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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Major US stock indices in melt down again, currently Dow is below 23,000 at levels not seen since October 2017. Of course there are 3 hours of trading left today so it could bounce up again!

One major problem is it looks increasingly likely there will be a Government shutdown tomorrow. Despite the GOP majority in Congress they have so far been unable to agree the wording for a new Government funding bill and then vote on it!!
Not helping is the fact that dozens of Republican lawmakers — many of them who are either retiring or lost their mid term races have simply checked out for the year — are not in Washington this week.
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The GOP have so far demonstrated for most of the past two years that they are completely unable to settle their internal differences and so govern the country!

Did I ever post that you could not make this stuff up
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Major US stock indices in melt down again, currently Dow is below 23,000 at levels not seen since October 2017. Of course there are 3 hours of trading left today so it could bounce up again!

One major problem is it looks increasingly likely there will be a Government shutdown tomorrow. Despite the GOP majority in Congress they have so far been unable to agree the wording for a new Government funding bill and then vote on it!!
Not helping is the fact that dozens of Republican lawmakers — many of them who are either retiring or lost their mid term races have simply checked out for the year — are not in Washington this week.
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The GOP have so far demonstrated for most of the past two years that they are completely unable to settle their internal differences and so govern the country!

Did I ever post that you could not make this stuff up
Please don't post fake news.
We are all aware that Trump wants families families to be together for Christmas and even closes all government services to achieve that.
What a great family man!
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Major US stock indices in melt down again, currently Dow is below 23,000 at levels not seen since October 2017. Of course there are 3 hours of trading left today so it could bounce up again!

One major problem is it looks increasingly likely there will be a Government shutdown tomorrow. Despite the GOP majority in Congress they have so far been unable to agree the wording for a new Government funding bill and then vote on it!!
Not helping is the fact that dozens of Republican lawmakers — many of them who are either retiring or lost their mid term races have simply checked out for the year — are not in Washington this week.
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The GOP have so far demonstrated for most of the past two years that they are completely unable to settle their internal differences and so govern the country!

Did I ever post that you could not make this stuff up
Latest scuttlebutt is that the House are under some extreme pressure from Trump to pass a new Govt. funding Bill including 5 Billion for building a wall. It is less than clear that the House has enough supportive GOP votes on Friday in Washington to be able to do this!
Even if they do manage to scramble together enough GOP votes to vote this through the House, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said many members [Senators] have returned to their home states for the holidays so there may not be enough Republicans remaining in Washington to pass yet another spending bill with border-wall funding even assuming they could manage to schedule a new vote on Friday.

Did I ever post that you could not make this stuff up?

Basic issue is that Trump is chaotic; lots of tactics but no strategy so that even his supporters do not know how to support him day to day!
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Old 20.12.2018, 21:33
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Will be Friday in a couple of hours!!!
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.),current chairman of the Senate's Committee on Foreign Relations, who is retiring in early January, started laughing when he was told of Trump's decision [not to sign the Govt. funding Bill].

"Well, why not?" he quipped, asked why he was laughing, adding that he was "not really" surprised by Trump's decision.

"On this? I don't know. Y'all have fun.
I'm getting ready to fly to Chattanooga. ...[Leadership] has no guidance right now," Corker said, asked what happened next.
"I think they're just sort of swirling around over there at the White House."

Asked if he thought the continuing resolution (CR) could still be signed, Corker added that it's impossible to predict what Trump will do.

"I don't know. ... Who knows. Does the person sitting behind him at the White House know? Who would know?
Who would know," Corker said. "I love it, you can't make this stuff up." .
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Old 20.12.2018, 23:37
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Another fine person destroyed by Trump!
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General Jim Mattis will be retiring, with distinction, at the end of February, after having served my Administration as Secretary of Defense for the past two years.
During Jim’s tenure, tremendous progress has been made, especially with respect to the purchase of new fighting equipment.
General Mattis was a great help to me in getting allies and other countries to pay their share of military obligations.
A new Secretary of Defense will be named shortly. I greatly thank Jim for his service!
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Rumour has it that Mattis was less than happy to be informed by tweet that his military are withdrawing from Syria.
Rumour also has it that the favourite for Secretary of Defense is Mulvaney; on the basis that nobody else will work for Trump!
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Old 21.12.2018, 00:01
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Rumour has it that Mattis was less than happy to be informed by tweet that his military are withdrawing from Syria.
Rumour also has it that the favourite for Secretary of Defense is Mulvaney; on the basis that nobody else will work for Trump!
Here you can read Mattis's resignation letter. If you were so inclined then you might find some subtle criticism of Trump here!

Edit; some relevant comment here
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If you were so inclined then you might find some subtle criticism of Trump here!
You call this 'subtle'?

"One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies."
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Wonderful, even the phrasing is not aligned with Trump's:

<<Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position.>>
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Seems Spanky has painted himself into corner over funding for his wall.
He pressured the House into approving a Bill with $5+ Billion for a wall.

The Senate will not approve such wall funding; indeed at the moment it seems the Senate does not have enough votes to even put this Bill on the Senate agenda to vote on!

So will Spanky force a Govt. shut down with no prospect of a way out?
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The Senate will not approve such wall funding; indeed at the moment it seems the Senate does not have enough votes to even put this Bill on the Senate agenda to vote on!
Considering that is decided by the vote of a single snapping turtle a.k.a Mitch McConnell it is really not much support.

The Turtle is known for two things: He will not put something on the agenda which will not pass (unless to tease the democrats) AND he will not put something on the agenda which could benefit the democrats.

