View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President? |
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10.01.2017, 14:40
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | You reply to perceived slights very quickly for someone who doesn't care about them, partner.
We don't need to have the discussion about why 'Untermensch' has far more sinister connotations than your argument is willing to admit. All good. | | | | | dont flatter yourself, its just procrastination on my part. a form of entertainment with hints of masochism.
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10.01.2017, 14:42
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | dont flatter yourself | | | | | Somebody has to.
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10.01.2017, 14:57
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | oh i am not thinking of EF in particular. but i like how you imply the other words have probably been used here. | | | | | Please don't assume. I'm far too straightforward to waste my words on implications.
My criteria for that post was... In life, do I know people who are racists, xenophobes, sexists, nazis and untermenschen, idiots and trolls?
The answer was "yes" to all except trolls and untermenschen, the latter being a word I hadn't seen or heard used since school days, most particularly when the tv series 'Holocaust' was screened in the UK in the 1970's. For me, that word has a red flag attached to it. It takes me back to letters being sent to parents regarding kids using the word in class, and my grandfather explaining why the word is so reprehensible.
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10.01.2017, 15:01
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ovi | Quote: |  | | | We don't need to have the discussion about why 'Untermensch' has far more sinister connotations than your argument is willing to admit. All good. | | | | | Sorry. Cross posted and I agree that it's probably best if we let that particular subject rest. Moving on...
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10.01.2017, 15:13
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An American Massage client of mine said he only voted for Tr.mp because he didn't want Hillary in, but never thought Donald would really win. Now he says: "Sh.t! wasn't a good idea! Now we have to live with that decision made". I suppose lots of Americans would have prefered for example Bernie Sanders or so, and just voted Donald for the reason mentioned.
Obama might not always have maid the right decisions, but I liked him, his cool and not racist and his wife Michelle, too.
Melania, Donald's wife is a Ostblock-Model and will not even move into the White House for the moment. Don't think she will hold any speeches like Michelle did. She doesn't have that education and profession as a back-ground any way. She will just be the mute good looking Model next to Donald on the photos not more I suppose.
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10.01.2017, 15:18
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Melania, Donald's wife is a Ostblock-Model and will not even move into the White House for the moment. Don't think she will hold any speeches like Michelle did. | | | | | Errr.... you were kind of doing well until that part of the post.
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10.01.2017, 15:20
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Melania, Donald's wife is a Ostblock-Model and will not even move into the White House for the moment. Don't think she will hold any speeches like Michelle did. | | | | | The last I heard she was being accused of making a speech too like Michelle's.
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10.01.2017, 15:26
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | and the left's go-to response is to call people racists, xenophobes, sexists, nazis and untermenschen, idiots and trolls.
im cool with that because you can say anything you want. as long as you back it up with arguments. simply calling someone a troll to dismiss what is said and then walk away is shit.
the real irony is then, that the left starts whining about decency when the word libtard is mentioned. | | | | | So all the EF people here who said I was trolling were from the left?
I am surprised but probably not so surprised as they will be | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
10.01.2017, 15:29
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | An American Massage client of mine said he only voted for Tr.mp because he didn't want Hillary in, but never thought Donald would really win. Now he says: "Sh.t! wasn't a good idea! Now we have to live with that decision made". I suppose lots of Americans would have prefered for example Bernie Sanders or so, and just voted Donald for the reason mentioned.
Obama might not always have maid the right decisions, but I liked him, his cool and not racist and his wife Michelle, too.
Melania, Donald's wife is a Ostblock-Model and will not even move into the White House for the moment. Don't think she will hold any speeches like Michelle did. She doesn't have that education and profession as a back-ground any way. She will just be the mute good looking Model next to Donald on the photos not more I suppose.
Vanessa | | | | | What does being an Ostblock (what is that word, anyway) model have to do with presidential work?
People marry for different reasons, why implant your idea of a person's wife on him, anyways. Opendmindedness is probably needed.
I like her femininity. And not because we were raised the same way, in the Ostblock, lol. I think the West has lost some of it in their eager struggle to point out potential gender conflict anywhere it suits.
Trump's first wife (Ostblock tinted too) was feminine, too, despite (or thanks to?) to her skiing career.
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10.01.2017, 15:40
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | What does being an Ostblock (what is that word, anyway) model have to do with presidential work?
People marry for different reasons, why implant your idea of a person's wife on him, anyways. Opendmindedness is probably needed.
I like her femininity. And not because we were raised the same way, in the Ostblock, lol. I think West has lost some of it in their eager struggel to point out potential gender conflict anywhere it suits. | | | | | Absolutely. Melania is smart and beautiful. May be the most beautiful first lady we've ever had. In due course of time, she'll play her role, and demonstrate once again how atrociously erroneous the sinister outrage crowd is.
Haters be hatin.
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10.01.2017, 15:47
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | May be the most beautiful first lady we've ever had. | | | | | 1. I guess you're too young to have heard of Jackie Kennedy (Onassis), who was beautiful, had style and grace, and even smiled.
2. What does the beauty of a President's wife have to do with the success of his policies? (Assuming he has any policies, of course.)
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10.01.2017, 15:53
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | 1. I guess you're too young to have heard of Jackie Onassis, who was beautiful, had style and grace, and even smiled.
