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Old 06.10.2018, 16:43
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I would say getting behind an unproven accusation of sexual assault because you don't like a person's politics is about as unethical as you can get.


Who said I was behind an unproven accusation of sexual assault?


I don't like his track record: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-record-675294


He'd like to put into reverse much of the progress the US has made in abortion rights, medical rights, employee rights and even supports funding religious schools. He's also a big baby and can't handle himself well when he's under pressure.


That's why I don't like him.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Kavanaugh should have reacted better and not put up a fight, thus giving weight to the unproven accusations and leaving him unfit for the job in the eyes of the Democrats.

Or, he should of stood up for himself and reacted emotionally to the unproven accusations which have now dragged his name through the mud , thus leaving him unfit for the job in the eyes of the Democrats.
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Old 06.10.2018, 19:49
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Murkowski has said she'll vote present instead of no, "pairing" her vote with Daines who cannot be there. The outcome would therefore be 50-48, assuming no other senators change their minds.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mur...ghters-wedding

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...r-to-colleague
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Murkowski has said she'll vote present instead of no, "pairing" her vote with Daines who cannot be there. The outcome would therefore be 50-48, assuming no other senators change their minds.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mur...ghters-wedding

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...r-to-colleague
That's a shame. I was incredibly impressed with her resolve.
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Old 06.10.2018, 20:56
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That's a shame. I was incredibly impressed with her resolve.
I have to agree, and I wonder if she was backed into a corner by the party leadership. Surely the Rs could wait for Daimes to get to Washington on Monday after enjoying his daughter's wedding over the weekend?

I'm guessing the leadership is a bit paranoid and feels it is critical to vote now before anyone changes their minds. I would love to see Flake change his mind but I don't think it will happen.
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Old 06.10.2018, 21:18
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I have to agree, and I wonder if she was backed into a corner by the party leadership. Surely the Rs could wait for Daimes to get to Washington on Monday after enjoying his daughter's wedding over the weekend?

I'm guessing the leadership is a bit paranoid and feels it is critical to vote now before anyone changes their minds. I would love to see Flake change his mind but I don't think it will happen.
Quite why they wanted to have the vote on a Saturday escapes me.

Even the American Bar Association seems to be turning against Kav and not due to the sexual assault allegations.

He simply does not seem to be the sort of person one would want as a Supreme Court justice.

But it seems this is the sort of person the majority in the US want?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Big win for Trump.
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Who said I was behind an unproven accusation of sexual assault?
That’s not what I said. You were referring to Trump’s “slimy, dishonest and unethical politics”, and I was merely comparing it to deeply unethical tactics that have been used to try and stop Kavanaugh getting the job.
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Big win for Trump.
Indeed:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45774174

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Kavanaugh should go out and celebrate with a beer.
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Old 06.10.2018, 23:08
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Kavanaugh should go out and celebrate with a keg of beer.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump's comment: "I think the last week was really productive" re FBI investigations. Makes me wonder whether they, Republicans, will go after Dr Ford regarding lapses in her testimony. How else to regain credibility for Kavanaugh?
Note: Dr Ford and her counsel were asked 3x to provide notes regarding her polygraph and therapy sessions. Dr Ford/her counsel failed to produce these notes and yet shared them with a WaPo journalist. Hmmm indeed...
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Old 07.10.2018, 00:12
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Trump's comment: "I think the last week was really productive" re FBI investigations. Makes me wonder whether they, Republicans, will go after Dr Ford regarding lapses in her testimony. How else to regain credibility for Kavanaugh?
Note: Dr Ford and her counsel were asked 3x to provide notes regarding her polygraph and therapy sessions. Dr Ford/her counsel failed to produce these notes and yet shared them with a WaPo journalist. Hmmm indeed...
How do you believe Republicans will be able to go after Dr Ford when Congress is unable to order police/FBI investigations?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Who knows! But we shall see... I found Trump's comment compelling as was the line of questioning by the special prosecutor. The question is: why did Dr Ford share notes re: her therapist along with polygraph to WaPo for the initial article and then not submit them to the Senate Judiciary? Ask yourself why would she/her counsel would not submit this "evidence" but reveal them to a news outlet? Something is amiss here. I suspect Republicans knew about the ex boyfriend's statement ahead of time and were trying to force Ford into a trap (which, if true, she fell into!) But then again, I could be wrong Marton

Time will tell...
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How do you believe Republicans will be able to go after Dr Ford when Congress is unable to order police/FBI investigations?
I wouldn't be too concerned about terrifisch's pronouncements on anything legal. She's proven repeatedly that she has a hard time comprehending the basics of the law.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well he's confirmed now, 50-48. I commend Senator Murkowski (R-AK) for changing her vote to present in a deal with the Senator from Montana so he could walk his daughter down the aisle. That is *true class*. Something that's been sorely lacking towards the end of the hearings for Judge Kavanaugh.

That some of you think his temperament is off after the character assassination this man has been subjected to by the Left is a sign of your lack of belief in innocent till proven guilty, the foundation of Anglo-Saxon law. He has been accused without any proof by a variety of characters conjured by insincere senators. lawyers, and various bottom feeders. The media has taken every accusation as a certified judgement. May I remind you that despite whatever the harpies of #metoo may claim, 20 accusations of rape or sexual harrassement don't make an innocent man (or woman) a terrible person. I know you if you live on Twitter that seems to be so passé, but I still stick to the rule of law, and you should be profoundly ashamed of yourselves. That we're losing editors of book journals for speaking out against this trend is a sign our society is in deep decline and it's entirely to blame on the current wave of insane feminists.

As to the consequence of all this, I'll be back on the 6th of November, just to gloat. This media circus of importing all the badness of Title IX "rape prosecutions" from US campus (thanks Obama!) into plain sight on a Senate committee means the GOP base is now energized like they probably wouldn't have been had there been no such mess. Clears signs of this are that Senator Manchin voted yes because his electors (not his base) would throw him out otherwise. That blue wave? More like a red ripple.

And make no mistake, GOP women detested this spectacle and they will vote against anyone who had a hand in this mess. The sisterhood is divided, and will never be united by these tactics. So long lefties! Trump marches on...
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I can unterstand that some people may have a problem with Kavangha. To be honest, I'm not really convinced of him myself.

But this debate should have been about his qualities or otherwise as a judge. It should have been about legal technicalities and understanding of the law.

By bringing up this whole sexual thing, any hope of reasonable on topic debate was drowned out.

I hope the Dem strategists who masterminded the whole campaign against him will be taking a long look in the mirror.
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Former Yale Law School Dean Robert Post slammed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh for stoking “the fires of partisan rage and male entitlement".

“Kavanaugh will inevitably become the focus of distrust and mobilization.
His very presence will undermine the court’s claim to legitimacy; it will damage the nation’s commitment to the rule of law.
It will be an American tragedy,” he added.
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One of the fascinating aspects of all this is the number of people who bleat on about "lack of belief in innocent till proven guilty" but are quite happy to blame the Dems when there is not a shred of supporting evidence.
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One of the fascinating aspects of all this is the number of people who bleat on about "lack of belief in innocent till proven guilty" but are quite happy to blame the Dems when there is not a shred of supporting evidence.
And the electioneering platform was used extensively and rather hysterically to call for Hilary Clinton to go directly to prison, IIRC.

All the screaming banshees chanting in their thousands ‘lock her up’ seem to be suffering from selective amnesia when the boot is on the other foot.

Chronic hypocrisy is now a mainstay of modern politics. How embarrassing.
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