This strategy backfired once. This shithead of Majority Leader even had to filibuster his very own bill as it suddenly gained Democratic approval. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.98d1842587e6
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As we approach the end of Trump's second year as President, the outlook is not so great.

The major stock indices all crashed again today down to levels not seen since September 2017. Currently on track to be the worst December since the Great Depression in the '30s.

Trump's 2017 tax cuts were supposed to encourage companies to invest in their businesses and create jobs. In reality they spent over $1 trillion buying back their shares so creating no new jobs plus driving share prices up to unsustainable levels which prices are now crashing down again!

Trumps war on immigrants is all tangled up in the Courts, even the Supreme Court refuses to restore Trump's temporary asylum restrictions
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Trump is fast approaching a Government close down over his failed request for a Wall budget but the logical path to replace this close down with an approved budget to build the wall is not known. Currently at the time of posting the US Senate has no agreed process to even vote [reject] today on the House approved Bill that includes the wall budget.

Trump's trade war has produced no quick wins and seems to be in for the long haul; Trump's tariffs on imports have to be paid by the US companies who import such products so they in reality face a new tax which impacts their profitability and competitive pricing.

The new NAFTA (the United States Canada Mexico Agreement (USMCA) ) was supposed to be approved by Congress this year but seems to have vanished down a rabbit hole. So far the White House has not yet made a formal proposal to Congress detailing their requirements.

General Mattis, the last adult in the Trump administration, has resigned over Trump's chaotic and unhinged approach to foreign policy.
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Considering that is decided by the vote of a single snapping turtle a.k.a Mitch McConnell it is really not much support.

The Turtle is known for two things: He will not put something on the agenda which will not pass (unless to tease the democrats) AND he will not put something on the agenda which could benefit the democrats.

This strategy backfired once. This shithead of Majority Leader even had to filibuster his very own bill as it suddenly gained Democratic approval. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.98d1842587e6
According to the "fake news" media; retiring Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a frequent Trump critic, joined Democrats in opposing the motion to proceed to the bill, leaving the measure one GOP defection away from failure.
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According to the "fake news" media; retiring Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a frequent Trump critic, joined Democrats in opposing the motion to proceed to the bill, leaving the measure one GOP defection away from failure.
So the Govt. funding Bill was never voted on by the Senate as they were unable to get the votes to agree to proceed to the vote on the Bill.

Republican Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker said on the Senate floor that an "understanding has been reached" that the Senate will not take any further votes related to the funding issue "until a global agreement has been reached between the President" and congressional leaders.

The Senate did vote unanimously to pay Govt. workers back pay after the Govt. resumes but there was no matching vote in the House.

Funding for roughly a quarter of the federal government then expired at midnight, including appropriations for the Departments of Homeland Security, Justice, Housing and Urban Development, and other parts of the government.

Federal workers are exempted from furloughs (leave of absences) if their jobs are national security-related or if they perform essential activities that "protect life and property".

According to a Democratic report on the Senate Appropriations Committee, more than 420,000 federal employees deemed essential would continue to work without pay during a partial shutdown, including about 41,000 law enforcement and corrections officers and nearly 150,000 Homeland Security employees.

Meanwhile, more than 380,000 employees will be furloughed — including nearly all of NASA and Housing and Urban Development and 41,000 Commerce Department employees.

More details here of the effect on different Departments
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

This guy has a strange concept of beauty.
Apparently he believes the Dems opposition to the wall is aesthetic not that they think it will be ineffective and a huge waste of money?

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Edit; BTW, the wheels on the vehicle are oval! Probably they stretched the picture to make the fence look taller?
Also note the zoomed in fence tops are a different shape than the wide view ones
Also if you assume the vehicle is 5m long then the gaps between the fence slats are wide enough to squeeze through!
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If Spanky does get funds to build his steel fence then it is probably a good time to buy shares in companies that make magnetic climbing equipment

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Dear Marton, you are the biggest anti-Trump I know.
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You need to get out more!
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This guy has a strange concept of beauty.
Apparently he believes the Dems opposition to the wall is aesthetic not that they think it will be ineffective and a huge waste of money?

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Edit; BTW, the wheels on the vehicle are oval! Probably they stretched the picture to make the fence look taller?
Also note the zoomed in fence tops are a different shape than the wide view ones
Also if you assume the vehicle is 5m long then the gaps between the fence slats are wide enough to squeeze through!
My Xmas wish. Please Mr Trump get that wall built!!! It will certainly go a long way towards keeping the Amis enclosed. Please!!!
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This guy has a strange concept of beauty.
Apparently he believes the Dems opposition to the wall is aesthetic not that they think it will be ineffective and a huge waste of money?

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Edit; BTW, the wheels on the vehicle are oval! Probably they stretched the picture to make the fence look taller?
Also note the zoomed in fence tops are a different shape than the wide view ones
Also if you assume the vehicle is 5m long then the gaps between the fence slats are wide enough to squeeze through!
It's time to invest in the Chinese steel industry!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As posted earlier, General Mattis now joins the ranks of ex-Trump employees whose reputations are shredded!
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When President Obama ingloriously fired Jim Mattis, I gave him a second chance. Some thought I shouldn’t, I thought I should. Interesting relationship-but I also gave all of the resources that he never really had. Allies are very important-but not when they take advantage of U.S.
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Looks like this Govt. shutdown will run for a long time.
The Dems believe Trump is blamed so they are in no hurry.
Trump himself does not really understand what Govt. employees do all day and thinks they are a waste of money and space so he is in no hurry either.

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