI investigation as a condition of his vote. He didn't have to. He's not running for re-election so there wouldn't really be any damage control for him. | Quote: | |  | | | Why do they say yes in Scottish ( aye ) in the hearing? | | | | | Because the Constitution says so.  The Presentment Clause, which is contained in Article I, Section 7, Clauses 2 and 3, reads (in part, emphasis mine): | Quote: |  | | | ...But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. | | | | | | The following 2 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | |
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