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Old 08.11.2018, 11:29
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Yes, many Aboriginals were killed by smallpox and other diseases. This is somewhat different to state sponsored extermination. It's like blaming China for the Black Death, or Africa for AIDS. It still doesn't prove that there weren't many brown people left in Australia at the end of the 19th century thanks to the British. Keep trying.
I see you didn't get beyond the first 2 words of the list. To remind you, "new diseases repressive and often brutal treatment, dispossession, and social and cultural disruption and disintegration"

I've see a figure quoted for violent deaths alone of about 20,000, I believe that is not including Tasmania. Add in the other non-violent and non-disease causes and it is going to amount to quite a lot.

You could start with this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...us_Australians

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Perhaps I am in the minority here: I like Trump. I wish he was the president/prime minister of my country:

Unemployment is the lowest since the early 70's, wages grew almost 5%, he was the first world leader who was capable to bring North Korea to the negotiation table, withdrew from that fool Paris Agreement, and is tough on illegal immigration, as it should be.

Look the dump that many cities in Europa have become with this uncontrolled immigration. I think his language is politically incorrect many times but I prefer a politician that speaks his mind instead of one that plays the nice guy.

Yes you are.

If we were to start with a cynical observation, it should perhaps be said that Trump came to power on the wave of a hate speech, and so he would leave on the wave of hate speech. No economic reasons made him president in 2016 when the US and global economy had been on the rise for some good years anyway, and also no economic reasons would make him lose his job if he lost it in two years. It is the ideological battle and the mobilisation of an electoral faction against another, motivated by mutual hatred. Democrat supporters vs. Republicans. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that Trump era won't continue even after there will be no Trump in the office. I think America is deeply divided and polarised - ideologically - and it will continue to be so even if Trump will lose the next elections. We see similar movements in Europe too. As I see it, at least for the moment there's no significant "moderate" trend in either party or electorate, nothing significant enough to bring back normal discourse and attitudes.
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Old 08.11.2018, 11:59
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Unemployment is the lowest since the early 70's, wages grew almost 5%,.

wages after accounting for CPI change? doubtful
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Remember when you told us the US was turning into a totalitarian state?

Muslim women, Native Americans, and LGBTQ candidates had a night of historic wins
Uh yeah - roughly 20 more women elected to the House. It's an improvement, sure. So now the House has roughly 1/4 women.

To balance that though, CNN reporter Acosta had his press credentials pulled because he asked about a campaign add and an altercation (manufactured, it seems) occured. Freedom of the Press? What's that?
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Uh yeah - roughly 20 more women elected to the House. It's an improvement, sure. So now the House has roughly 1/4 women.

To balance that though, CNN reporter Acosta had his press credentials pulled because he asked about a campaign add and an altercation (manufactured, it seems) occured. Freedom of the Press? What's that?
WH is trying to sell the idea that Acosta "laid his hands on her", regardless that's there's no evidence on the footage and the intern is the one grabbing and snatching at Acosta. No trace of irony from the POTUS who brags about grabbing women by the genitals and "moving on them like a bitch".
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So Trump and Muller are Australian ?
That is fake strewths
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To balance that though, CNN reporter Acosta had his press credentials pulled because he asked about a campaign add and an altercation (manufactured, it seems) occured. Freedom of the Press? What's that?
Well he carried on speaking after his time was up. Break the rules, get banned. The network hasn't been pulled, just the reporters credentials.

It's funny though, Sessions gets fired and people are talking about this.
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Well he carried on speaking after his time was up. Break the rules, get banned. The network hasn't been pulled, just the reporters credentials.
Nope. The reason given by the WH was because he apparently laid his hands on the intern.

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It's funny though, Sessions gets fired and people are talking about this.
Can't people talk about more than one subject? As far as the news channels and outlets go, Sessions' firing is getting more coverage.
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Nope. The reason given by the WH was because he apparently laid his hands on the intern.
If people can't agree on what they see then there's no point in discussion. Bottom line is he'd had his turn and should have given her the mic.
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If people can't agree on what they see then there's no point in discussion. Bottom line is he'd had his turn and should have given her the mic.
Well, if you are talking about how things should have been, he probably would have finished his session with the mic if Trump had listened to the question like an adult instead of having a meltdown.

Fact is that you thought Acosta had been banned for running over his allotted time, turns out he wasn't. It was because Trump couldn't handle the question then decided, unwisely, to accuse Acosta of something that didn't happen.

