Cesar Sayoc-Trump could not wish for a better ambassador for his cause. He will definitely get pardoned by Trump!

Of course, and those who don't approve of his ways are worth of nothing but contempt.

I think he very much sees his role as fighting against foreign influence

The capacity for self-delusion amongst Trump supporters is beyond belief:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pe-bomb-arrest

...although thinking of certain posters on here perhaps still not.

Well dont forget this accused bomber is innocent until proven guilty. But of course the Trump followers are delusional like Trump.
I'm sure they all think the holocaust was a hoax. That is if they even know what the holocaust was!

Gibber, this is just batshit crazy, and we wonder how Spanky got in. Good luck believing this one Spanky fans, it's a doozie.

I heard Cesar Sayoc believes he himself is a liberal plot funded by George Soros.

'course they do, it was like a thing, happened in Europe or some other shithole, something about showers, and the jews started fighting in the showers I think and some died, and George Soros robbed the bodies and even took their teeth, but WHADABOUTTHEHILARYEMAILS!!!

This is the "new age" of "blind followers "! And thats on BOTH sides.

True. Not so much against Russian influence though....


Bomber's "innocence" aside (it's obvious that he has serious mental issues), this is the kind of comment and attitude that brought Trump to power too. Let's see who are Trump supporters first. Contrary to your common beliefs, they come from different racial and socio-economic backgrounds.
A bit chunk of his electorate is, indeed, made up of the so-called "white trash, rednecks etc". It is an ever growing category that is struggling to make ends meet as much as some other minorities you know. Education is expensive and a lot of these trailer people are inheriting their poverty, many forced to drop out school to help the family. Why this utter contempt, omtatsat? It is not only you, I just picked you post because it was more convenient.

We're all ignorant in some areas, we're all simpletons you know. It's the kind of "aristocratic" attitude that lost Hillary in elections. Let's not perpetuate the same kind of short-sightedness (myopia) and arrogance because we're going to lose any credibility when trying to oppose and confront populism.

Or Saudi....

And that's truly scary. Trump's rhetoric continues to turn out thousands for his rallies, and if they vote in November it's likely the Rs will maintain control of at least one house. Anything that doesn't go their way, or anything that does but with negative consequences, will be "a giant liberal conspiracy". There's absolutely no accountability any more, just blame. It's pretty alarming, and the Ds do not have an answer.

I read the other day that if the Ds take the House again, Pelosi would still be their leader. Seriously? I understand she's a seasoned political veteran, but she's so toxic to getting centrist voters to show up that I don't think it will benefit the Ds.

Even the current prospects for 2020 on the D side are rather meh.

Or Saudi, yeah.

It's a fair point, well made. When he was elected I read all the analysis, disaffected underclass, politically marginalised, ignored by the elites, blah blah, yup it all made sense. Probably a much needed wake-up call for US politics. But here we are, scandal after scandal, ignorance piled on ignorance, lie upon easily disprovable lie, billionaires lining their pockets at the expense of their base who can't see they are being fleeced. Michael Moore commented in an interview recently that if you are still supporting trump after all thats happened you are lost, theres no reaching you. Thats how I feel, to quote an (American) friend "America is over". All I can do is grab the popcorn and watch the show, well I also carefully checked my wife's gigantic ballot paper, but mostly it's just popcorn and laughing(manically sometimes) at the absurdity.

Here is a photo of decorations on the side of the vehicle belonging to Cesar Sayoc, notice the targets!

Clearly the guy is a fake news Democrat

Why does the bomber have to have serious mental issues? Maybe he is just an angry jerk. Is that a mental issue? I think we play the mental issue/illness card too freely and add to misunderstandings about mental illnesses and increase stigma of the same. Some people just suck, are nasty and are predisposed to violence.

In short, business as usual.

Tom

The worst thing about it all, is not the awful deeds, rhetoric and lies - but that some people- many people- still support him and actually admire him for them - tragic- sick indeed

The only admirable US president in my lifetime was Ike.

Tom

He doesn't have to, it looks like he has to me. I had no intention to increase stigma on anything, but I won't apologise for supposing he was ill. Of course, the other variant could be valid too. Who knows...for now.

I'd say sending a dozen people a device in the post, designed to kill them and their families goes beyond "angry jerk". An angry jerk would punch someone in a bar, someone who methodically assembles possibly scores of explosive devices then posts them to political enemies is clearly deranged.