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Old 27.12.2018, 12:29
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Soon to be congresswoman Cortez has reminded all about the refuge of refuges:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b05c88b6fcfbe7
Interesting. I was taught it was about a population census and being registered for tax purposes.
So what is her message to the refugees?
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Old 27.12.2018, 13:07
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Interesting. I was taught it was about a population census and being registered for tax purposes.
So what is her message to the refugees?
Pope Francis: ‘Jesus Was A Refugee’

“We believe that Jesus was a refugee, had to flee to save his life, with Saint Joseph and Mary, had to leave for Egypt,” Pope Francis said.
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Interesting. I was taught it was about a population census and being registered for tax purposes.
So what is her message to the refugees?
Her message is not directed at refugees, it‘s directed to the general population (more specifically Trumpsters ) who would paint refugees as undesirable, criminal, bad.
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Old 27.12.2018, 14:20
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Spanky getting desperate

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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Have the Democrats finally realized that we desperately need Border Security and a Wall on the Southern Border.
Need to stop Drugs, Human Trafficking,Gang Members & Criminals from coming into our Country.
Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?

1:06 PM - 27 Dec 2018
"Most not paid are Democrats" Another barefaced lie?
Maybe one day Spanky will remember he is supposed to be the President of all Americans?

It is only a week ago he tweeted "People are losing sight of the great job being done on our Southern Border by Border Patrol, ICE and our great Military.
Remember the Caravans? Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way.
Border is tight."

It is tragi-comedy!
The Dems have a video of Trump saying he is responsible for the shutdown so they have no pressure on them to negotiate about the Wall.

In Trump's alternative world he believes he can spin the Dems to be responsible despite their obvious complete lack of interest!

Meanwhile MSNBC beat out Fox News last week in key ratings for first time in 17 years, topping its competitor in total viewers for the first time since 2000. Some light in the darkness!
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Trump lied brazenly in a speech to US troops in Iraq on Christmas Day, claiming that he had secured them their first pay rise in more than 10 years, and a big one at that: more than 10%.

All of which is true, except for everything he said. Military personnel have received a pay rise every year since 1983. Their pay rise this year was 2.6% (around the same level as last year). It wasn't Trump who determined the size of the pay rise.

How does he get away with the constant lying?
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Interesting. I was taught it was about a population census and being registered for tax purposes.
So what is her message to the refugees?
Received wisdom amongst believers in the Bible is that Christ's family fled from Judea to Egypt to escape Herod's Massacre of the Innocents just after Jesus was born. Nobody claimed that Joseph and Mary moved to Bethlehem as refugees.
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How does he get away with the constant lying?
Easy. He's just made it the new norm.

It's probably simpler to point out when what comes out of his mouth or his tweeter actually matches up with reality. Which doesn't seem to be that often.
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Old 27.12.2018, 15:51
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Trump lied brazenly in a speech to US troops in Iraq on Christmas Day, claiming that he had secured them their first pay rise in more than 10 years, and a big one at that: more than 10%.

All of which is true, except for everything he said. Military personnel have received a pay rise every year since 1983. Their pay rise this year was 2.6% (around the same level as last year). It wasn't Trump who determined the size of the pay rise.

How does he get away with the constant lying?
Because he has a base that believe every word!

I have an old friend, originally from Scotland, who is a rabid Trump fan. He refuses to face reality and believes every Trump word even when I can show him black and white evidence to the contrary.

My friend once circulated the story that Donald Trump personally sent out a airplane from his Tower Air airline to bring home U.S. military members stranded in the Middle East.

I pointed out Tower Air was co-founded, majority owned, and managed by Morris K. Nachtomi, an Israeli citizen who had emigrated to the United States and Trump never had any involvement.

His reply was I was maligning the reputation of a very generous man!
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Old 27.12.2018, 16:08
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Pope Francis: ‘Jesus Was A Refugee’

“We believe that Jesus was a refugee, had to flee to save his life, with Saint Joseph and Mary, had to leave for Egypt,” Pope Francis said.
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Hmmm-h. Catholics are known for changing the bible to their needs. Reincarnation for example (Konzils von Kostantinopel im Jahr 553) was seriously not promotional for sale of letters of indulgence.

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Received wisdom amongst believers in the Bible is that Christ's family fled from Judea to Egypt to escape Herod's Massacre of the Innocents just after Jesus was born. Nobody claimed that Joseph and Mary moved to Bethlehem as refugees.
Ahhh, the devil is in the detail
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Trump lied brazenly in a speech to US troops in Iraq on Christmas Day, claiming that he had secured them their first pay rise in more than 10 years, and a big one at that: more than 10%.

