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Old 13.11.2018, 10:45
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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"Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker is fully committed to following all appropriate processes and procedures at the Department of Justice, including consulting with senior ethics officials on his oversight responsibilities and matters that may warrant recusal," Department of Justice (DOJ) spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said in a Monday statement.
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Imagine Trump's face if he recuses himself!
I doubt he will recuse despite some evidence of anti Mueller statements!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Anyway Gore did not try again in 2004, so far as I know no candidate who won the 'popular vote but lost the college ever tried again?
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Nah. Only one I remember who tried again and won was Nixon, and we all know how that turned out.
You guys suck at American history.
- Nixon did not win the popular vote against JFK.
- Grover Cleveland the 22nd and 24th president of the United States won the popular vote 1884, 1888, and 1892
- Andrew Jackson did win the popular vote 1824, but was only elected president 1828
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You guys suck at American history.
- Nixon did not win the popular vote against JFK.
- Grover Cleveland the 22nd and 24th president of the United States won the popular vote 1884, 1888, and 1892
- Andrew Jackson did win the popular vote 1824, but was only elected president 1828
I never said Nixon won the popular vote. He lost to jfk. And tried later. So no, I don‘t suck, I was imprecise. Maybe irrelevant. When has that ever stopped anyone before?
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You guys suck at American history.
- Nixon did not win the popular vote against JFK.
- Grover Cleveland the 22nd and 24th president of the United States won the popular vote 1884, 1888, and 1892
- Andrew Jackson did win the popular vote 1824, but was only elected president 1828
... but technically none of the above are examples of a president who won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College vote, then tried again later. In a four-way competition in 1824, Jackson actually achieved the greatest percentage of both the popular and Electoral College votes the first time around, but didn't achieve a majority of the latter. The problem was solved by a vote in the House of Representatives, which resulted in John Quincy Adams being elected President.

ETA: Ah, you're right, after his first term Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College to Harrison. Then he came back four years later to win his second term (winning the popular vote as well as the Electoral College). So he won the popular vote three elections in a row, but the Electoral College only twice, at his first and third attempts.
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All that said, the Constitution doesn't care who won the popular vote. It's merely a fun factoid that the media and fans of politics like to bring up now and then because it's unusual to win one but not the other.
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and Arlington cemetry remains unvisted by Spanky on Veterans Day despite being a few minutes away from the white house.


I reckon Spanky could literally take a dump on a military grave and his fans would excuse it.
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and Arlington cemetry remains unvisted by Spanky on Veterans Day despite being a few minutes away from the white house.
How is he supposed to get from Paris to the White House and then on to Arlington, all in the same day?

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How is he supposed to get from Paris to the White House and then on to Arlington, all in the same day?

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I‘m pretty sure he left Saturday. He had time.
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and Arlington cemetry remains unvisted by Spanky on Veterans Day despite being a few minutes away from the white house.


I reckon Spanky could literally take a dump on a military grave and his fans would excuse it.
Spanky can literally do *insert anything here* and his haters will lose their shit over it.
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How is he supposed to get from Paris to the White House and then on to Arlington, all in the same day?

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Is airforce 1 a Tante Ju?
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I‘m pretty sure he left Saturday. He had time.
Nope:

"Following his speech Sunday, Trump was scheduled to return to the U.S."

https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/...-dead-1.556303

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How is he supposed to get from Paris to the White House and then on to Arlington, all in the same day?

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Veterans Day was on Sunday, so it was observed on Monday (yesterday). Trump was back in Washington on Sunday evening and had absolutely nothing scheduled for Monday.

Here is a rolling calendar of his schedule.
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Veterans Day was on Sunday, so it was observed on Monday (yesterday). Trump was back in Washington on Sunday evening and had absolutely nothing scheduled for Monday.

Here is a rolling calendar of his schedule.

So only public events count as work for a president?
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Veterans Day was on Sunday, so it was observed on Monday (yesterday).
The public holiday was observed on Monday, Veterans Day itself was still Sunday.

(it is still a fixed date, as is July 4th, unlike Memorial Day, which was moved to Monday 50 years ago).

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So only public events count as work for a president?
What are you talking about? Did you have a look at the schedule that I linked? Or do you consider "The President receives his intelligence briefing", for example, a public event?
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People forget that Hillary won the popular vote; she would not have to change much to improve her electoral college results. Not that I am a Hillary fan but facts is facts!
It is also clear from the mid terms that there ever more voters who are not Trump supporters
Now tell me what's wrong with that interview, that she wants to run again? Well, it's normal, if she didn't want to be a president, she would have not run for the first time either. She lost also because she had Trump as opponent, I think she could have won against anyone else coming from a similar environment. She never dealt with that type of micro-aggressions and strikes under the belt in which ahem, certain people are versed. So yeah, she lost it a few times during the campaign but who wouldn't....anyway, she probably won't run again.
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All that said, the Constitution doesn't care who won the popular vote. It's merely a fun factoid that the media and fans of politics like to bring up now and then because it's unusual to win one but not the other.
I don't think that's true, with winning the popular vote defined as getting at least 50% +1 vote of all valid votes cast, which is the equivalent WRT to electors.

AFAIK there are always a few loose cannons running, not that few people vote for persons who didn't run in the first place, etc. Even if they garner just a few percentage points, considering the tight races in the last 20-30 years that may be easily enough to keep both the GOP and the Dem candidate below the 50% threshold in most cases.

Hilary for instance won only 48.2% vs 46.1%, according to Wiki. Obviously she got more votes but neither won the absolute majority.
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Was that before or after he launched his Twitter tirade against Macron?
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What are you talking about? Did you have a look at the schedule that I linked? Or do you consider "The President receives his intelligence briefing", for example, a public event?
Absolutely! It's (would be) benefitting the public - if it were effective.
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