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08.10.2018, 22:22
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Note to you: Avenatti is a slime ball | | | | | Fact or opinion? If fact, please show your working. | Quote: | |  | | | He/Avenaatti has - in effect, according to many Dems, undercut Ford's statement and helped Kavanaugh secure the nomination. | | | | | Fact or opinion? If fact, please show your working.
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08.10.2018, 22:54
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Of course, the Dems are desperate to turn the failure away from themselves and blame anybody who is not a Dem official representative. A valuable side benefit is to damage a possible unofficial Presidential candidate.
You bleated on about "innocent until proven guilty" then you claim I embraced Swetnik without a shred of supporting evidence 
In fact I have never once posted the name Swetnik in any EF post!!
You are simply trolling for attention! | | | | | Wrong again Marton! But I note on this political thread, there is a trend to cut down those who advocate a different view. I am not trolling as you would say. But I feel as though my view- because it differs from yours and many others on this thread, is being shut down. Therein lies the difference. It is very easy to shut down all who do not concur and render them speechless. Is that what this forum is really about? I am beginning to wonder...
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08.10.2018, 23:08
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Enlighten me, 22 yards how Avenatti is credible when Dems now BLAME him for Kavanugh's successful nomination? I note your comment "palpably proven causes"! Wow if I had any red blobs to give you I would... But since I do not concur with your political views, you can issue them to me at will - effectively bullying those who do not subscribe to your view. And you accuse me of partisanship?? As if you and Marton are objective?
Note to you: Avenatti is a slime ball as is his unreliable witness, Swetnick, whom you and Marton so willingly embraced. He/Avenaatti has - in effect, according to many Dems, undercut Ford's statement and helped Kavanaugh secure the nomination. But please give me more red blobs as you are quick to note other's errors but fail to detail your own lapses...PS I could give a toss re "popularity" and my lack thereof. But I disdain "herd mentality" as evidenced on this thread.
This forum should be an open discussion and respectful.
FYI...this from a liberal outlet, CNN (which should excite you and Marton!) I try and understand both sides of the argument. Do you? https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/06/p...ion/index.html | | | | | You are shrilly hilarious. You have no idea of my political leanings. (I'll help you out a little: I come from a country where your American notions of "the left" and "the right" mean nothing, and where people tend to vote on issues rather than along party lines—and for your Information, I have never in my life voted for a candidate from what you would call "the left". It's Trump I find repugnant, not the GOP, and in any case Trump is about as far from Republican as you can get—as expected, given his harlequin political history.)
Who are these "Dems" who now blame Avenatti for Kavenaugh's appointment? (By the way, you really should learn how to use big words properly. So far, you've failed miserably with "impeachment" and "nomination", unless of course you are suggesting that Avenatti somehow caused Trump to propose Kavanaugh as a Justice of the Supreme Court.)
No, you haven't noted my comment "palpably proven causes", because that's not what I wrote. So now you need to add basic comprehension and accurate quoting to the list of items for you to brush up on. I wrote: | Quote: | |  | | | ... even when they have palpably provable cases | | | | | You got one word out of three right.  And as is obvious to any reader with a little intelligence, the palpably provable case I was referring to was that of Donald Trump's pay-off of Stormy Daniels.
Next, when have I ever expressed any opinion about Swetnick? Please be so good as to show me the posts. And while you're doing that, feel free to detail the "lapses" you seem to think I have committed.
You wrote, "I could give a toss re "popularity" and my lack thereof". Indeed, I can see that, it troubles you greatly, and the fact that you don't understand what I mean by this sentence further underscores my previous point about comprehension.
"This forum should be an open discussion and respectful"—I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I'm looking forward to your open and respectful posts, going forward.
But if not, please keep getting your knickers in a twist. It's so much fun to watch!
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08.10.2018, 23:15
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | You are shrilly hilarious. You have no idea of my political leanings. (I'll help you out a little: I come from a country where your American notions of "the left" and "the right" mean nothing, and where people tend to vote on issues rather than along party lines—and for your Information, I have never in my life voted for a candidate from what you would call "the left". It's Trump I find repugnant, not the GOP, and in any case Trump is about as far from Republican as you can get—as expected, given his harlequin political history.)
Who are these "Dems" who now blame Avenatti for Kavenaugh's appointment? (By the way, you really should learn how to use big words properly. So far, you've failed miserably with "impeachment" and "nomination", unless of course you are suggesting that Avenatti somehow caused Trump to propose Kavanaugh as a Justice of the Supreme Court.)
No, you haven't noted my comment "palpably proven causes", because that's not what I wrote. So now you need to add basic comprehension and accurate quoting to the list of items for you to brush up on. I wrote:
You got one word out of three right.  And as is obvious to any reader with a little intelligence, the palpably provable case I was referring to was that of Donald Trump's pay-off of Stormy Daniels.
Next, when have I ever expressed any opinion about Swetnick? Please be so good as to show me the posts. And while you're doing that, feel free to detail the "lapses" you seem to think I have committed.