All of which is true, except for everything he said. Military personnel have received a pay rise every year since 1983. Their pay rise this year was 2.6% (around the same level as last year). It wasn't Trump who determined the size of the pay rise.

How does he get away with the constant lying?
Again you are wrong: it feels like they have the first pay raise in 10 years. The perceived raise is about 10%.

The reason is that Trump has a gift similar to Jesus in the story of 5 loafs of bread and 2 fishes: he can make 10% out of only 2.6%.
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Because he has a base that believe every word!

I have an old friend, originally from Scotland, who is a rabid Trump fan. He refuses to face reality and believes every Trump word even when I can show him black and white evidence to the contrary.

My friend once circulated the story that Donald Trump personally sent out a airplane from his Tower Air airline to bring home U.S. military members stranded in the Middle East.

I pointed out Tower Air was co-founded, majority owned, and managed by Morris K. Nachtomi, an Israeli citizen who had emigrated to the United States and Trump never had any involvement.

His reply was I was maligning the reputation of a very generous man!
Hmmmm, I know a Scottish chap, rabid Spanky fan, thinks Kavanaugh was ill treated, continues to bring up Uranium One as a thing despite its complete debunking, completely unable to face facts, it couldn't be...….
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Well, given that half of us believe that communion wafer and wine is literally the flesh and blood of Christ because we've been told that, and the other half believe they should have a fight with them about it because they have been told it isn't, then it isn't hugely surprising that we get some Trumpers taking everything he says at face value!
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Old 27.12.2018, 20:48
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The reason the DACA for Wall deal didn’t get done was that a ridiculous court decision from the 9th Circuit allowed DACA to remain, thereby setting up a Supteme Court case.
After ruling, Dems dropped deal - and that’s where we are today, Democrat obstruction of the needed Wall.

8:35 PM - 27 Dec 2018
That darn Supteme Court!

The Dem offer of "DACA for Wall deal" was in January.
The 9th Circuit ruling was in November; long after Trump rejected the Dem offer!
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Interesting. I was taught it was about a population census and being registered for tax purposes.
So what is her message to the refugees?
The reason Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem was for the census and tax purposes.

However, after Jesus was born, the family fled to Egypt because Herod had ordered the killing of all boys under the age of two.

It was this flight that leads to Jesus' being known as a refugee.
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The reason Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem was for the census and tax purposes.

However, after Jesus was born, the family fled to Egypt because Herod had ordered the killing of all boys under the age of two.

It was this flight that leads to Jesus' being known as a refugee.
"Most modern biographers of Herod, and probably a majority of biblical scholars, dismiss Matthew's story as an invention."

- Wikipedia
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The reason Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem was for the census and tax purposes.

However, after Jesus was born, the family fled to Egypt because Herod had ordered the killing of all boys under the age of two.

It was this flight that leads to Jesus' being known as a refugee.
It would be helpful if you read the thread before posting. That way you'd avoid repeating information already given.

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Received wisdom amongst believers in the Bible is that Christ's family fled from Judea to Egypt to escape Herod's Massacre of the Innocents just after Jesus was born. Nobody claimed that Joseph and Mary moved to Bethlehem as refugees.
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"Most modern biographers of Herod, and probably a majority of biblical scholars, dismiss Matthew's story as an invention."

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Indeed, hence my attribution of the claim to "received wisdom amongst believers in the Bible".
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It would be helpful if you read the thread before posting. That way you'd avoid repeating information already given.




Indeed, hence my attribution of the claim to "received wisdom amongst believers in the Bible".
Imagine if we just let Middle Eastern tradesmen fleeing persecution into our country. They'd be stealing all our Polish people's job, it's a disgrace!
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Old 28.12.2018, 10:05
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"Most modern biographers of Herod, and probably a majority of biblical scholars, dismiss Matthew's story as an invention."

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So nothing definite then. Always tickles me that Herod's first wife was named Doris.
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So nothing definite then.
There's no definite proof of the Massacre of the Innocents, either, which leads most rational people to put it in the same basket as Noah's Ark and the loaves and the fishes.

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Always tickles me that Herod's first wife was named Doris.
Yeah, he did well on the wife collection front: nine in total. I guess that when you've had that many wives, there's bound to be a Doris somewhere in the mix.

So anyway, no, I don't think Trump will be is a good president.
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Old 28.12.2018, 10:56
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There's no definite proof of the Massacre of the Innocents, either, which leads most rational people to put it in the same basket as Noah's Ark and the loaves and the fishes.


Yeah, he did well on the wife collection front: nine in total. I guess that when you've had that many wives, there's bound to be a Doris somewhere in the mix.

So anyway, no, I don't think Trump will be is a good president.
But the OP post about refugees was directed at the racist Trump supporters who believe all that stuff.
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