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Old 09.10.2018, 09:00
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Is it fitting for the office of POTUS to comment in such a manner regarding this? It's a contentious issue at best, and when I think of the issues where the POTUS has said nothing, to comment on this feels incredibly wrong.
But also incredibly on-message for Trump.
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Is it fitting for the office of POTUS to comment in such a manner regarding this? It's a contentious issue at best, and when I think of the issues where the POTUS has said nothing, to comment on this feels incredibly wrong.
Why not? What happened over the last weeks was unprecedented. This man came close to having his entire career and reputation left in ruin. His family has also been dragged through the mud.
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Old 09.10.2018, 09:15
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Why not? What happened over the last weeks was unprecedented. This man came close to having his entire career and reputation left in ruin. His family has also been dragged through the mud.
Not unprecedented.
As just one example out of many read about Clarence Thomas!

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Old 09.10.2018, 09:34
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Besides, how long does one need to investigate something where the alleged victim doesn't know when it took place, doesn't know where it took place, doesn't remember any of the details and every witness that's been provided has said that her story isn't true?
I don't know if the claims are true or false, but what I will say is, I was assaulted twice in roughly the same time scale as this is alleged to have occured (I'm going back to 1981 and 1983.) With the first assault, it was someone I'd met for the first time that night, yet I remember his name and all the details. With the second, even though it was someone I'd worked with for a couple of months, I can't remember his name. On both occassions, there were a number of witnesses who intervened.

I seriously don't believe my first attacker would remember the incident as it was one of many for him (he'd probably only remember the one where he got stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle), and I believe the second guy would only remember because he was sacked for it.

Listening to the Professor's testimony, I found it utterly and entirely plausible that bits were ingrained in her memory, and other details have entirely gone.

With my first assault, it was New Year's Eve so I can easily remember the date. I remember every single item of clothing I was wearing, right down to piping along the neckline of the top and detailing on the shoes. With the second, I haven't got a clue, possibly because I'd dressed for work rather than for a night out. As for the date, a Saturday night in Nov-Dec 1983 is the best answer I could give, but a full investigation could deduce the date from employment records.

Calling Professor Ford's testimony 'lies' after a 5 day investigation, is utter and complete bollocks! For the POTUS to chime in is unacceptable of the office. It's completely despicable.
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Old 09.10.2018, 09:46
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Are you forgetting the FBI investigation? This would never end up before a court because there is no case to answer.
you know, your pattern is you pop in, post some BS, usually about fake news, get called out on it and slink away, but I'm still buzzing from an awesome weekend so I'm inclined to give you another chance.


You seem to think, or more likely pretend to do, that the FBI investigation was credible rather than a sop. So justify please an investigation where
1. The alleged victim was not interviewed nor the alleged perpetrator
2. Witnesses who went out of their way to try and be interviewed were not.


Answer us that, or slink away as usual.
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you know, your pattern is you pop in, post some BS, usually about fake news, get called out on it and slink away, but I'm still buzzing from an awesome weekend so I'm inclined to give you another chance.


You seem to think, or more likely pretend to do, that the FBI investigation was credible rather than a sop. So justify please an investigation where
1. The alleged victim was not interviewed nor the alleged perpetrator
2. Witnesses who went out of their way to try and be interviewed were not.


Answer us that, or slink away as usual.
Yup. The White House controlled Kavanaugh investigation did not interview Dr. Ford, Kavanaugh, dozens of other sources who came forward, and is releasing no details publically.

The larger context is our confessed sexual predator President mocked Al Franken and the Dems when they took sexual misconduct seriously and acted accordingly. The White House actively concealed Rob Porters domestic abuse for over a year, and very reluctantly let him go. They brought on Bill Shine to help run the comms team for the Kavanaugh confirmation, who was previously fired from Fox News for decades of covering up sexual harassment and racial discrimination.

If you think this severely curtailed investigation was handled in good faith, you have a few screws loose.
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Old 09.10.2018, 10:41
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If the forum really cared about 'trolling' they have banned Marxton several times by now wouldn't they?

Of course it's an echo chamber - but that makes it all the more fun when they're left scratching their heads 'how could this happen?'
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If the forum really cared about 'trolling' they have banned Marxton several times by now wouldn't they?

