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07.11.2018, 09:33
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I see that you've had a piece. 
Tom | | | | | No, that's a large slice I set aside for our gloating poster some weeks ago. | 
07.11.2018, 09:35
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Just to show how broken the US voting System is, at present, in the Senate elections, the Dems have around 41m votes and the Reps around 32m votes...and this has translated to +3 seats for the Reps. Democracy indeed. | | | | | That's down to the varying sizes of the states, of course. The truly remarkable thing is that the Democrats have done so well in the House, which is and long has been cripplingly gerrymandered in the Republicans' favour.
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07.11.2018, 09:50
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "you are supposedly "unbiased" as a moderator " Why should a moderator be forbidden to state their opinions?
They are just as entitled to their opinions as any other EF member. | | | | | ...as long as they fit into the groupthink, right marton? They are entitled to their opinions as long as they respect the rules they impose onto others, and that doesn't happen any time here. But hey, we all know how EF works, so let's leave it at that. Futile exercise of communication.
In other news, it seems the Democrats are doing well, good for them.
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07.11.2018, 09:51
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | That's down to the varying sizes of the states, of course. The truly remarkable thing is that the Democrats have done so well in the House, which is and long has been cripplingly gerrymandered in the Republicans' favour. | | | | | Sure, 2 per state. House in theory population based, but we all know that it isn't really the case there either.
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07.11.2018, 09:52
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | ...as long as they fit into the groupthink, right marton? They are entitled to their opinions as long as they respect the rules they impose onto others, and that doesn't happen any time here. | | | | | Are you suggesting that some people have been banned for calling others "not happy bunnies"? I was called a Cretin yesterday, I'm not pissing my pants and asking for the unhappy bunny to be sanctioned, even though my thyroid is fine!
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07.11.2018, 09:59
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Are you suggesting that some people have been banned for calling others "not happy bunnies"? I was called a Cretin yesterday, I'm not pissing my pants and asking for the unhappy bunny to be sanctioned. | | | | | I meant in general, happy bunny is quite.....cute. And no, it's not nice that someone called you like that.
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07.11.2018, 10:02
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Are you suggesting that some people have been banned for calling others "not happy bunnies"? I was called a Cretin yesterday, I'm not pissing my pants and asking for the unhappy bunny to be sanctioned, even though my thyroid is fine! | | | | | I think you beat me. I was only a Simpleton.
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07.11.2018, 10:04
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | I know that's what she's doing. She has a one-track agenda; there's a consistent theme, just have a look at her posting history.
Again, mods have opinions and we're free to express them. | | | | | Hold on - is Loz a she?
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07.11.2018, 10:07
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Hold on - is Loz a she? | | | | | Wait, isn't this a gender neutral forum?
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07.11.2018, 10:08
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Hold on - is Loz a she? | | | | | Terryfisch not Loz...I hardly agree with her on anything but I can't see any serious reason for so much contempt. Whatever.
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07.11.2018, 10:17
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Have I not scrolled back enough and am I wrong that all this outburst stems back to 22 Yards commenting that the midterm results will make Loz " not a happy bunny"?
Or did I miss proper name-calling somewhere?  | | | | | Yes, it was a small fairly civilised discussion about mods and whether they should be partial or not, and whether they should take the higher road or not when it comes to poking fun at other people. But it seems it's snowballing in a different direction now. | Quote: |  | | | I was called a Cretin yesterday, I'm not pissing my pants and asking for the unhappy bunny to be sanctioned, even though my thyroid is fine! | | | | | So much name calling. Looks like we can't talk politics without bursting into accusations and "surreptitiously" insulting other people. From where I stand I partially agree with terrifisch when she said that: | Quote: |  | | | No need to shut people down because they do not ascribe to your viewpoint. The purpose of a Forum is discussion... But this Forum does not seem like an open debate to me! | | | | | But that doesn't seem to be the case here. What I see when I read every single post in this thread is "mostly" a regular discussion. Of course counterarguments always try to somehow shut down the opposite argument. In my 12 years in EF I don't remember any case when moderators bullied or marginalized other people.
It'd be nice for a change when people don't get their panties in a knot over every other statement that they disagree with.
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07.11.2018, 10:19
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It'd be nice for a change when people don't get their panties in a knot over every other statement that they disagree with. | | | | | Welcome to the internet | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
07.11.2018, 10:24
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Win some, lose some.
Big wins in the senate and governors, lost control of the house.
In short, a toss-up.
Tom | | | | | So far with 46 Governor results, the Dems are up 6! | 
07.11.2018, 10:25
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Welcome to the internet  | | | | | Yes, I agree. I've been online long enough to know what to expect from 4chan, what to expect in Reddit, and what to expect in Wikipedia Talk pages. I'm afraid that what I was referring to is very far from what I expect in EF. And I still prefer to complain about immature behaviour here when I see it.
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07.11.2018, 10:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I don't think that's what he's doing. He's just criticising the fact that you're instigating a pointless discussion (as he said "taking a pot shot") by needlessly poking another member...just for fun:
I agree with terrifisch: I find that to be rather disappointing behaviour for a mod, whose role includes moderating discussions and helping ensure a courteous and respectful behaviour in the forum. | | | | | Everybody has an opinion, I believe it is healthier if they quote it so we know where they are coming from instead of disguising it.
Also the significant risk that if you hedge in Mods with too many rules then they will simply stop doing the job!
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07.11.2018, 10:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | So far with 46 Governor results, the Dems are up 6!  | | | | | But only 36 states had elections for governor!
And even if the Dems are up 6, they still only have 1/3 of the governors.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But only 36 states had elections for governor! 
And even if the Dems are up 6, they still only have 1/3 of the governors. 
Tom | | | | | I just quoted the numbers from here
That shows 36 races but 46 results | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I just quoted the numbers from here
That shows 36 races but 46 results  | | | | | No, I think they still show 36 results, but in a very confusing way (the numbers include non-races). If you click on "Full results map" it's a bit better (there's a legend in the map for the "not up for election" governors).
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07.11.2018, 11:02
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But only 36 states had elections for governor! 
And even if the Dems are up 6, they still only have 1/3 of the governors. 
Tom | | | | | It depends on which states. Govenors have an impact in drawing congressional districts. Michigan, for example elected both a Democratic governor and outlawed gerrymandering. Delighted that walker lost in WI.
The actual number of Democratic govenors matters less than the structure of the congressional districts in specific states.
Over 100 women elected to the house, of varying ages, ethnicities and sexual orientation. Leadership of house committees will change. Am looking forward to seeing Maxine Waters lead the financial whatever committee. Should be entertaining if nothing else.
Some good, some bad results depending on your perspective. Not a blue wave necessarily, but certainly some change.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Before Trump it was 28 years since a Republican Presidential Candidate had won Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.
So some people expected the Dems to do well in these States, there was indeed improvement. In Michigan and Wisconsin, Democrats are expected to flip attorney general and the secretary of state’s office.
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