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Bottom line is he'd had his turn and should have given her the mic.
I agree with you on this - he did go over his time / quota of questions (or felt like it anyway, I dunno if there is a codified procedure) - but a lot of that was Trump evading/talking over the questions, so he was just being a persistent reporter I guess. If they want to ban him for that, OK, but it would be extremely petty.

What is inarguable is the accusation of him laying hands on the intern being blatantly false. Just watch the video, the most "aggressive" thing he does is move the mic away from her, whilst politely saying "excuse me, ma'am" and at no point does he initiate contact with her. Using this as an excuse, or even mentioning it, is tawdry in the extreme.
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Remember when you told us the US was turning into a totalitarian state?

Muslim women, Native Americans, and LGBTQ candidates had a night of historic wins
Encouraging as this was, every totalitarian state has its dissenters but it is still a totalitarian state?
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I agree with you on this - he did go over his time / quota of questions (or felt like it anyway, I dunno if there is a codified procedure) - but a lot of that was Trump evading/talking over the questions, so he was just being a persistent reporter I guess. If they want to ban him for that, OK, but it would be extremely petty.

What is inarguable is the accusation of him laying hands on the intern being blatantly false. Just watch the video, the most "aggressive" thing he does is move the mic away from her, whilst politely saying "excuse me, ma'am" and at no point does he initiate contact with her. Using this as an excuse, or even mentioning it, is tawdry in the extreme.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is facing accusations that she shared an edited video of the exchange between CNN correspondent Jim Acosta and an administration aide at President Trump's post-midterm news conference on Wednesday.

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China and the United States are locked in a trade war, but you wouldn't know it from looking at Chinese exports.

They leaped almost 16% in October compared with the same month a year earlier. That was significantly higher than analysts had forecast and even stronger than last month's growth.

The performance is surprising because October was the first full month during which new US tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods were in effect.
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US goods imports from China so far in 2018 ca $450K versus $505K for the whole of 2017
The US trade deficit is growing faster as US exports to China are down 10% vs the same period last year.

So far the Chinese seem to be winning
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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is facing accusations that she shared an edited video of the exchange between CNN correspondent Jim Acosta and an administration aide at President Trump's post-midterm news conference on Wednesday.


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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Any thoughts on how the next two years will pan out?

Obamacare repeal is now definitely off the table.

I always liked the idea of fixing the US infrastructure and probably the House will now be sympathetic to spending the money but likely the Senate will not?

Difficult to forecast where the abortion debate will finish up!

Social Security and Medicaid cuts will likely be stalled.

Changing libel laws is also off the table.

Building the wall is likely also off the table.

Cancelling all funding of sanctuary cities is unlikely.

I doubt "end birthright citizenship" will now happen?

Trump's tax returns will be released.
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Any thoughts on how the next two years will pan out?

Obamacare repeal is now definitely off the table.

I always liked the idea of fixing the US infrastructure and probably the House will now be sympathetic to spending the money but likely the Senate will not?

Difficult to forecast where the abortion debate will finish up!

Social Security and Medicaid cuts will likely be stalled.

Changing libel laws is also off the table.

Building the wall is likely also off the table.

Cancelling all funding of sanctuary cities is unlikely.

I doubt "end birthright citizenship" will now happen?

Trump's tax returns will be released.
I think it's important to understand Trump's creative financials, but if the House spends these two years piddling around with his nonsense, it's going to miss an opportunity to actually do something.

Maybe it's rose colored optimism, but I hope they actually do stuff, like infrastructure. Pressure on medicaid/medicare expansion, drug pricing and god forbid, some gun stuff. Not sure what they can do, but i hope it's productive and leads them to craft a message rather than hounding Trump, who will thrive on the attention.
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Shocking how he grabbed her by the ass
He pushed down on her upper arm just above the crook of the arm. That was a pretty good move, it weakened her grip on the microphon immediately.
Very simple - almost judo (might be?) - I will memorize that one actually.
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George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, has co-authored an op-ed calling President Trump’s move to replace ex-Attorney General Jeff Sessions “unconstitutional.”

The piece, published Thursday in the New York Times, asserts that Trump’s decision to appoint Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general is in violation of the Appointments Clause of the Constitution, which stipulates that principal officers must be confirmed by the Senate.
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He said “It’s illegal. And it means that anything Mr. Whitaker does, or tries to do, in that position is invalid.”
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