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Old 21.02.2019, 21:14
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If reids' and marton's ramblings weren't enough, we now have conclusive evidence that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'staged hoax attack over salary'
And just how stupid was Jessie Smollet?? He now faces felony charges for "false reporting" with a penalty of up to 3 years imprisonment... Curious to see if his lawyers can work a plea bargain but my sense is: this incident raised far too much outrage to simply dismiss with a plea deal. We shall see...
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Old 21.02.2019, 21:16
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And just how stupid was Jessie Smollet?? He now faces felony charges for "false reporting" with a penalty of up to 3 years imprisonment... Curious to see if his lawyers can work a plea bargain but my sense is: this incident raised far too much outrage to simply dismiss with a plea deal. We shall see...
The guy tried to start a race riot, he should be locked up for a year or two.
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Old 21.02.2019, 23:09
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The guy tried to start a race riot, he should be locked up for a year or two.
Three! And no parole.
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Old 22.02.2019, 00:32
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Three! And no parole.
I continue to be amazed at the lack of due diligence in the American press. Both sides...liberal and conservative seem to write and publish which suits their narrative. Whatever happened to journalistic integrity? It is all about "Clickbait" as my journalist/former college roommate tells me... And she works for a very reputable news outlet in the US. Sad on all levels....

So many wanted to believe Smollet as it suited their narrative. The sad thing is... most of us are left wondering what to believe anymore as the press is frankly, unreliable...
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Old 22.02.2019, 00:50
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I continue to be amazed at the lack of due diligence in the American press. Both sides...liberal and conservative seem to write and publish which suits their narrative. Whatever happened to journalistic integrity? It is all about "Clickbait" as my journalist/former college roommate tells me... And she works for a very reputable news outlet in the US. Sad on all levels....

So many wanted to believe Smollet as it suited their narrative. The sad thing is... most of us are left wondering what to believe anymore as the press is frankly, unreliable...
They reported what the police said
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Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson spoke to CNN affiliate WLS about the reported attack against “Empire” star Jussie Smollett, calling the crime “horrendous”.
What sort of due diligence could the press have performed to identify Smollet was lying? That is a pure fantasy.

The press are now reporting the police information on Smollet again; do you also find this is unreliable?
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Old 22.02.2019, 01:57
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If reids' and marton's ramblings weren't enough, we now have conclusive evidence that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'stageüd hoax attack over salary'
Oh, Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing, all right. Just look at your own uncritical, unquestioning support of Trump. Fortunately you're not yet in the terminal stages of TDS, as Christopher Hasson is.



Oh look, yet another non-brown, non-Muslim, home-grown American terrorist. MAGA.
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:04
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Oh, Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing, all right. Just look at your own uncritical, unquestioning support of Trump. Fortunately you're not yet in the terminal stages of TDS, as Christopher Hasson is.



Oh look, yet another non-brown, non-Muslim, home-grown American terrorist. MAGA.
Poor lamb, another sufferer. Stay strong, help is available!
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:09
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They reported what the police said

What sort of due diligence could the press have performed to identify Smollet was lying? That is a pure fantasy.

The press are now reporting the police information on Smollet again; do you also find this is unreliable?
As well as proving TDS what this story also showed unequivocally is the anti-Trump bias of the mainstream media. Serious media outlets *should* have integrity and credibility to cross check such stories, and to make their own investigations. In this case they just swallowed it hook, line and sinker because they *wanted* to believe it.
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If reids' and marton's ramblings weren't enough, we now have conclusive evidence that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'staged hoax attack over salary'
Goalposts moved, your work is done, time to slink away lad.
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:15
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They reported what the police said

What sort of due diligence could the press have performed to identify Smollet was lying? That is a pure fantasy.

The press are now reporting the police information on Smollet again; do you also find this is unreliable?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you won't get a reply, not one that makes any sense anyway
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:20
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You're safe out on your limb. Marton did get a reply, but it didn't make any sense.
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:22
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Poor lamb, another sufferer. Stay strong, help is available!
For Hasson? I doubt it. And he doesn't look much like a lamb.

