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09.10.2018, 13:00
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Did I miss something? KK was banned? where is my fun going to come from now? | | | | | Don't worry, he has a new alt for every day of the week!
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09.10.2018, 13:04
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Honestly, please read preceding posts before spouting lies...here's one from today you neglected to reply to, as it made you look foolish back then and has come back to make you look even more foolish now... | | | | | Yeah, besides implying that the FBI weren't allowed to do their job independently, you also said this: | Quote: |  | | | The 5 day, limited investigation? There are plenty of arguments for not impugning the character of Kavanaugh (at least in terms of sexual misdeeds), but we both know the FBI 'investigation' was nothing more than a sop for optics' sake. | | | | | Who's looking foolish now?
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09.10.2018, 13:12
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, besides implying that the FBI weren't allowed to do their job independently... | | | | | It's nothing to do with being allowed to conduct the investigation independently or not - you've inferred what you wanted to there as my point was clearly a general one about how I would like the FBI to function - merely that in this case the limited timeframe did not facilitate a full investigation. | Quote: | |  | | | Who's looking foolish now? | | | | | It's still you, isn't it?
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09.10.2018, 13:50
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Ooooh, you must really be feeling the butthurt bad. But while we're here, let's remind ourselves of what you said about an FBI investigation before it happened:
And this beauty:
Now they've held the investigation, and you don't like the result, you're going after the investigation itself. A pattern of behaviour we are seeing all too often from people like you. Don't worry, I won't be slinking away any time soon, watching you turning yourself in knots because you're unable to accept Trump is too good for words. | | | | |
Loz I love you, I effing love you man, I called you out for ignoring requests to justify your comments so in an act of genius you brought me down by ignoring my request to justify your comments, mwaaah! you just made my day dude.
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09.10.2018, 13:54
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, besides implying that the FBI weren't allowed to do their job independently, you also said this:
Who's looking foolish now? | | | | | Still you mate*
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*Dammit Stirb already said this <shakes fist> gah!!
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09.10.2018, 16:21
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Today's rumour
"U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley has reportedly resigned from her role in the Trump administration."
No clue why? She was one of the few senior Trump administration members to stand up against Trump last year but she has been more "on message" this year.
Also rumoured recently she was under investigation for accepting flights in private jets but that was unlikely to be serious enough to be a resignation matter!
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09.10.2018, 16:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Today's rumour
"U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley has reportedly resigned from her role in the Trump administration." | | | | | Seems he's already found a replacement: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45800983
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09.10.2018, 16:30
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Today's rumour
"U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley has reportedly resigned from her role in the Trump administration."
No clue why? She was one of the few senior Trump administration members to stand up against Trump last year but she has been more "on message" this year.
Also rumoured recently she was under investigation for accepting flights in private jets but that was unlikely to be serious enough to be a resignation matter! | | | | | Rumour confirmed it seems. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45802828 | This user would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post: | | 
09.10.2018, 16:53
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | No clue why? | | | | | She wants to run for president in 2020 or 2024. I think it's a strategic decision to distance herself from Trump.
This gives her enough buffer room before the Mueller report is released or the Dems win a chamber of Congress and investigate his tax returns, child separation policy, Puerto Rico FEMA response, Kavanaugh confirmation, and etc.
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09.10.2018, 18:06
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | She wants to run for president in 2020 or 2024. I think it's a strategic decision to distance herself from Trump.
This gives her enough buffer room before the Mueller report is released or the Dems win a chamber of Congress and investigate his tax returns, child separation policy, Puerto Rico FEMA response, Kavanaugh confirmation, and etc. | | | | | She denied running for president
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09.10.2018, 18:43
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | She denied running for president | | | | | Yeah right, like that matters.......
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09.10.2018, 20:05
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Strange business, it is claimed neither Secretary of State Pompeo or White House national security adviser Bolton were told in advance about her resignation.
Clearly Haley has a plan; maybe one day it will be revealed?
