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What should happen is that Dr. Ford should pursue her allegation and try and get Kavanaugh impeached. She won't though, because nothing has changed since day one of this circus, and there's still no way of proving that this incident happened.
That.

He's SCOTUS now and nothing can undo his election (or is it confirmation?). His impeachment, if it were to happen, would be far from the first, Wiki alone should be telling enough.
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Can't y'all just agree to disagree and bring on the next gory happening from Trump's presidency? I'm sure the news are piling up by now.
Looks like they're having way too much fun gang-banging Loz for that to happen.
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Old 10.10.2018, 16:34
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That's fair.

But you must admit you can not demand someone to admit to .... an opinion of your's. The most someone could do is to agree with an opinion of your's. And that should definitely not be forced.

Can't y'all just agree to disagree and bring on the next gory happening from Trump's presidency? I'm sure the news are piling up by now.
Demand? I never even threatened to stamp my feet

Next gory happening
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Despite so many positive events and victories, Media Reseach Center reports that 92% of stories on Donald Trump are negative on ABC, CBS and ABC. It is FAKE NEWS!
Don’t worry, the Failing New York Times didn’t even put the Brett Kavanaugh victory on the Front Page yesterday-A17!
Poor old guy is losing it!

Of course the New York Times didn’t put the Brett Kavanaugh victory on the Front Page yesterday; they reported it four days ago when it actually happened!

So Trump no longer knows which day it is?
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I did think you simply being obtuse, now I genuinely believe that you're simply a bit thick with a bit of a thing for me. Go and have a read of my posts in response to 3Wishes. And whilst you're there, go and look up the meaning of the Straw Man argument and Whataboutism, you may learn something.
now you're just being mean, I'm hurt.
So, you just used whatboutery as whataboutery, thats awesome. I hate to add to the pasting you are getting today, but you still haven't answered why you think this investigation was anything other than a sop when the FBI (note FBI, we're talking about the FBI, not the senate judiciary, but the Feds, the FBI remember) didn't question the alleged abuser, alleged victim or the many witnesses who tried to give them statements.


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Old 10.10.2018, 16:56
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It's not very clear at all, unless you've read the reports. A background check could involve interviews with neighbours, colleagues etc. for high security clearances this is normal.
So you are posting your Wiki link that you posted here is incorrect because it does not include interviews as part of the background check process?
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What the ....!
"ABC, CBS and ABC."
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Old 10.10.2018, 17:02
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What should happen is that Dr. Ford should pursue her allegation and try and get Kavanaugh impeached. She won't though, because nothing has changed since day one of this circus, and there's still no way of proving that this incident happened.
Why should that happen?
It was clear from day one that that the objective was to demonstrate Kav was unsuitable for the job. This objective was reached by Kav himself at his Senate Review but the GOP voted for him anyway?
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Old 10.10.2018, 17:05
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What the ....!
"ABC, CBS and ABC."
I suppose ABC must be twice as bad as they get hit twice?
Once more Spanky defines fake news as news that is negative about him; regardless if it is true
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Old 10.10.2018, 18:03
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Despite so many positive events and victories, Media Reseach Center reports that 92% of stories on Donald Trump are negative on ABC, CBS and ABC. It is FAKE NEWS! Don’t worry, the Failing New York Times didn’t even put the Brett Kavanaugh victory on the Front Page yesterday-A17!

3:01 PM - 10 Oct 2018
BTW in case you believe the Media Reseach Center is some sort of objective organisation!
Its stated mission is to "expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media."
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I could not find this Media Reseach Center report on their site; probably Trump just invented it?
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'this was the sixth FBI background investigation of Kavanaugh since 1993'

wow- as they say, there is rarely so much smoke without fire then?
Open goal alert.

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Why should that happen?
It was clear from day one that that the objective was to demonstrate Kav was unsuitable for the job. This objective was reached by Kav himself at his Senate Review but the GOP voted for him anyway?
It wasn't reached because Kavanaugh got voted in. A criminal prosecution would at least add some integrity to her accusation rather than the political stunt which it appears to be at the moment.

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So you are posting your Wiki link that you posted here is incorrect because it does not include interviews as part of the background check process?
Seriously?
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now you're just being mean, I'm hurt.
So, you just used whatboutery as whataboutery, thats awesome. I hate to add to the pasting you are getting today, but you still haven't answered why you think this investigation was anything other than a sop when the FBI (note FBI, we're talking about the FBI, not the senate judiciary, but the Feds, the FBI remember) didn't question the alleged abuser, alleged victim or the many witnesses who tried to give them statements.


p.s. the most hurtful thing was saying I had a thing for you, how dare you sir, I am very happily married.
Are you married to StirB per chance?
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Old 10.10.2018, 20:56
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Open goal alert.