But I agree, a lot of people are suffering under Trump.
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:40
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As well as proving TDS what this story also showed unequivocally is the anti-Trump bias of the mainstream media. Serious media outlets *should* have integrity and credibility to cross check such stories, and to make their own investigations. In this case they just swallowed it hook, line and sinker because they *wanted* to believe it.
So the media should not print the content of law enforcement press releases but instead use their internal staff to invent their own stories?
Are you sure?
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:51
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Poor lamb, another sufferer. Stay strong, help is available!
Aren't these people always reported as mentally ill, in media? Not members of any church/race/political party...Why the double standards, all of a sudden.
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Old 22.02.2019, 09:54
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So the media should not print the content of law enforcement press releases but instead use their internal staff to invent their own stories?
Are you sure?
Not invent their own stories, but investigating, assessing and presenting the actual story. You know, that long forgotten activity called journalism?

When someone comes along and says they were jumped at 2am in the freezing Chicago night, by two red cap wearing Trump supporters shouting, "this MAGA country" armed with a noose and bleach... I think there's more than a hint of bullshit about the story.
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Old 22.02.2019, 10:01
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Not invent their own stories, but investigating, assessing and presenting the actual story. You know, that long forgotten activity called journalism?

When someone comes along and says they were jumped at 2am in the freezing Chicago night, by two red cap wearing Trump supporters shouting, "this MAGA country" armed with a noose and bleach... I think there's more than a hint of bullshit about the story.
So you believe private citizens would do a better job of crime investigation than trained law enforcement officers despite their huge collective experience and extensive resources?

That is not promoting journalism but is promoting fake news.

However I am truly impressed by the power of your hindsight.
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Old 22.02.2019, 10:11
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So you believe private citizens would do a better job of crime investigation than trained law enforcement officers despite their huge collective experience and extensive resources?

That is not promoting journalism but is promoting fake news.

However I am truly impressed by the power of your hindsight.
Print this off, frame it and hang it on your wall. Marton's ignorance laid bare.

Some examples of "private citizens" (journalists) doing a better job of crime investigation than trained law enforcement officers:

Daily Telegraph investigation of MPs expenses
The Boston Globe's investigation of sex abuse in the Catholic Church
The Sunday Times investigation into the MMR vaccine
The Daily Mail investigation into the Stephen Lawrence Murderers
The Panama Papers
The Washington Post exposure of Watergate
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Aren't these people always reported as mentally ill, in media? Not members of any church/race/political party...Why the double standards, all of a sudden.
How did you make the sentence "Anyways, has he actually done something aside of shining up his silly collected arsenal?" disappear without "edit" showing up in your post? Did you use your Moderator super powers? Is that fair practice?

Anyway you have highlighted the major conundrum of law enforcement dealing with terrorism; do they wait for a terrorist to kill a lot of people and get accused of failing to identify the risk?
Or do they arrest someone and get the reaction "they did not do anything yet"!
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Daily Telegraph investigation of MPs expenses
The Sunday Times investigation into the MMR vaccine
The Panama Papers
All civil rather than criminal, therefore not a police matter.
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Old 22.02.2019, 10:25
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Print this off, frame it and hang it on your wall. Marton's ignorance laid bare.

Some examples of "private citizens" (journalists) doing a better job of crime investigation than trained law enforcement officers:

Daily Telegraph investigation of MPs expenses
The Boston Globe's investigation of sex abuse in the Catholic Church
The Sunday Times investigation into the MMR vaccine
The Daily Mail investigation into the Stephen Lawrence Murderers
The Panama Papers
The Washington Post exposure of Watergate
Ah, the ground keeper moving the goal posts again!

Apart from "the Stephen Lawrence Murderers" none of these were the subject of a crime investigation by trained law enforcement officers.
None of these were the subject of a law enforcement press release prior to the investigation that was subsequently reversed by the media investigation?

Or are you suggesting the tragic Stephen Lawrence Murder was not a racially motivated attack as described in the law enforcement press release?
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