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Old 03.10.2018, 20:53
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I should note that while I found her credible in that it seemed from her account she suffered some sort of "trauma", I do not think there is enough evidence from her testimony to suggest Kavanaugh was the perpetrator...
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Old 03.10.2018, 20:55
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In the same link, the person involved denied what the boy friend claimed.

Confusing isn't it
Yes! But the FBI friend denied it via Twitter which is not the same as a sworn statement...
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Old 03.10.2018, 20:56
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Yes! But the FBI friend denied it via Twitter which is not the same as a sworn statement...
And your comments are all posts in a forum so if they are not sworn statements we are allowed to ignore them?
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Old 03.10.2018, 21:02
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Take this for what it is worth, as the outlet is clearly conservative, but my husband received this article from a colleague this afternoon. Scroll down to the end of the article and you will see a photo of the FBI agent/friend, Monica McLean, with none other that Avenatti in 2018!! Very odd indeed... The article has some far fetched theories on the possibility of DOJ involvement.... Bizarre!!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ter-construct/
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And your comments are all posts in a forum so if they are not sworn statements we are allowed to ignore them?
You can read and interpret as you feel fit Marton! But you and I know that a twitter response/defense is not the same as a sworn statement...
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Old 03.10.2018, 21:07
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You can read and interpret as you feel fit Marton! But you and I know that a twitter response/defense is not the same as a sworn statement...
You and I both know that it was not a twitter response but a statement released by Ford's lawyers.

The Dems are now accusing the GOP of law breaking with their attacks on the alleged victims.

"Rape shield laws and the federal rules of evidence are designed precisely to stop these sort of attacks. The Judiciary Committee in 1994 expressly prohibited these abuses in the Violence Against Women Act."
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Old 03.10.2018, 21:14
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You and I both know that it was not a twitter response but a statement released by Ford's lawyers.

The Dems are now accusing the GOP of law breaking with their attacks on the alleged victims.

"Rape shield laws and the federal rules of evidence are designed precisely to stop these sort of attacks. The Judiciary Committee in 1994 expressly prohibited these abuses in the Violence Against Women Act."
Initially, she released it under a twitter feed. No idea she issued a statement through her counsel. Was it a sworn statement?
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Old 03.10.2018, 21:35
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Which begs the question, why would McLean use the same counsel as Dr Ford?
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Old 03.10.2018, 22:05
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And as the night fell over the English Forum, the moon went up and the nightingale started singing, there were terrifish and marton and the subject of sworn statements.....

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LOL Marton and I have no issue with sworn statements under penalty under the law but StirB and Ouchboy do
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LOL Marton and I have no issue with sworn statements under penalty under the law but StirB and Ouchboy do
Yawn.
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Old 03.10.2018, 22:40
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PS...StirB and Ouchboy...Sworn statements are also considered under "oath" - which, if proven false, will incur a charge of perjury. Marton raises a very good point in that rarely has this offense been prosecuted (the last time was during Watergate I believe).

This time, I think anyone who perjurs/lies under oath/testimony or sworn statement may be prosecuted given the pervasive coverage this Ford/Kavanaugh allegation has received - particularly if Dr Ford proves to be unreliable in her testimony.

Time will tell but it should be interesting!
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What a bizarre proposition: that all the participants in any litigation who are represented by the same lawyer must be untruthful and unreliable. Are you suggesting that Avenatti seeks out liars as clients? Or that he systematically (and apparently very successfully, without getting caught) trains them to lie (even when they have palpably provable cases)?

Or is it just women who are involved in cases concerning sexual misconduct who disturb you?

What a weird planet you must live on.
You may not think my views are logical but I'm entitled to them. I'm surprised at the pettiness of your post.
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Old 03.10.2018, 23:00
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A pesky ex boyfriend who submitted a sworn statement. The question is: will McLean do the same?
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PS...StirB and Ouchboy...Sworn statements are also considered under "oath"
Seriously, just stop. You're incredibly boring.
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Old 03.10.2018, 23:25
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Keep BULLYING StirB ...That may be the one thing in which you excel!!
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Old 03.10.2018, 23:36
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Keep BULLYING StirB ...That may be the one thing in which you excel!!
I'm sorry if asking you to quote sources is bullying. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
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Old 03.10.2018, 23:59
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You may not think my views are logical but I'm entitled to them. I'm surprised at the pettiness of your post.
And I was surprised, given the usual tone of your posts historically, at the apparent misogyny displayed in your post—which, by contrast, is no petty matter.
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[QUOTE=StirB;2998766]I'm sorry if asking you to quote sources is bullying. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.[/QUOTE

Again, 4 "witnesses" whom Ford claimed attended the party all gave "SWORN STATEMENTS" that they never attended such a party and Ford's friend went on to swear that she never met Kavanaugh.

Sworn statements, if false, are subject to perjury proceedings. And so here is a left leaning CNBC article for your reference:

Please reference Section 1621:

Section 1621 covers general perjury, and stipulates that anyone who "willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true" is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years, or both. Section 1001 covers false statements more generally, without requiring an oath. The section stipulates that "whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the government of the United States, knowingly and willfully" falsifies or conceals information, including before a congressional committee's inquiry, may also be fined or imprisoned up to five years.
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I'm sorry if asking you to quote sources is bullying. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
I am surprised you fail to do research!!
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