You wrote, "I could give a toss re "popularity" and my lack thereof". Indeed, I can see that, it troubles you greatly, and the fact that you don't understand what I mean by this sentence further underscores my previous point about comprehension.
"This forum should be an open discussion and respectful"—I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I'm looking forward to your open and respectful posts, going forward.
But if not, please keep getting your knickers in a twist. It's so much fun to watch! | | | | | Keep bullying 22yards..It is the one area in which you clearly excel!
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08.10.2018, 23:23
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | You are shrilly hilarious. You have no idea of my political leanings. (I'll help you out a little: I come from a country where your American notions of "the left" and "the right" mean nothing, and where people tend to vote on issues rather than along party lines—and for your Information, I have never in my life voted for a candidate from what you would call "the left". It's Trump I find repugnant, not the GOP, and in any case Trump is about as far from Republican as you can get—as expected, given his harlequin political history.)
Who are these "Dems" who now blame Avenatti for Kavenaugh's appointment? (By the way, you really should learn how to use big words properly. So far, you've failed miserably with "impeachment" and "nomination", unless of course you are suggesting that Avenatti somehow caused Trump to propose Kavanaugh as a Justice of the Supreme Court.)
No, you haven't noted my comment "palpably proven causes", because that's not what I wrote. So now you need to add basic comprehension and accurate quoting to the list of items for you to brush up on. I wrote:
You got one word out of three right.  And as is obvious to any reader with a little intelligence, the palpably provable case I was referring to was that of Donald Trump's pay-off of Stormy Daniels.
Next, when have I ever expressed any opinion about Swetnick? Please be so good as to show me the posts. And while you're doing that, feel free to detail the "lapses" you seem to think I have committed.
You wrote, "I could give a toss re "popularity" and my lack thereof". Indeed, I can see that, it troubles you greatly, and the fact that you don't understand what I mean by this sentence further underscores my previous point about comprehension.
"This forum should be an open discussion and respectful"—I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I'm looking forward to your open and respectful posts, going forward.
But if not, please keep getting your knickers in a twist. It's so much fun to watch! | | | | | PS Your political leanings and partisanship are fairly obvious given your commentary. But keep going. I too find this amusing... That you claim you are objective! What a laugh/joke!!
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08.10.2018, 23:33
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Keep bullying 22yards..It is the one area in which you clearly excel! | | | | | Stunning comeback. I'm lost for words. | Quote: | |  | | | PS Your political leanings and partisanship are fairly obvious given your commentary. But keep going. I too find this amusing... That you claim you are objective! What a laugh/joke!! | | | | | Perhaps you should read the post that you just quoted. It seems you didn't understand my ever-so-subtle hint about my political leanings.
When have I ever claimed to be objective? I thought I made my subjective opinions on Trump pretty clear in my last post.
Are you going to answer any of the questions I raised, or is this going to devolve into a repeat of the "swearing under oath" fiasco?
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09.10.2018, 00:51
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | PS Your political leanings and partisanship are fairly obvious given your commentary. But keep going. I too find this amusing... That you claim you are objective! What a laugh/joke!! | | | | | You posted "Swetnick, whom you [22 yards] and Marton so willingly embraced."
Neither 22 yards nor I have ever posted about Swetnick!
So now it is time for you to withdraw your post about Swetnick.
BTW, I am also not objective.
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09.10.2018, 01:45
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I don't blame Avenatti, this is the old guard Democrats blaming others desperate to protect their base against the Progressive Movement.
I blame people career politicians, like Collins. What Collins did to women is despicable. She played to her base at the expense of the womens' movement. SHE MOCKED Christine Blaset Ford and women like her, she swept the platform from under the Me Too movement.
The truth is is that many men of Kavanugh's entitled club have a ' it's just high testosterone locker room spirits' attitude when it comes to sexual or physical attacks on women, or worse still attacks on girls. If Kavanaugh was black or poor the verdict would be different. Cosby got caught, Kavanaigh didn't, Cosby will still probably get a light sentence due to his money and influence. Money, colour, class talks
Feinstein played her hand badly in the game of politics. She must go.
The charges against Kavanaugh could not be proved, what was proved was that there was doubt, and that this doubt about his character was reinforced by his vile rhetoric under questioning. His demeanor is unbecoming of a judge of any court, but especially not of the Supreme Court of the most powerful country in the world.
And that is why Collins should have followed brave Republican senator Lisa Murkowski from Alaska and voted NO!
It is shocking, the U.S. is being governed by a Mad Hatter's Tea Party. It is all a charade, a sham sh show to dupe the ignorant populace while all democratic and civil rights are eroded and power put firmly in the hands of the top 1%. Even Democrats like Collins are out to save their own necks and tread on the most vulnerable members of society, to turn her back on the disadvantaged sex merely to retain position.
It is painful, humiliating, shameful, despicable, unconscionable. Collins must go!
Watch for January, I led the Womens Oakland March onto the stage last year. I will again join the womens' January march. This debauchery has to stop. The figure of Justice is a women for a reason, it is time all woke and answered the call. As Prudentia she hold a mirror and a snake, as Justice the scales and a sword. So it is time to look in the mirror, feel the snake, chop of its head and lay it on the balance of crimes against women.