It wasn't reached because Kavanaugh got voted in. A criminal prosecution would at least add some integrity to her accusation rather than the political stunt which it appears to be at the moment.

Seriously?
It was a job interview requiring references, never a criminal case.

You think everybody who failed to influence a job interview should go for a criminal prosecution as a follow up action?
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Are you married to StirB per chance?
Answer the question.
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Old 10.10.2018, 21:30
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As far as we know the White House didn't block the interviews. From the failing New York Times:

White House Tells F.B.I. to Interview Anyone Necessary for Kavanaugh Inquiry
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FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday during a Senate hearing that the bureau's background investigation into Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was limited in scope

The FBI head declined to say who at the bureau had made the decision to not interview Kavanaugh, his accuser Christine Blasey Ford or other potential witnesses as part of the investigation.

He also declined to say whether the FBI looked into allegations that Kavanaugh had lied during his testimony before Congress.
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The confidential [Kav] report was made available to senators last week. Some Democrats [Senators] claimed the FBI did not contact an adequate number of witnesses about the sexual assault allegations.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Dow currently in melt down, over 750 points down - nearing all time records.
Will it recover before close of business or continue sliding.
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Old 10.10.2018, 22:06
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BTW in case you believe the Media Reseach Center is some sort of objective organisation!
Its stated mission is to "expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media."
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I could not find this Media Reseach Center report on their site; probably Trump just invented it?
You didn't look very hard, maybe?
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Good find, thanks.

Next question , did you find out how they define "negative"?
Seems to be a critical point?
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Good find, thanks.

Next question , did you find out how they define "negative"?
Seems to be a critical point?
Read it. It is indeed interesting.



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Answer the question.
Or what? You start the waterboarding?
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The Stock Market just reached an All-Time High during my Administration for the 102nd Time, a presidential record, by far, for less than two years. So much potential as Trade and Military Deals are completed.

3:04 PM - 3 Oct 2018
What a difference a week makes.

Now DOW 5% down since 3rd October, 830 points down today.
Nasdaq down by nearly 8%, over 4% today.

Trump needs to give up on his trade wars
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Read it. It is indeed interesting.

Or what? You start the waterboarding?
I did read it.

They label a lot of news as negative but they fail to say why they view it as negative, also a key point they do not label anything as actually untrue so negative not fake?

Some examples of negative news;
They say the news should cover the potential for higher wages for American workers but so far that wage increase has not happened; anyway newspapers are supposed to report news that happened - not what might happen?

NBC News Korean Affairs analyst Victor Cha, who declared: “If the President is saying one thing, but the intelligence is showing something else, it’s hard to believe that the diplomacy is working.”
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It was a job interview requiring references, never a criminal case.

You think everybody who failed to influence a job interview should go for a criminal prosecution as a follow up action?
I have a real problem with the claim that this was just a "job interview"... If we follow that line of argument, the accused, Kavanuagh was already in effect "hired"- given the inquisition/questioning in July so his nomination should have been just a formality .

BUT... at the 11th hour, lo and behold, Feinstein presents an accusation. 11th hour being the caveat! And WaPo posts an article (for the record the facts do not line up - but surprisingly, there is no retraction from WaPo - why??) 4 Boys in the room accordingly to therapist's notes -then changed to just 3 but 4 boys at the party. WAIT..Actually, not 4 boys at the party, Ford states,but three boys and her good friend Leland. Sorry, this is changed to to 3 boys and Leland and a 4th boy at the party whom she/Ford cannot remember... Really?? She has no clue how she arrived at the party, where it is but she remembers she only had one beer.

And according to testimony at the hearing, she fled from the house but does not remember how she got home but left her good friend Leland alone with drunken men/sexual predators? That does not strike you as odd? Why doesn't Dr Ford and her counsel hand over polygraph info, therapist's notes and communication between Dr Ford's counsel and democratic personnel? Grassley has asked three times and they, Ford's counsel, have not complied. Ask yourself why would they not turn over notes which they used in their arguments? Perhaps their notes compromise them??

A week ago, Ford's ex boyfriend submits sworn testimony that he had witnessed Ford coaching Monica MacLean re:how to take a polygraph - a "best" friend who ended up working for the FBI (and according to the ex boyfriend - passing the polygraph thanks to DR Ford).. Hmmm... Then there is the flying issues, door issues...I could go on. What rhymes with "unreliable"?

So while you state this is just a "job interview" Marton... This became much more when Dems stalled, presented accusations at the last minute and DEMANDED a hearing and note, also an FBI investigation - all of which was performed. But when it did not render a result for them, suddenly, the FBI is corrupt and at fault.

Now that is too funny to me. FBI is great when it works in their favor, but corrupt when their findings go against their beliefs! Wow! It's a lot like this thread...
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