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Old 10.01.2017, 16:46
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I guess Twitter is not the same as email as tweets are public.

I also guess the IT boffins in the White House can rig something up that would address the security problems.
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Old 10.01.2017, 16:48
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I wouldn't mind if she does something to further infuriate the outrage crowd, and challenge their sensibilities. Maybe she can promote catwalking schools, or proper make-up courses.
Every so often the mantle slips and the true colours come out, don't they. You don't give two hoots about "MAGA" you simply have a rumbling bitterness.

Your own fury gets clearer as the thread progresses.
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Old 10.01.2017, 16:50
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Every so often the mantle slips and the true colours come out, don't they. You don't give two hoots about "MAGA" you simply have a rumbling bitterness.

Your own fury gets clearer as the thread progresses.
Ahaha. That bitterness is yours, not mine.

Here's another sign of MAGA up ahead:
U.S. Small-Business Optimism Index Surges by Most Since 1980

Eat your hearts out!
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Old 10.01.2017, 16:53
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Agree, I know too little about her in order to pass a judgement....and then again, it's not her who will be running the country.
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This is what Hillary did and look where it had gotten her...
Heh.
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Old 10.01.2017, 16:59
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I also guess the IT boffins in the White House can rig something up that would address the security problems.
They could ask the Russians...
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Old 10.01.2017, 17:02
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Heh.
I think Greenmount was referring to Hillary's email server story as her "breaking the mold" moment.

Nothing to do with her being outspoken.

Or maybe I've just lost the plot here. Too many discussions going on in parallel.
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Old 10.01.2017, 17:04
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I think Greenmount was referring to Hillary's email server story as her "breaking the mold" moment.

Nothing to do with her being outspoken.

Or maybe I've just lost the plot here. Too many discussions going on in parallel.
Hillary, as First Lady, tried to re-engineer US Healthcare. Back then, it was dubbed Clintoncare. It failed miserably. Afterwards, she ranted about a vast right wing conspiracy. Very lady like.
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The last I heard she was being accused of making a speech too like Michelle's.

I guess there's no pleasing everyone.


That is what I mean. there are models that are very smart, but Melania just made a sort of copy of Michelle's speech which no one appreciated...


I don't know anything about politics, but I am just not fond of aggressive people like Don... who freak out and loose the temper quickly, D. Needs some meditation courses to keep calm in difficult moments!
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Old 10.01.2017, 17:46
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She's definitely overdoing it with the botox rather than taking her age with dignity as many past first ladies have done. When it comes to taking on compassionate roles or drumming up support for causes and charities as first ladies typically do, the slightly senior lady type of person with its mix of feminine compassion and yet taking no sh*t definitely does have an edge in the credibility department. So Melania's clinging to some artificial eternal imaginary youth is sad, but it's her choice.
I don't think it is her choice, actually - but that is their thing and not mine. Whatever it is between them.

Just like I couldn't care less how Clinton spent his presidential free time, nor his wife. I am not taking politicians for life coaches nor role-models and worry a bit about those who do.

To be fair - I doubt Trump has married her for credibility or MAGA skills, why should he and why should he pretend to now.

Whether she feels well in her aging skin is probably irrelevant to us, I hope so.

Not sure how Hillary feels in hers.
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who freak out and loose the temper quickly, D. Needs some meditation courses to keep calm in difficult moments!
Dude, he doesn't need meditation, he needs some serious medication. And of course he needs not be anywhere near the Oval Office. He is simply a 70-year old spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum whenever something doesn't go his way. That's it.
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Old 10.01.2017, 18:05
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I guess Twitter is not the same as email as tweets are public.

I also guess the IT boffins in the White House can rig something up that would address the security problems.
Should not be too difficult for skilled hackers to access Trumps Abdroid phone and start sending Presidential tweets; so long as they do not declare war
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

What do we think about the appointment of first son-in-law Jared Kushner as top White House advisor?