Of course it's an echo chamber - but that makes it all the more fun when they're left scratching their heads 'how could this happen?'
To be fair, you don't get banned for your views you get banned for being an obnoxious dickhead about them. There's a difference, and if you'd learned it perhaps you wouldn't have ended up having to put so much effort into coming back with your various guises.
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See you in November!
I doubt it, but look forward to seeing your next alt then, Kriss Kross
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Old 09.10.2018, 11:35
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you know, your pattern is you pop in, post some BS, usually about fake news, get called out on it and slink away, but I'm still buzzing from an awesome weekend so I'm inclined to give you another chance.

You seem to think, or more likely pretend to do, that the FBI investigation was credible rather than a sop. So justify please an investigation where
1. The alleged victim was not interviewed nor the alleged perpetrator
2. Witnesses who went out of their way to try and be interviewed were not.

Answer us that, or slink away as usual.
Ooooh, you must really be feeling the butthurt bad. But while we're here, let's remind ourselves of what you said about an FBI investigation before it happened:

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Why would you not insist the FBI investigate if you have nothing to hide? why would you ask for an FBI investigation if you were lying?
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Totally agree, this is the only scenario I can think of where an FBI investigation would not be welcome, so unless someone has some credible explanation we are faced with the situation where the republicans know a sexual abuser sits before them but 'ah feck it, lets just vote on him anyway' They disgust me.
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Someone nominated to a lifetime role who cannot be removed has been accused of a serious attack, he has everything to gain by lying about it, his accuser has very much to lose by telling the truth. the choices as I see it are
1. Ignore her
2. Say the stakes are too high, lets take a break, delay the nomination and investigate, if the accusations are groundless we only lost some time.
Now they've held the investigation, and you don't like the result, you're going after the investigation itself. A pattern of behaviour we are seeing all too often from people like you. Don't worry, I won't be slinking away any time soon, watching you turning yourself in knots because you're unable to accept Trump is too good for words.
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Old 09.10.2018, 11:42
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Not unprecedented.
As just one example out of many read about Clarence Thomas!

You do like to troll don't you?
Yes marton, unprecedented. And I'd rather be a troll, than a bore like you.
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Old 09.10.2018, 11:52
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WTAF?!!!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45793524


So now the POTUS is judge and jury?
Yep. And when he is on holidays, it's now Kavanaugh

He apologized on behalf of the nation?

Kavanaugh was not proven innocent. It was insufficient evidence. If I were Kavanaugh I would not like this fact.

However, it's done, it's over. Move on everybody.
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...Now they've held the investigation...
That's where your logic falls down. By any reasonable definition that is not what they have had.
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That's where your logic falls down. By any reasonable definition that is not what they have had.
Says who? Are you more qualified than the FBI now? Have you seen the report?
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Says who? Are you more qualified than the FBI now? Have you seen the report?
Trying to justify that sham as anything more than a sideshow damages your already wafer thin credibility on here Loz. Just be honest and admit 5 days isn't enough time to even contact all involved, never mind run a forensic investigation.
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Trying to justify that sham as anything more than a sideshow damages your already wafer thin credibility on here Loz. Just be honest and admit 5 days isn't enough time to even contact all involved, never mind run a forensic investigation.
Have you read the report?
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Have you read the report?
Grow up, and stop being so partisan mate, it's boring AF.
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Grow up, and stop being so partisan mate, it's boring AF.
Me partisan? I'm not the one saying that the FBI are bent.
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I doubt it, but look forward to seeing your next alt then, Kriss Kross
Did I miss something? KK was banned? where is my fun going to come from now?
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Me partisan? I'm not the one saying that the FBI are bent.
Honestly, please read preceding posts before spouting lies...here's one from today you neglected to reply to, as it made you look foolish back then and has come back to make you look even more foolish now...

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I'm more of the opinion that when the FBI are allowed to do their job, independently, that's great. Whether it is investigating Hillary's emails or Trump's shady practices or Kavanaugh's wandering willy. The important thing in each case surely has to be that they are given time and resource to follow things through to their natural conclusion, not set unrealistic deadlines that don't allow even basic things like the contacting of all witnesses and accusers.
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