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The basic problem is that Trump does not see himself as the US President with the role to unite the country against foreign influence.
Great example here "the President complained on Twitter that the news media was busy reporting on "'Bomb' stuff" and not politics."

He sees everything from a political point of view in personal terms of "will this bring me more votes or less votes".
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Old 27.10.2018, 00:09
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Former President Obama says that if Republicans were truly concerned about the security risks posed by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email server, "they'd be up in arms" over reports that President Trump is still using unsecured iPhones.

“In the last election it was Hillary’s emails. ‘This is terrible.’ ‘Hilary’s emails!’ We were hearing Hillary’s emails everywhere,” Obama said Friday at a campaign rally in Milwaukee.

"They didn't care about emails. And you know how you know? Because if they did, they'd be up in arms right now as the Chinese are listening to the president's iPhone that he leaves in his golf cart,” he continued. “It turns out, I guess it wasn't that important.”
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There was never any proof that classified Hillary’s emails were read by foreign powers but it seems that Trump's phone calls are widely available!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Cesar Sayoc-Trump could not wish for a better ambassador for his cause. He will definitely get pardoned by Trump!
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The basic problem is that Trump does not see himself as the US President with the role to unite the country against foreign influence.
Great example here "the President complained on Twitter that the news media was busy reporting on "'Bomb' stuff" and not politics."

He sees everything from a political point of view in personal terms of "will this bring me more votes or less votes".
Of course, and those who don't approve of his ways are worth of nothing but contempt.
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The basic problem is that Trump does not see himself as the US President with the role to unite the country against foreign influence.
Great example here "the President complained on Twitter that the news media was busy reporting on "'Bomb' stuff" and not politics."

He sees everything from a political point of view in personal terms of "will this bring me more votes or less votes".
I think he very much sees his role as fighting against foreign influence
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The capacity for self-delusion amongst Trump supporters is beyond belief:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pe-bomb-arrest

...although thinking of certain posters on here perhaps still not.
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The capacity for self-delusion amongst Trump supporters is beyond belief:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pe-bomb-arrest

...although thinking of certain posters on here perhaps still not.
Well dont forget this accused bomber is innocent until proven guilty. But of course the Trump followers are delusional like Trump.
I'm sure they all think the holocaust was a hoax. That is if they even know what the holocaust was!

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The capacity for self-delusion amongst Trump supporters is beyond belief:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pe-bomb-arrest

...although thinking of certain posters on here perhaps still not.
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“I bet $500 they are lying,” he said. “I bet it was a liberal who did it. Have you stopped to think why those bombs were only sent to high-level Democrats? They are trying to make it look like Donald Trump is encouraging terrorism.”
He added: “The truth is, the liberals are the terrorists.”
His wife agreed.
“It seems like a lot’s been planted to make it look like a Trump supporter did it,” said Carrie Pennington, 48.
Gibber, this is just batshit crazy, and we wonder how Spanky got in. Good luck believing this one Spanky fans, it's a doozie.

I heard Cesar Sayoc believes he himself is a liberal plot funded by George Soros.
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Well dont forget this accused bomber is innocent until proven guilty. But of course the Trump followers are delusional like Trump.
I'm sure they all think the holocaust was a hoax. That is if they even know what the holocaust was!
'course they do, it was like a thing, happened in Europe or some other shithole, something about showers, and the jews started fighting in the showers I think and some died, and George Soros robbed the bodies and even took their teeth, but WHADABOUTTHEHILARYEMAILS!!!
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This is the "new age" of "blind followers "! And thats on BOTH sides.

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Old 27.10.2018, 09:54
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True. Not so much against Russian influence though....