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09.10.2018, 20:40
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Is it fitting for the office of POTUS to comment in such a manner regarding this? It's a contentious issue at best, and when I think of the issues where the POTUS has said nothing, to comment on this feels incredibly wrong. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Why not? What happened over the last weeks was unprecedented. This man came close to having his entire career and reputation left in ruin. His family has also been dragged through the mud. | | | | | It's not common, but then nothing about Trump's candidacy or presidency has been common. Expect the unexpected and all that.
Please stop with the drama.  As I said before, Kavanaugh's career was nowhere near ruin. Had he not been confirmed to SCOTUS, he would have remained a judge on an appellate court. Not a bad job all things considered.  I do see the point about dragging his reputation through the mud, but to be honest enough of his friends spoke up and his own calendars showed that he was hardly an Eagle Scout. His own behavior during testimony wasn't exactly worthy of the highest court in the land, imo. | Quote: | |  | | | Me partisan? I'm not the one saying that the FBI are bent. | | | | | Who says the FBI is bent? You do!! Many others (including me) feel that the FBI can do a good job, but they need the time and resources to do it.
In this case, and I think I said it before, I am not sure more time would have returned much of a different result. But the 5-day timeline and tying of hands leaves a bad impression as if there was something to hide, even if there wasn't.
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09.10.2018, 20:45
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It's not common, but then nothing about Trump's candidacy or presidency has been common. Expect the unexpected and all that. 
Please stop with the drama. As I said before, Kavanaugh's career was nowhere near ruin. Had he not been confirmed to SCOTUS, he would have remained a judge on an appellate court. Not a bad job all things considered. I do see the point about dragging his reputation through the mud, but to be honest enough of his friends spoke up and his own calendars showed that he was hardly an Eagle Scout. His own behavior during testimony wasn't exactly worthy of the highest court in the land, imo.
Who says the FBI is bent? You do!! Many others (including me) feel that the FBI can do a good job, but they need the time and resources to do it. | | | | | They would, most of all, first need the intention. Whether it is or isn't there is a question a pov, not actual "hard data" that so many claim they have.
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09.10.2018, 21:04
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Who says the FBI is bent? You do!! Many others (including me) feel that the FBI can do a good job, but they need the time and resources to do it.
In this case, and I think I said it before, I am not sure more time would have returned much of a different result. But the 5-day timeline and tying of hands leaves a bad impression as if there was something to hide, even if there wasn't. | | | | | Are you aware of the sheer resources the FBI has? And the amount of manpower they can summon when needed? This was also the sixth background investigation that they'd conducted on Kavanaugh. Each and every one of those extensive background checks has not found anything.
They asked all of those who Ford claimed had knowledge of the event, none said they had knowledge. They haven't found a single corroborating witness. Ford and Kavanaugh were questioned by Senate Judiciary Committee in front of the world. Are they supposed to interview every crackpot who comes forward with a political axe to grind or every Democrat voting former acquaintance of his who once saw him have a pint?
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09.10.2018, 22:29
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Are you aware of the sheer resources the FBI has? And the amount of manpower they can summon when needed? | | | | | Yes, but the scope and duration of this investigation was limited - perhaps even by the White House. Is that a truly independent and thorough investigation? I don't think so.
Yes, they've investigated him before prior to other judicial appointments but this was for the SCOTUS and was focused on the alleged sexual assault. I can't get my head around the idea that they did not interview the two primary people involved during those 5 days, when they have such vast resources. Now - was that because they weren't allowed to, they didn't want to, didn't feel it was needed, or what? No one knows. If this report is so amazeballs and enlightening, why is it being kept behind closed doors and only a few people can see it? Why not release the whole thing to the public instead of a summary? | Quote: | |  | | | ...Are they supposed to interview every crackpot who comes forward with a political axe to grind or every Democrat voting former acquaintance of his who once saw him have a pint? | | | | | No, and even you know that the scope was limited to "credible" claims. So your insinuation that Ford is simply a crackpot is off. And again you're bringing partisanship on behalf of the accusers into it, when there is no hard evidence of that either. Your double-standards are mind-boggling. | 
09.10.2018, 23:09
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Are you aware of the sheer resources the FBI has? And the amount of manpower they can summon when needed? This was also the sixth background investigation that they'd conducted on Kavanaugh. Each and every one of those extensive background checks has not found anything.