Like Ruth Ginsberg quoted
" True to fiery form, Ginsburg starts off the trailer with a take-no-prisoners quote from 19th-century feminist and abolitionist Sarah Grimké. "I ask no favor for my sex," she gravely intones. "All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.”
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09.10.2018, 07:32
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | ...Even Democrats like Collins are out to save their own necks and tread on the most vulnerable members of society, to turn her back on the disadvantaged sex merely to retain position... | | | | | I agree with most of what you said, but the fact is that Susan Collins is
A) Republican, although quite moderate by today's standards, and
B) not up for re-election
She didn't need to save her neck. She could have stuck it out for principle and voted no. There are probably dozens of other judges that would be suited to sit on the Supreme Court, so it's not like this nominee was the best candidate ever and they had to have him.
However, now she's going to become a target for the Democrats in 2020. Fine, but it's going to be another circus side show that detracts from other important issues.
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09.10.2018, 07:45
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WTAF?!!!! | Quote: |  | | | Trump apologises to Kavanaugh over 'unfair' treatment President Donald Trump has apologised to his new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh for what he described as a "campaign of lies" during the confirmation hearings.
He was referring to the acrimonious debate over Mr Kavanaugh's nomination, after sexual assault allegations were made against him. | | | | | https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45793524
So now the POTUS is judge and jury?
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09.10.2018, 07:55
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Well, a couple of opinion pieces sure showed me the facts.
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09.10.2018, 07:59
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Perhaps you should read the post that you just quoted. It seems you didn't understand my ever-so-subtle hint about my political leanings. | | | | | Or perhaps you should stop feeding the troll ...
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09.10.2018, 08:02
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Are you forgetting the FBI investigation? This would never end up before a court because there is no case to answer.
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09.10.2018, 08:04
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Are you forgetting the FBI investigation? This would never end up before a court because there is no case to answer. | | | | | The 5 day, limited investigation? There are plenty of arguments for not impugning the character of Kavanaugh (at least in terms of sexual misdeeds), but we both know the FBI 'investigation' was nothing more than a sop for optics' sake.
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09.10.2018, 08:20
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | The 5 day, limited investigation? There are plenty of arguments for not impugning the character of Kavanaugh (at least in terms of sexual misdeeds), but we both know the FBI 'investigation' was nothing more than a sop for optics' sake. | | | | | We both know nothing because the results of the investigation haven't been published. What I will say though is that when the FBI investigate Trump they're wonderful, when they investigate Kavanaugh they're bent. Besides, how long does one need to investigate something where the alleged victim doesn't know when it took place, doesn't know where it took place, doesn't remember any of the details and every witness that's been provided has said that her story isn't true?
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09.10.2018, 08:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | We both know nothing because the results of the investigation haven't been published. What I will say though is that when FBI investigate Trump they're wonderful, when they investigate Kavanaugh they're bent. Besides, how long does one need to investigate something where the alleged victim doesn't know when it took place, doesn't know where it took place, doesn't remember any of the details and every witness that's been provided has said that her story isn't true? | | | | | The FBI investigation was not bent, it was "limited".
None of the witnesses said "her story isn't true" and if they did they would not be credible because they could not possibly know if her story was not true. They did say they could not confirm her story but that is a very long way from saying her story was not true!
There were three alleged victims (now four) and the FBI were only allowed to investigate two of them.
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09.10.2018, 08:35
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
“President Trump would need a magic wand to get to 4% GDP,” stated President Obama. I guess I have a magic wand, 4.2%, and we will do MUCH better than this! We have just begun.
4:42 PM - 10 Sep 2018 | | | | | Whereas the IMF forecast is much lower due to Trump's trade war. | Quote: |  | | | Despite healthy momentum in the United States, which received a boost from recent tax cuts, IMF economists now expect growth to slow to 2.5% next year from 2.9% this year. | | | | | Source
The September quarter GDP figure should be published before the midterms; will it be up or down!
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09.10.2018, 08:36
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | We both know nothing because the results of the investigation haven't been published. What I will say though is that when the FBI investigate Trump they're wonderful, when they investigate Kavanaugh they're bent. Besides, how long does one need to investigate something where the alleged victim doesn't know when it took place, doesn't know where it took place, doesn't remember any of the details and every witness that's been provided has said that her story isn't true? | | | | | I'm more of the opinion that when the FBI are allowed to do their job, independently, that's great. Whether it is investigating Hillary's emails or Trump's shady practices or Kavanaugh's wandering willy. The important thing in each case surely has to be that they are given time and resource to follow things through to their natural conclusion, not set unrealistic deadlines that don't allow even basic things like the contacting of all witnesses and accusers.
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09.10.2018, 08:56
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Are you forgetting the FBI investigation? This would never end up before a court because there is no case to answer. | | | | | Is it fitting for the office of POTUS to comment in such a manner regarding this? It's a contentious issue at best, and when I think of the issues where the POTUS has said nothing, to comment on this feels incredibly wrong.
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