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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Another example of how good a president Spanky is, mention of his name results in an embarassed silence.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ch/2898828002/

You can find it on youtube just by searching for 'embarassed silence', it's hilarious, I think it would have been less awkward if he'd said he'd blown Spanky in the Oval Office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k563jOUybkU
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Old 18.02.2019, 15:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Wow, so many lies by now disgraced acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe. He was fired for lying, and now his story gets even more deranged.

He and Rod Rosenstein, who was hired by Jeff Sessions (another beauty), look like they were planning a very illegal act, and got caught

There is a lot of explaining to do to the millions of people who had just elected a president who they really like and who has done a great job for them with the Military, Vets, Economy and so much more.

This was the illegal and treasonous “insurance policy” in full action!

1:29 PM - 18 Feb 2019
Even after all this time it is hard to believe these weird tweets come direct from the US President.

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Rosenstein was not hired by Jeff Sessions; President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on February 1, 2017.

Utilising the 25th Amendment to remove a President is not illegal, it is constitutional.

BTW, despite resignation rumours Rosenstein is still in the DOJ.

Strange how Trump often refers to himself as a third party?
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Old 18.02.2019, 20:42
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I thought this was the perfect Trump description from the British perspective:

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Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

'My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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I thought this was the perfect Trump description from the British perspective:
Bravo, just bravo. Spanky fans, this is why you attract disdain, or more accurately, contemptuous pity, I wonder if we'll see a similarly erudite rebuttal from Spanky's camp or something more akin to 'Nate White, he's a shite'
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Old 19.02.2019, 15:18
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

He's back:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46965281

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A couple of today's tweets
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I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI.
I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)!
Trump really is weird; I mean surely he has a million more important things to talk about than what he said about someone's wife.
He is the self confessed pussy grabber in chief!!

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Remember this, Andrew McCabe didn’t go to the bathroom without the approval of Leakin’ James Comey!
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Trump really is weird; I mean surely he has a million more important things to talk about than what he said about someone's wife.
He is the self confessed pussy grabber in chief!!

Edit - and even wierder
He doesn't deny calling his wife a loser to everyone else though. Kindergarten stuff.

I guess if he was the bathroom monitor, that's why they called him leakin' Comey.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Important meetings and calls on China Trade Deal, and more, today with my staff. Big progress being made on soooo many different fronts!
Our Country has such fantastic potential for future growth and greatness on an even higher level!

1:00 PM - 17 Feb 2019
With this and other tweets Spanky is claiming big progress that is clearly not happening.
There are no announcements from the China side and no White House leaks.
Spanky is painting himself into a corner.

My guess is that he will follow his NAFTA2 playbook. That is he will agree a mediocre deal and announce it as a great victory. But not take it to Congress for review and approval so it will never be fully understood or implemented.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

More wannabe dictator behavour from Spanky, trying to bypass Congress to rush through the transfer of nuclear power plant technology to Saudi Arabia.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...181918317.html

Just let that sink in, Saudi Arabia wants nuclear power plants, a country swimming in oil wants nuclear power. Well why not? if they want to waste their money, it's not like the tech is restricted because it's the same science used to make bombs, no wait, oooooooohhhhhhh.

So Spanky wants the madman who just had a journalist murdered and dismembered to step onto the path of developing nuclear weapons.

#awkward
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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The United States is asking Britain, France, Germany and other European allies to take back over 800 ISIS fighters that we captured in Syria and put them on trial. The Caliphate is ready to fall.
The alternative is not a good one in that we will be forced to release them........
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declared Wednesday that an Alabama woman will not be allowed to return to the U.S. after traveling to Syria to join ISIS in 2014.

Lawyers for Muthana’s family have told several media outlets she is a citizen, having been born in the U.S.

She was married to three different ISIS fighters, two of whom died fighting, and had a child with one.

Source

Just your usual every day hypocrisy.
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The United States is asking Britain, France, Germany and other European allies to take back over 800 ISIS fighters that we captured in Syria and put them on trial. The Caliphate is ready to fall.
The alternative is not a good one in that we will be forced to release them........
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declared Wednesday that an Alabama woman will not be allowed to return to the U.S. after traveling to Syria to join ISIS in 2014.

Lawyers for Muthana’s family have told several media outlets she is a citizen, having been born in the U.S.

She was married to three different ISIS fighters, two of whom died fighting, and had a child with one.

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Just your usual every day hypocrisy.
and now Trump chimes in

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I have instructed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and he fully agrees, not to allow Hoda Muthana back into the Country!

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday suggested that there is a "deep state" in the U.S. government working against President Trump.

Putin's remark came during his state-of-the-nation speech Wednesday,

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Sounds like he is worried about his asset
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Lawyers for Muthana’s family have told several media outlets she is a citizen, having been born in the U.S.
However, her father was a foreign diplomat, so it is not clear if she is a US citizen as obtaining US citizenship by being born in the US does not apply to children of foreign diplomats.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday suggested that there is a "deep state" in the U.S. government working against President Trump.

Putin's remark came during his state-of-the-nation speech Wednesday,

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Sounds like he is worried about his asset
I thought Trump was the deep state.
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Just let that sink in, Saudi Arabia wants nuclear power plants, a country swimming in oil wants nuclear power. Well why not? if they want to waste their money, it's not like the tech is restricted because it's the same science used to make bombs, no wait, oooooooohhhhhhh.
Certainly you're aware of the allegations concerning Iran, so far at least they've proven completely unfounded.

There's your reason, Trump makes sure he's proven right because it will force Iran to get the bomb as well. Oh, and he doesn't mind the dollars, of course.
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Certainly you're aware of the allegations concerning Iran, so far at least they've proven completely unfounded.

There's your reason, Trump makes sure he's proven right because it will force Iran to get the bomb as well. Oh, and he doesn't mind the dollars, of course.
Fair point, it *could* be legit, though Iran has been building on their program to research how to make weapons while not actually starting to make them. North Korea has certainly shown that the way to get taken seriously is to have nuclear weapons, or as Spanky says, 'to have nuclear'.

Sadly I can see Iran going down that path; if the U.S. treat them as not being compliant the they have little motiviation to continue to be compliant.

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However, her father was a foreign diplomat, so it is not clear if she is a US citizen as obtaining US citizenship by being born in the US does not apply to children of foreign diplomats.

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The UK press are saying she is not a US Citizen.
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The UK press are saying she is not a US Citizen.
She must be a citizen of somewhere else, then (presumably her father's country), so for once Trump is probably within rights to ban her. She may even be a citizen of one of his shit list countries, therefore automatically banned.

ETA: Having said there, the BBC reports that Muthana's lawyer has said: "Hoda Muthana had a valid US passport and is a citizen. She was born in Hackensack, NJ in October 1994, months after her father stopped being [a] diplomat."

How could she have had a US passport if she wasn't a US citizen?

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If reids' and marton's ramblings weren't enough, we now have conclusive evidence that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'staged hoax attack over salary'
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If reids' and marton's ramblings weren't enough, we now have conclusive evidence that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'staged hoax attack over salary'
You are putting me in the same group as Smollett?

So who shall we group you with? Following your approach of plucking random names out of the news with no rationale provided then how about Derek Hatton?
Other suggestions welcomed; no rationale required
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