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Old 22.02.2019, 10:35
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How did you make the sentence "Anyways, has he actually done something aside of shining up his silly collected arsenal?" disappear without "edit" showing up in your post? Did you use your Moderator super powers? Is that fair practice?
Don't get too excited, doesn't change a thing.

Or, are you on a private citizen investigating?

I actually thought everyone can edit within certain time window, without the auto message. Meh. Everyday, something new.

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Anyway you have highlighted the major conundrum of law enforcement dealing with terrorism; do they wait for a terrorist to kill a lot of people and get accused of failing to identify the risk?
Or do they arrest someone and get the reaction "they did not do anything yet"!
What do you suggest in order to not wait, efficiently..Home ransacking of everyone who buys a gun? In the US? Good luck. I perso think it is tough to estimate the risk, correctly. But for you it seems that any Trump supporter carries a deadly risk?
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Old 22.02.2019, 10:54
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Print this off, frame it and hang it on your wall. Marton's ignorance laid bare.

Some examples of "private citizens" (journalists) doing a better job of crime investigation than trained law enforcement officers:

(A whole two examples)
The Sunday Times investigation into the MMR vaccine
(Wow, three more examples)
Oh really? I didn't know that The Sunday Times' journalists had the knowledge, experience, time, resources and exceptional foresight to compile and publish an epidemiological review to refute Wakefield's claims of a link between MMR vaccine and autism just months after he published them -- and five years before The Sunday Times published their "(non-)criminal investigation" "exposing" Wakefield's fraud. That's quality journalism, that is.

But now that the media are reporting Trump's many failings promptly and accurately, according to the sources available, it's all Fake News. How convenient.
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Old 22.02.2019, 10:55
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Don't get too excited, doesn't change a thing.

Or, are you on a private citizen investigating?

I actually thought everyone can edit within certain time window, without the auto message. Meh. Everyday, something new.

What do you suggest in order to not wait, efficiently..Home ransacking of everyone who buys a gun? In the US? Good luck. I perso think it is tough to estimate the risk, correctly. But for you it seems that any Trump supporter carries a deadly risk?
"But for you it seems that any Trump supporter carries a deadly risk?"

Actually I believe that any terrorist suspect arrested by the police and subsequently held in custody carries a deadly risk regardless of their political affiliation.

Thank you for asking for my improvement suggestions but I am not going down that black hole!
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Old 22.02.2019, 11:01
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I actually thought everyone can edit within certain time window, without the auto message. Meh. Everyday, something new.
I thought so, too. As far as I know, that's correct. Hence the term "ninja edit".

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What do you suggest in order to not wait, efficiently..Home ransacking of everyone who buys a gun? In the US? Good luck. I perso think it is tough to estimate the risk, correctly. But for you it seems that any Trump supporter carries a deadly risk?
There's a lot of grey between your black and white extremes. It's fairly obvious to anybody that Hasson, with his white supremacist statements, incriminating internet searches, and over the top stash of firearms, represented a much-higher-than-average risk to society, so prophylactic law enforcement measures were well justified.

Neither marton, nor anybody else on EF, has ever suggested that all Trump supporters represent a deadly risk. More extreme hysteria.
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Old 22.02.2019, 11:44
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I thought so, too. As far as I know, that's correct. Hence the term "ninja edit".


There's a lot of grey between your black and white extremes. It's fairly obvious to anybody that Hasson, with his white supremacist statements, incriminating internet searches, and over the top stash of firearms, represented a much-higher-than-average risk to society, so prophylactic law enforcement measures were well justified.

Neither marton, nor anybody else on EF, has ever suggested that all Trump supporters represent a deadly risk. More extreme hysteria.
Actually I am in principle against sweeping generalisations of groups of people. We are all individuals formed out of multiple life situations and with complex motivations.

I believe Trump is a disgraceful US President but I have no view of his supporters. They got what they voted for!

I did not know about or more likely forgot about the ninja edit
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Old 22.02.2019, 12:24
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I did not know about or more likely forgot about the ninja edit
Yep, you have about a couple of minutes for undetectable second thoughts. Unless someone has already quoted it.
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Actually I am in principle against sweeping generalisations of groups of people. ...
People like you always are!!


This discussions is straining my crazy-ometer, it's only rated up to 'batshit'. The press reported what the official sources say, unless there is reason to believe they are lying, for example if it came from the white house, then i can't see why they would look further. This is looking like an increasingly desperate attempt to validate a specious argment. Feels like the goalposts are now actually off the pitch and encroaching on the badminton court.
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Old 22.02.2019, 13:25
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"But for you it seems that any Trump supporter carries a deadly risk?"

Actually I believe that any terrorist suspect arrested by the police and subsequently held in custody carries a deadly risk regardless of their political affiliation.

