Stochastic terrorism. Emboldens the domestic terrorists with rhetoric and makes them feel it is acceptable to carry out terrorist acts - like this one, the bomb and the killing of two African Americans last week. Put another way, stirring the pot.

In fact, the guy on Saturday was critical of Trump's links to Judiasm.

And the truth is, just because you have Jewish relatives, doesn't mean you're not antisemitic. I have plenty.

Video from above (4m39s)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdg3QNf9UOc

Now this bit is a bit confusing?

So Trump, who never says anything against Jews, is responsible for an attack on Jews? Because rhetoric.

My father's family was Jewish. I have plenty of antisemetic relatives on the other side.

He's probably also responsible for all those attacks on Jews and synagogues in France, Germany and elsewhere. Even the ones that happened before he was elected.

We can't possibly admit that our entire culture is saturated with anti-semitism.

No. It's Trump.

As this was an act of political terrorism rather than religious, surely a better comparison would be to the attack by James Hodgkinson on the Republican Congressmen last year?

Something something Muslims.

In Europe synagogues are guarded by actual armed guards. Trumps fault obvs.

What???

“Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist,” Bowers wrote. “There is no #MAGA [Make America Great Again] as long as there is a [Jewish] infestation.”.. From the horse's mouth...

Meanwhile... "The nonprofits Celebrate Mercy and MPower Change created a crowdfunding campaign for the Tree of Life synagogue victims on LaunchGood, a Muslim crowdsourcing site. The campaign passed its original fundraising goal of $25,000 within six hours, and then its new goal of $50,000 within 24 hours*

Meanwhile... "Speaking to the crowds, Mr Trump said: “By the way, somebody just said your hair looks different today.

“I said well I was standing under the wing of Air Force One, doing a news conference earlier this morning, a very unfortunate news conference and the wind was blowing and the rain, and I was soaking wet.”

Meanwhile ... "The two people killed Wednesday -- Maurice Stallard and Vickie Jones -- were shot in the grocery store and the parking lot, respectively. CNN affiliate WDRB described both victims as black." .. Tumbleweed

He's not responsible, he's a stable enough genius to only incite and take care of his rug.

Oh ffs.

Before my eyes get stuck in the back of my head. Trump is not responsible for all anti Semitic episodes in the past world wide. But I believe that his speeches and actions provide encouragement for white supremacist actors.

What do you think is responsible for the rise in Anti Semitism in the US?

Trump is like the match igniting the shitheads in the pot of discontent.

The Golden Generation is dying out. The Holocaust is fading out of memory. The US, along with the rest of the world, is reverting to type.

I wonder about this. Given that racism tends to be higher the older you get, you would think that older generations dying off would perhaps cause a downswing, or at least if other people become older and replace them, you'd expect the status quo to remain level. The fact that there has been an upswing in the last few years suggests there is another factor(s).

Allow me a little sarcasm, it's unbearable without.

Anti-semitism is the default setting for European and US culture (not to mention large chunks of the rest of the world). For our grandparents' generation, the revelations of the Holocaust made it somewhat unfashionable for a while. Now the people who have direct recollection of the horrors are dying, we are reverting to our factory setting.

Blaming individual gobshites is just making excuses for the overall hatefulness of our culture.

But hey, if we can shift the blame onto THE OTHER, we'll all feel better, eh?

I am not saying Trump is solely responsible and i think, most of you know it. If not, well. ............

I am saying his presidency fosters an environment where individuals feel emboldened to practice racism, anti Semitism, and violence against perceived enemies.

I rather like this opinion piece...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

An excerpt:

If no politician’s words, written or spoken, have any effect on anyone, how does one explain hundreds of years of successful propaganda? Politicians, aside from engaging the military or civilian law enforcement, have few tools other than their microphone. And certainly, those trying to skate by with a cramped definition of “responsibility” know this. We elect presidents in large part because they have the bully pulpit and can rally a country, put an issue front and center, change minds and set the contours for acceptable debate. Few would argue that race-baiting leaders in the Jim Crow South had “no responsibility” for racial violence against African Americans. When politicians demonize outsiders (or insinuate their own countrymen are really outsiders), remove social inhibitions against expressing bigotry and dehumanize enemies (and those who they claim assist them), the hate-mongers can hardly be surprised if some fraction of the population takes them seriously.

You think specifically anti-Semitism is the default setting, or general xenophobia / racism? I'm pretty sure, throughout history, as soon as something goes wrong, the nearest forrin is the first target, rather than any specific race/religion.

is there actually a rise in antisemistism, or is there just an increase in our perception / reporting?

There is a thin line between people blaming the 1% / bankers / rentiers etc, many of who traditionally happen to be of Jewish extraction, and using those words as code to establish that a certain group of people are responsible for all the world's ills and thus justify retribution against them.

Many people who actively deny being anti-semitic are thus unwittingly rocking the boat by failing to differentiate sufficiently, and putting into circulation ideas that lead others to evil deeds.

I think that in most cases, antisemitism didn't erupt spontaneously but was stoked and encouraged for whaever reason.

But that's what makes anti-semitism a very special sort of bigotry: in most cases the victims are our own compatriots, not some random incomer.

Not blaming you personally, but the fact that we consider our Jewish neighbours to be foreigners, when they have likely lived alongside us for generations, tells us everything we need to know about our default attitude towards Jewish people.