2. What dos the beauty of a President's wife have to do with the success of his policies? (Assuming he has any policies, of course.) | | | | | First Ladies develop their own projects, and have their own offices apart from their husbands. The fact that she is already typecasted and marginalized today by the outrage crowd gives me encouragement that she will do just fine and make fools of detractors once again.
I'd love to see her do something great for Eastern Europe. We'll see.
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10.01.2017, 15:53
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Seriously?! The new first lady looks completely miserable.. or is that just cos her face is numb with botox?
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10.01.2017, 16:03
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | First Ladies develop their own projects, and have their own offices apart from their husbands. The fact that she is already typecasted and marginalized today by the outrage crowd gives me encouragement that she will do just fine and make fools of detractors once again.
I'd love to see her do something great for Eastern Europe. We'll see. | | | | | Bit like Michelle, then... | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
10.01.2017, 16:18
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Seriously?! The new first lady looks completely miserable.. or is that just cos her face is numb with botox? | | | | | She's definitely overdoing it with the botox rather than taking her age with dignity as many past first ladies have done. When it comes to taking on compassionate roles or drumming up support for causes and charities as first ladies typically do, the slightly senior lady type of person with its mix of feminine compassion and yet taking no sh*t definitely does have an edge in the credibility department. So Melania's clinging to some artificial eternal imaginary youth is sad, but it's her choice.
I won't comment on her abilities or human contribution as I haven't seen enough of her to judge. I'm open to being positively surprised.
At the end of the day, her appearance should be neither here nor there. Her choice. Her problem. Just like Trump's choice of hairdresser.
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10.01.2017, 16:20
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | First Ladies develop their own projects, and have their own offices apart from their husbands. The fact that she is already typecasted and marginalized today by the outrage crowd gives me encouragement that she will do just fine and make fools of detractors once again.
I'd love to see her do something great for Eastern Europe. We'll see. | | | | | I expect her to play a mainly decorative role as the rest of them (Hillary excepted)...raising "awareness" and big funds at charity events, supporting her husband... discreetly.
And do something for her own disadvantaged American countrymen.
But really, she shouldn't play any role bigger than that, nor any other presidential wife. IMO
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Don't think she will hold any speeches like Michelle did. | | | | | Sure she will. The ones she copies from Michelle
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Say what you will, the Obamas were as classy, smart, sophisticated, charming and overall down-to-earth a family as can be. No drama, no scandals, nothing. Whether you agreed with the politics or not, there was absolutely nothing disgraceful about that couple and family.
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10.01.2017, 16:32
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I expect her to play a mainly decorative role as the rest of them (Hillary excepted)...raising "awareness" and big funds at charity events, supporting her husband...discreetly.
And do something for her own disadvantaged American countrymen. 
But really, she shouldn't play any role bigger than that, nor any other presidential wife. IMO | | | | |
But why would she do that when she has an opportunity to break a mold? I wouldn't mind if she does something to further infuriate the outrage crowd, and challenge their sensibilities. Maybe she can promote catwalking schools, or proper make-up courses.
More seriously though, she can even encourage entrepreneurship, which I think she has a good disposition for.
In any event, there is nothing wrong with her, and she can do as she pleases.
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10.01.2017, 16:38
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No more Tweeting Trump Worried He Can’t Keep His Android Phone in White House David Z. Morris
In a new report from inside the Trump transition process, the New York Times reports that President-Elect Trump doesn’t want to give up his Android phone when he moves to the White house. He worries, according to the Times’ sources, that he will become isolated without the phone. It is his main point of remote contact with friends and advisors—and with the Twitter account that is so central to his public influence.
It’s a deeply ironic concern, given the context. As covered in-depth recently by Politico’s Garrett Graff, it was Hillary Clinton’s commitment to using only her personal BlackBerry at the State Department that led her staff to set up a private email server—and in turn, arguably, to her defeat in the presidential election.
Also much like Clinton, Trump isn’t very familiar with how to use a computer, and didn’t use email as recently as 2007. Clinton’s unwillingness to check email on a desktop (as Colin Powell advised) was another factor contributing to her private-server issues.
It seems likely, though not certain, that Trump would face hurdles similar to those Clinton was working around if he wanted to use personal devices and accounts while in office. Hacking efforts against U.S. political parties and government entities reached new heights during the election, and Androids have been subject to occasional vulnerabilities, making for a potential security headache.
On the other hand, many of the transparency rules and practices that Clinton was accused of flouting as Secretary of State, including the Freedom of Information Act, don’t apply to the President. That may leave Trump freer to communicate however he wants to.Trump has previously expressed his partiality to Samsung phones, and his use of an Android device helped observers figure out whether he or his staffers were responsible for particular tweets during the campaign, including the period leading up to Election Day when his staff took over his social media presence entirely. Link | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But why would she do that when she has an opportunity to break a mold? I wouldn't mind if she does something to further infuriate the outrage crowd, and challenge their sensibilities. | | | | | This is what Hillary did and look where it had gotten her... | Quote: | |  | | | In any event, there is nothing wrong with her | | | | | Agree, I know too little about her in order to pass a judgement....and then again, it's not her who will be running the country.
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