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Old 06.11.2018, 21:29
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Then again, tomorrow is the first day after the midterm elections... I don't think Loz will be a happy little bunny.
I already know what will happen: history will be completely ignored and any sort of gains for the Democrats will be lauded by you lot as a trouncing for Trump. That the last midterms resulted in the largest Republican majority in the entire country in a century will be convienintly swept under the carpet.
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I already know what will happen: history will be completely ignored and any sort of gains for the Democrats will be lauded by you lot as a trouncing for Trump. That the last midterms resulted in the largest Republican majority in the entire country in a century will be convienintly swept under the carpet.
I think people from both sides of the political divide will all agree that since Trump ended up in the White House, history counts for approximately zero. I wouldn't spend too much time looking at trends from the past. The US is sailing in uncharted territory.
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I think people from both sides of the political divide will all agree that since Trump ended up in the White House, history counts for approximately zero. I wouldn't spend too much time looking at trends from the past. The US is sailing in uncharted territory.
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I already know what will happen: history will be completely ignored and any sort of gains for the Democrats will be lauded by you lot as a trouncing for Trump. That the last midterms resulted in the largest Republican majority in the entire country in a century will be convienintly swept under the carpet.
Yes, when there's a substantial change in voting preferences, that's what tends to happen—the past is swept away. That's the whole point of voting for change.

I think I understand that bizarre American expression "butthurt" now.
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Old 06.11.2018, 22:55
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Like this whole thread perhaps? Lots of antipathy here. Those who dissent from the majority's view are vilified and those who concur are applauded regardless of the content they proffer.

I guess there is no room for a "calm" debate when others are derisive when they counter. My sister just posted on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

Divisive...absolutely! This thread reminds me of Trump in fact! Many of you are reenacting his rhetoric Well done Maybe we should all try to act like adults on this Forum!
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Then again, tomorrow is the first day after the midterm elections... I don't think Loz will be a happy little bunny.
You are a so called "moderator" and you cannot help yourself at taking a "pot shot" so to speak? That in itself is fascinating - that you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator and clearly you cannot help yourself! WOW! On all levels!!

Again, maybe we should all try to respond with courtesy and respect and behave as adults; some may have different views from you 22 Yards but that does not mean their opinions are unworthy...
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Old 06.11.2018, 22:58
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You are a so called "moderator" and you cannot help yourself at taking a "pot shot" so to speak? That in itself is fascinating - that you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator and clearly you cannot help yourself! WOW! On all levels!!

Again, maybe we should all try to respond with courtesy and respect and behave as adults; some may have different views from you 22 Yards but that does not mean their opinions are unworthy...
"you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator " Why should a moderator be forbidden to state their opinions?
They are just as entitled to their opinions as any other EF member.
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You are a so called "moderator" and you cannot help yourself at taking a "pot shot" so to speak? That in itself is fascinating - that you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator and clearly you cannot help yourself! WOW! On all levels!!

Again, maybe we should all try to respond with courtesy and respect and behave as adults; some may have different views from you 22 Yards but that does not mean their opinions are unworthy...
WOW! Like, yeah, WOW!!!!

What makes you think that a moderator on EF should be "unbiased"? This is not a scientific repository of facts. It's not even a political discussion forum. As already stated some time ago, I am not and never claimed to be impartial.

Moderators of EF are and always have been regular members too. We have opinions and we'll express them when we want to. That has nothing to do with moderating the forum.

Have a great evening.
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"you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator " Why should a moderator be forbidden to state their opinions?
They are just as entitled to their opinions as any other EF member.
A moderator should "moderate/oversee" and not engage in name calling!

AGAIN..We are all adults Marton - from different backgrounds and with varying experiences. No need to shut people down because they do not ascribe to your viewpoint. The purpose of a Forum is discussion... But this Forum does not seem like an open debate to me! We need to act like adults and not children here...

Just my thoughts...
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WOW! Like, yeah, WOW!!!!

What makes you think that a moderator on EF should be "unbiased"? This is not a scientific repository of facts. It's not even a political discussion forum. As already stated some time ago, I am not and never claimed to be impartial.

Moderators of EF are and always have been regular members too. We have opinions and we'll express them when we want to. That has nothing to do with moderating the forum.

Have a great evening.
WOW! Okay...Keep going here 22 Yards and proving my point that anyone who does not agree with you is marginalized... Given your comments to me! You know it all and ARE IN CONTROL!

Isn't that the caveat here? That you have control? Good for you!! You must feel so good about yourself - Omniscient almost! You know what will occur tomorrow even though most of us have no clue. Must be AMAZING to walk in your shoes given your ego...
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A moderator should "moderate/oversee" and not engage in name calling!