They asked all of those who Ford claimed had knowledge of the event, none said they had knowledge. They haven't found a single corroborating witness. Ford and Kavanaugh were questioned by Senate Judiciary Committee in front of the world. Are they supposed to interview every crackpot who comes forward with a political axe to grind or every Democrat voting former acquaintance of his who once saw him have a pint? | | | | | I love that your first post after I mocked you was still ignoring the points I challenged you to address, I could hug you. This is almost as good as when I made you look stupid for not knowing about Rosa Parks.
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09.10.2018, 23:33
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | "A piece of work". Generally, that term is used only pejoratively. I just read the whole article you linked and I fail to detect anything that backs your obvious disdain for Avenatti. Your right-wing bias is showing, very clearly. It's amusing to see those on the right flailing around at the emergence of a popular, strong Democrat with the guts to speak out and return the flak thrown at him.
There's a mention of the $10 million judgment against Avenatti's firm (not described as a bankruptcy). Is this what you think qualifies Avenatti as a "piece of work"? If so, maybe you should take a figurative step back and attempt to re-read the article objectively. Substitute the word "Trump" (oh, and throw in several bankruptcies and screwings-over of small businesses and individual contractors) for "Avenatti" and see how you interpret the article.  | | | | | Enlighten me 22 yards, how the dems now blame Avenatti for Kavanaugh's nomination as a "distraction"? But you believe he is a solid attorney? Wow! Think again... Mr.. "I live in another country, therefore I have no bias!" Really? You of all people claim to be objective?
Figure this out, I suspect Avenatti, just lost all donor support for any potential presidential bid he may have harbored. That is what he is all about or do you not get this? To quote you: "the emergence of a a popular (????) strong Democrat with the guts to speak out"... What a joke! And you do not see that Avenatti is all about Avenatti? The Dems hold him accountable for their loss and no one will support this guy. It is a lose/ lose for Avenatti but he rolled the dice and the democratic cause now suffers for his lapse/ego!
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09.10.2018, 23:43
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Enlighten me 22 yards, how the dems now blame Avenatti for Kavanaugh's nomination as a "distraction"? But you believe he is a solid attorney? Wow! Think again... Mr.. "I live in another country, therefore I have no bias!" Really? You of all people claim to be objective?
Figure this out, I suspect Avenatti, just lost all donor support for any potential presidential bid he may have harbored. That is what he is all about or do you not get this? To quote you: "the emergence of a a popular (????) strong Democrat with the guts to speak out"... What a joke! And you do not see that Avenatti is all about Avenatti? The Dems hold him accountable for their loss and no one will support this guy. It is a lose/ lose for Avenatti but he rolled the dice and the democratic cause now suffers for his lapse/ego! | | | | | "You [22 yards] of all people claim to be objective?" But 22 yards already clearly stated he is not objective?
So why do you keep incorrectly stating he claims to be objective?
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09.10.2018, 23:51
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It's not common, but then nothing about Trump's candidacy or presidency has been common. Expect the unexpected and all that. 
Please stop with the drama. As I said before, Kavanaugh's career was nowhere near ruin. Had he not been confirmed to SCOTUS, he would have remained a judge on an appellate court. Not a bad job all things considered. I do see the point about dragging his reputation through the mud, but to be honest enough of his friends spoke up and his own calendars showed that he was hardly an Eagle Scout. His own behavior during testimony wasn't exactly worthy of the highest court in the land, imo.
Who says the FBI is bent? You do!! Many others (including me) feel that the FBI can do a good job, but they need the time and resources to do it.
In this case, and I think I said it before, I am not sure more time would have returned much of a different result. But the 5-day timeline and tying of hands leaves a bad impression as if there was something to hide, even if there wasn't. | | | | |
But 3 Wishes...the caveat here which all should consider, is how much Kavenaugh could have made if he chose to go into private practice (millions more I believe...given his pedigree (Yale undergrad, Yale law). The average salary for an appellate judge is approximately $250,000 a year and sorry, this guy would have earned 3-4x that amount per annum going into private practice -particularly in DC ( an extremely expensive city in which to live). He chose differently and many would opt for the money... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa..._United_States |
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