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Old 17.10.2018, 09:30
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why the sideshow over Warrens dna results? the story is Spanky made a bet and didn't just welch on it, but denied ever making it


"I didn't say that," Trump told a reporter. "No, you'd better read it again."


please, just the tiniest bit of character, show just a sliver of backbone.
He didn't make a bet. The full quote is provided above for reference.
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Basically the theory is that Trump keeps people at arms length because of his fear of rejection.
Which is the driver for his one to one meetings with world leaders.

He also keeps ex US Presidents at arms length whereas predecessors were more collegiate.
Yeah, I read a few articles on this theme a while ago. It was also said he's having some daddy issues (probably true, who would know), alcoholism running into his family etc. I don't know what to make of all of these theories as they are drawn in the absence of the "patient". It's like self diagnosing yourself by looking your symptoms up on the internet. Likely - maybe, yes, definitely - no.
I personally always thought he's acting, you know, like an actor. He has this idea of how a man of his status should behave in order to be "respected" and listened to, something along the line. I imagine the so called aristocracy from NY is not made up by pleasant or humble individuals either, and I would never want to be around this sort of people. They would crush me or you (or any other simpleton) like a bug, had we "disturbed" them one way or another, be sure of that. Trump is part of their class, extremely privileged, snooty, powerful, interconnected. There's no way of denying that, I think. He wouldn't be where is is today if he hadn't had the support of at least a part of them...;-)
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Old 17.10.2018, 09:47
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The math is not relevant, the Cherokee have no minimum blood (quantum) requirement.
Perhaps not, but the US government does (1/32) in order for her to claim belonging to a minority group, which she fraudulently did.

"Cherokee genealogists have pored through her family history to find that “None of her direct line ancestors are ever shown to be anything other than white, dating back to long before the Trail of Tears.” "

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He didn't make a bet. The full quote is provided above for reference.
since he expected 5 mill from bill maher back in the day for the orangutan joke, we could safely make an argument that he did.


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Old 17.10.2018, 10:23
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No. Trump compared the Kashoggi case with the Kavanaugh case. How dumb is this guy.
Or maybe he is admitting something about Kavanaugh?
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This has been discussed at great length by psychiatrists and psychologists.

There are all sort of theories, I know. I was more interested in what marton has to say about it...;-) It's more interesting to know other people's opinions and reactions than the reality itself. (which, I think, it's way simpler than people believe)
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I guess this is typical for how Trump regards himself - grand, luminous, beautiful, compared to the other presidents. The other ones are somehow pale figures that only preceded the light that was to come....I think it's funny, although not a totally bad painting - artistically. I'm sure it's enormous in size too.
You do realize this painting is one of a pair by the same artist?


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You do realize this painting is one of a pair by the same artist?
Haha, Obama seems so close with Kennedy and Clinton...I had no idea there's another one, thanks.
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I would have thought all you clever chaps would have learnt from Brexit that calling voters stupid doesn't result in much success in encouraging them to see your point of view.
I would have thought you would have learned from Brexit that someone who would vote against their best interests because someone called them stupid is not someone who would respond to a rational argument.


anyway take it to the Brexit thread.
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Did you even read the test report? or just the parts that satisfy your self-affirmation.


Advice #1: Read.
Advice #2 (if reading is hard): Open the document and press Ctrl and 'F' simultaneously, then let go. This will open a search window and you can find whatever you need to know.


Of course we are all delighted to spend our time searching for your sources simply because you cannot be bothered to post them.

All of which avoids the key question about "why would a law professor take a DNA test when there is no reliable reference database"?

I suppose she is hoping most people will remember she took a test that showed some Indian ancestry but without remembering too many details?

BTW, the HTML text formatting is a bit off in the original?
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I would have thought you would have learned from Brexit that someone who would vote against their best interests because someone called them stupid is not someone who would respond to a rational argument.


anyway take it to the Brexit thread.
You people are never wrong, are you?

... which is why we can expect another four years of Trump.
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He didn't make a bet. The full quote is provided above for reference.
ach, I did think I shouldn't call it a bet in case someone decided to split hairs instead of deal with the substance of the argument, guess that was you.


Whatever you want to call it, he's welched on it.
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You people are never wrong, are you?

... which is why we can expect another four years of Trump.
'you people' - you shock me sir, I thought you were all about the avoiding of lazy generalisations. seems I was wrong there.
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'you people' - you shock me sir, I thought you were all about the avoiding of lazy generalisations. seems I was wrong there.
Hardly my fault, is it?
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He didn't make a bet. The full quote is provided above for reference.
It is only "not a bet" in Trump's alternative world

Anyway no surprise, he also wriggled out of giving $5M to charity for Obama's birth certificate-
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Not true for the Cherokee, they have no minimum blood (quantum) requirement.

From the same source, strangely many official Cherokees are of African American descent!
This is due to the number of freed slaves who joined the Cherokee Nation. There was some resistance but after various legal actions they were eventually fully accepted; they were known as the Cherokee Freedmen.
No wonder DNA testing is complex


If Tom has any freed slaves in his ancestry then maybe he really is Cherokee!!
See, this is exactly why I don't understand the racialist classifications that Americans insist upon. In this case, apparently everyone can claim everything so I don't see the point in having any classifications. It shouldn't make any difference to which tribe one belongs to in a democratic country. When will America get rid of "Amerindian" and "Afro-American" horrible classifications, indicating racial make-up of a person going back to the Nth generation? I find it painfully backward and racist. They should be ashamed of it.
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ach, I did think I shouldn't call it a bet in case someone decided to split hairs instead of deal with the substance of the argument, guess that was you.


Whatever you want to call it, he's welched on it.
He didn't make a bet. He was taking the piss out of Ms Warren's claim to be a native American.

Turns out he was right.

I can't believe she was stupid enough to play along with it, but that's the state of US politics.
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See, this is exactly why I don't understand the racialist classifications that Americans insist upon. In this case, apparently everyone can claim everything so I don't see the point in having any classifications. It shouldn't make any difference to which tribe one belongs to in a democratic country. When will America get rid of "Amerindian" and "Afro-American" horrible classifications, indicating racial make-up of a person going back to the Nth generation? I find it painfully backward and racist. They should be ashamed of it.
You don't think indigenous peoples should have the right to define themselves as they see fit?
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It is only "not a bet" in Trump's alternative world
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Also in the world of people who understand the English language and grasp the notion of "context".
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You do realize this painting is one of a pair by the same artist?
The bombshell was placed at the end of the article:
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In January, President Trump asked to borrow Van Gogh's Landscape With Snow from the Guggenheim museum in New York.

The museum declined, but offered to lend the President a gold toilet from their collection.
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