AGAIN..We are all adults Marton - from different backgrounds and with varying experiences. No need to shut people down because they do not ascribe to your viewpoint. The purpose of a Forum is discussion... But this Forum does not seem like an open debate to me! We need to act like adults and not children here...

Just my thoughts...
Let me see if I understand you correctly. You have an opinion on the role of moderators of fora, but instead of just putting it out there, you state it as fact and demand that thy will be done, or you'll stamp your foot.



Did I get that right?

I'll give your demand due consideration.

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WOW! Okay...Keep going here 22 Yards and proving my point that anyone who does not agree with you is marginalized... Given your comments to me! You know it all and ARE IN CONTROL!

Isn't that the caveat here? That you have control? Good for you!! You must feel so good about yourself - Omniscient almost! You know what will occur tomorrow even though most of us have no clue. Must be AMAZING to walk in your shoes given your ego...
Are you serious, that you have "no clue" what is happening today (not tomorrow)???!!! To quote you (an American, if I understand correctly), WOW!!!!!! Perhaps you should tear yourself away from Breitbart for a moment and find out what's happening in your own country.

Caveat? As mentioned before, you really have no understanding of legal terms.

That's just my opinion, of course, as a member of EF.
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Caveat? As mentioned before, you really have no understanding of legal terms.

That's just my opinion, of course, as a member of EF.
Okay ...let me restate and say..isn't that the conundrum here 22 Yards? You are a so called moderator but like to bully as you see fit in terms of others who do not ascribe to your viewpoint...

For me, the meaning of a moderator invokes impartiality but perhaps it is different on this Forum.

PS...Here is the definition of caveat (appropriate in my usage):

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caveat

Perhaps you need to reevaluate your legal terms ... I was not using caveat in a legal sense! The word has other applications/nuances...
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A moderator should "moderate/oversee" and not engage in name calling!

AGAIN..We are all adults Marton - from different backgrounds and with varying experiences. No need to shut people down because they do not ascribe to your viewpoint. The purpose of a Forum is discussion... But this Forum does not seem like an open debate to me! We need to act like adults and not children here...

Just my thoughts...
"We are all adults Marton" Speak for yourself!

"No need to shut people down" Who has been shut down?

I see a lot of open debate here and frankly too much ad hominem but different views are healthy.
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A Russian billionaire who purchased a mansion from President Trump in 2008 in a business deal that is now being investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller was detained Tuesday in Monaco and questioned related to an ongoing corruption probe.

His purchase of the mansion is one of several Trump business transactions that Bloomberg News reported last year were under investigation by Mueller
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Probably about nothing, Russian oligarchs would never get involved in illegal activities.
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Are you serious, that you have "no clue" what is happening today (not tomorrow)???!!! To quote you (an American, if I understand correctly), WOW!!!!!! Perhaps you should tear yourself away from Breitbart for a moment and find out what's happening in your own country.

Caveat? As mentioned before, you really have no understanding of legal terms.

That's just my opinion, of course, as a member of EF.
Sorry I don't read Breitbart...never have! I am to presume you only read Huffungton Post or The Guardian?
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Sorry I don't read Breitbart...never have! I am to presume you only read Huffungton Post or The Guardian?
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Presume what you like—wrongly, again.
And you presume which news outlets I read incorrectly and are wrong again 22 Yards... but keep trying!
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I was referring to the more recent Trump's moves.

I also have the feeling that it used to be easier for certain nationalities, before Trump, but am not so sure like you about the current situation, not even for the exceptionally skilled ones. USA has become like any other Western European country scared to death by immigrants, furiners and what not, which is sooo funny in a way.

That being said, I probably live in a bubble because I never encountered that sort of Americans in real life (EF is excluded from these considerations, obviously). The country looks like it has shifted enormously lately, but when you talk with common people or visit is something else. For the moment.
What was referred to before you replied is distinct, highly educated people have other options including, but not limited to, "National Interest Waiver" green cards for highly skilled individuals.

Legal immigration continues as it did since 2010 with about 1.05mln (avg according to Wiki) legal immigrants annually (see table 3) (you could easily say since 2000 with an annual avg of 1.03mln). The bottom line is that legally immigrating Asians clearly outnumber immigrants from south of the US (legal and estimated illegals combined) yet it's all about the illegal brown people.

Yes, the reaction by a country of immigrants is deeply ironic. But perhaps that's just a symptom rather than the actual cause. Perhaps it's fundamentally about the whites losing their majority status, with the outlook of "soon" being outnumbered by the Latinos, and about the disillusionment on the "American dream", in no small part a consequence of ever more expensive education as a result of tax cuts.
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