I am on the fence about this one, for the following reasons: on one hand, I am tempted to cry murder because of my dislike of the lot, and it's undeniable that it is a highly controversial move. On the other hand, debatable or not, it would appear that this type of appointment is not illegal, and most certainly not unprecedented.

President Kennedy appointed his brother Robert for a top position (attorney general) - which prompted the the 1967 anti-nepotism law - and so did President Clinton with his wife Hillary (I think it was a task force lead committee appointment?).

I listened to a very good discussion this morning on NPR about why the 1967 anti-nepotism law may or may not apply in this case, and frankly, it sounds to me like it will all come down to the ability of lawyers to interpret/take advantage of the legalese - on one hand, (paraphrased) public officials may not appoint family members for top positions at the agencies in which they serve or which they control; on the other hand, some argue, the White House does not fall into the "agency" definition, and the President has absolute discretion in the appointment of WH staff and advisors.

It was reported that Mr. Kushner is planning on divesting from some of his businesses to minimize potential conflicts, but the extent is not clear so far.

Good summary on NPR website.
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What do we think about the appointment of first son-in-law Jared Kushner as top White House advisor?
The definition and role of Senior Advisor has been somewhat flexible, and have changed from one administration to another. I'm not sure if it is still considered a cabinet position, but it doesn't really lead a department. Generally, I think a President should be able to have any advisor he wishes.

I think Jared was brought in because he is smart, and adds to some sense of trust. He's very well tempered and even avoids publicity. I think he would bring in some cohesion amongst all the egos already in the room. I would want to keep a close eye on all those other characters, and I would want someone I can trust.

The Democrats may try to fling dirt on any of Trump's appointees, but it does not look like they can succeed in denying any of them.

Good to know though that Jared, the orthodox Jew, will be working alongside Bannon, the alleged white supremacist neo-Nazi. Ye another Fake News Media fail.
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This is what Hillary did and look where it had gotten her...
Wenn zwei dasselbe tun, ist es noch lange nicht das selbe.

I trust there's an equivalent proverb in English.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Kushner and nepotism. Wasn't the 1967 law passed as a consequence of Kennedy? Although, Bobby did go through a confirmation process. If Kushner is an advisor, and there could be more lattitude with those sorts of positions, just as with Hillary Clinton serving on a task force. Maybe.

Kushner is no stellar intellect, but DT probably doesn't need/want that...i mean, he knows it all, right?

As I said before, Kushner is loyal, he seems quiet and respectable, good family man, and his observant Jewishness adds some measure of diversity.

Kushner and Bannon are both pragmatic, so they can work together as needed....it proves nothing more than that. Bannon makes my skin crawl because of his association with Breitbart - it's probably just like some of your reactions to Hillary Clinton.

As for Mrs Trump. She's 45 years old, with lots of money and time for beauty. She has lines and wrinkles, but she's probably had fillers and injections. She looks good, perhaps a bit too made up. Doesn't look like she's had a lot of work done...her face hasn't got that tight look yet. She knows how to pose ...that might have more to do with her look than a lot of work. I'd far rather see her and listen to her than that Kellyanne person.
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Wenn zwei dasselbe tun, ist es noch lange nicht das selbe.

I trust there's an equivalent proverb in English.
Sure -- in English it's quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
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Sure -- in English it's quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
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And then Obama drops 26,171 bombs.


To date, Trump has proven the following to be failures:
-The Republican Party
-The Democratic Party
-US Presidential races
-Mainstream news media
-Meryl Streep

I think he's on course to prove many more failures:
-The Nobel Prize
-The UN
-The Pope
-etc

I am really enjoying how he is overturning conventional wisdom and debunking sacred cows. I would get bored and disappointed if he were to stop.

I find it entertaining when liberals howl for all the wrong reasons.
I find this whole Streep business to be childish, but the child in me did laugh at this tweet
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Mr. Sessions, Mr. Trump’s nominee for attorney general, through his leadership PAC has donated $42,500 to seven of the eight Republican senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which today are conducting his confirmation hearing.
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Lucky the swamp was drained!
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Lucky the swamp was drained!
Drained to make more room for the ever growing crowd.
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