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Well dont forget this accused bomber is innocent until proven guilty. But of course the Trump followers are delusional like Trump.
I'm sure they all think the holocaust was a hoax. That is if they even know what the holocaust was!
Bomber's "innocence" aside (it's obvious that he has serious mental issues), this is the kind of comment and attitude that brought Trump to power too. Let's see who are Trump supporters first. Contrary to your common beliefs, they come from different racial and socio-economic backgrounds.
A bit chunk of his electorate is, indeed, made up of the so-called "white trash, rednecks etc". It is an ever growing category that is struggling to make ends meet as much as some other minorities you know. Education is expensive and a lot of these trailer people are inheriting their poverty, many forced to drop out school to help the family. Why this utter contempt, omtatsat? It is not only you, I just picked you post because it was more convenient.

We're all ignorant in some areas, we're all simpletons you know. It's the kind of "aristocratic" attitude that lost Hillary in elections. Let's not perpetuate the same kind of short-sightedness (myopia) and arrogance because we're going to lose any credibility when trying to oppose and confront populism.

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True. Not so much against Russian influence though....
Or Saudi....
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Old 27.10.2018, 10:02
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The capacity for self-delusion amongst Trump supporters is beyond belief:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pe-bomb-arrest

...although thinking of certain posters on here perhaps still not.
And that's truly scary. Trump's rhetoric continues to turn out thousands for his rallies, and if they vote in November it's likely the Rs will maintain control of at least one house. Anything that doesn't go their way, or anything that does but with negative consequences, will be "a giant liberal conspiracy". There's absolutely no accountability any more, just blame. It's pretty alarming, and the Ds do not have an answer.

I read the other day that if the Ds take the House again, Pelosi would still be their leader. Seriously? I understand she's a seasoned political veteran, but she's so toxic to getting centrist voters to show up that I don't think it will benefit the Ds.

Even the current prospects for 2020 on the D side are rather meh.
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Or Saudi....
Or Saudi, yeah.
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Bomber's "innocence" aside (it's obvious that he has serious mental issues), this is the kind of comment and attitude that brought Trump to power too. Let's see who are Trump supporters first. Contrary to your common beliefs, they come from different racial and socio-economic backgrounds.
A bit chunk of his electorate is, indeed, made up of the so-called "white trash, rednecks etc". It is an ever growing category that is struggling to make ends meet as much as some other minorities you know. Education is expensive and a lot of these trailer people are inheriting their poverty, many forced to drop out school to help the family. Why this utter contempt, omtatsat? It is not only you, I just picked you post because it was more convenient.

We're all ignorant in some areas, we're all simpletons you know. It's the kind of "aristocratic" attitude that lost Hillary in elections. Let's not perpetuate the same kind of short-sightedness (myopia) and arrogance because we're going to lose any credibility when trying to oppose and confront populism.
It's a fair point, well made. When he was elected I read all the analysis, disaffected underclass, politically marginalised, ignored by the elites, blah blah, yup it all made sense. Probably a much needed wake-up call for US politics. But here we are, scandal after scandal, ignorance piled on ignorance, lie upon easily disprovable lie, billionaires lining their pockets at the expense of their base who can't see they are being fleeced. Michael Moore commented in an interview recently that if you are still supporting trump after all thats happened you are lost, theres no reaching you. Thats how I feel, to quote an (American) friend "America is over". All I can do is grab the popcorn and watch the show, well I also carefully checked my wife's gigantic ballot paper, but mostly it's just popcorn and laughing(manically sometimes) at the absurdity.
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Bomber's "innocence" aside (it's obvious that he has serious mental issues issues)
Why does the bomber have to have serious mental issues? Maybe he is just an angry jerk. Is that a mental issue? I think we play the mental issue/illness card too freely and add to misunderstandings about mental illnesses and increase stigma of the same. Some people just suck, are nasty and are predisposed to violence.
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here we are, scandal after scandal, ignorance piled on ignorance, lie upon easily disprovable lie, billionaires lining their pockets at the expense of their base who can't see they are being fleeced.
In short, business as usual.

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The worst thing about it all, is not the awful deeds, rhetoric and lies - but that some people- many people- still support him and actually admire him for them - tragic- sick indeed
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The worst thing about it all, is not the awful deeds, rhetoric and lies - but that some people- many people- still support him and actually admire him for them - tragic- sick indeed
The only admirable US president in my lifetime was Ike.

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