Thank you for asking for my improvement suggestions but I am not going down that black hole!
Because it is a black hole that's in the US has been dug out long time ago. For the arrests - there is a big problem in the US with how many people get arrested. Prisons, costs and the whole repair mindset missing. If you add their political polarisation and politicians/media who seem to be trying to criminalize mere differences in opinions...We can have smart suggestions but I doubt that we will figure out something genious that folks there haven't thought of.
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Old 22.02.2019, 13:34
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Actually I am in principle against sweeping generalisations of groups of people. We are all individuals formed out of multiple life situations and with complex motivations.

I believe Trump is a disgraceful US President but I have no view of his supporters. They got what they voted for!

I did not know about or more likely forgot about the ninja edit
Yet you'd quickly call me unfair.
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Old 22.02.2019, 14:19
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Yet you'd quickly call me unfair.
But you are neither a group nor a Trump supporter? Anyway I was wrong

Probably because people quote my posts so quickly I never experienced the ninja edit myself
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Old 22.02.2019, 14:51
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Probably because people quote my posts so quickly I never experienced the ninja edit myself
You can do a quick edit to any post you make, even if someone has already quoted your original post. But if it was quoted before you edited it, your amendment will be obvious to everybody: more a clown edit than a ninja edit.
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Old 22.02.2019, 19:40
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Robert Kraft, long-time friend of President Trump and owner of the New England Patriots, is being charged in a prostitution ring
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Wonder why they mention Trump

Is human trafficking better or worse than taking the knee?

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The New York County district attorney's office has prepared charges against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort in case he receives a presidential pardon
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Trump can only pardon Federal offences not State crimes.
I do not remember a time when the US was so divided and so concentrated on getting their pound of flesh!
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Old 22.02.2019, 21:29
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Wonder why they mention Trump
This is an example of biased journalism, I'm afraid. Whether he hired a prostitute or not has nothing to do with whether he's a friend of Trump. Unless Trump supplied the prostitute or something.
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Old 22.02.2019, 21:47
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This is an example of biased journalism, I'm afraid. Whether he hired a prostitute or not has nothing to do with whether he's a friend of Trump. Unless Trump supplied the prostitute or something.
I read your post as <<Whether he hired a prostitute or not has nothing to do with the weather>>

Well, maybe just like the Brits always come back to the weather, the Americans do to Trump. And us third party people are just as stereotype to read these things into things before they're even there. LOL.
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This is an example of biased journalism, I'm afraid. Whether he hired a prostitute or not has nothing to do with whether he's a friend of Trump. Unless Trump supplied the prostitute or something.
Biased journalism.... This is exactly what I was referring to in my previous post. Innuendo/supposition now relayed by media as fact worthy...Hmmm!

PS...Marton, Reids, baboon et al...Smollet's case had so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset. Any person with a median IQ would deduce that his/Smollet's "facts" just did not add up!
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Biased journalism.... This is exactly what I was referring to in my previous post. Innuendo/supposition now relayed by media as fact worthy...Hmmm!

PS...Marton, Reids, baboon et al...Smollet's case had so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset. Any person with a median IQ would deduce that his/Smollet's "facts" just did not add up!
So we can assume you did not mention these inconsistencies at the time this case came to light so your IQ is not a median IQ?
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So we can assume you did not mention these inconsistencies at the time this case came to light so your IQ is not a median IQ?

Because I did not post my apprehensions/misgivings on this forum... They were not valid? Now who is playing 20/20 hindsight Marton?

I was referring to the press and anyone who believed Smollet's outrageous story... Think you need to go over the facts Marton. Who in the heck waits outside in the freezing temps of Chicago to pull this charade? His claims were outrageous/unbelievable from the outset... And as I quoted, anyone with a reasonable IQ would have rendered his claim suspect - given his details.

I gather you believed him Marton - as that supports your narrative?? Hmmmm....
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Old 22.02.2019, 23:18
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Because I did not post my apprehensions/misgivings on this forum... They were not valid? Now who is playing 20/20 hindsight Marton?

I was referring to the press and anyone who believed Smollet's outrageous story... Think you need to go over the facts Marton. Who in the heck waits outside in the freezing temps of Chicago to pull this charade? His claims were outrageous/unbelievable from the outset... And as I quoted, anyone with a reasonable IQ would have rendered his claim suspect - given his details.

I gather you believed him Marton - as that supports your narrative?? Hmmmm....
OK so assume I am prepared to admit I am below median IQ.

Please tell me what are the "so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset" that I failed to notice.

So far you could only identify one thing "Who in the heck waits outside in the freezing temps of Chicago" which is neither an inconsistency or a red flag.

So your "many" in fact collapses down to one doubtful red flag?
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The IQ of the Chicago police seems sufficient.
Now that's soothing, right?
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OK so assume I am prepared to admit I am below median IQ.

Please tell me what are the "so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset" that I failed to notice.

So far you could only identify one thing "Who in the heck waits outside in the freezing temps of Chicago" which is neither an inconsistency or a red flag.

So your "many" in fact collapses down to one doubtful red flag?
Gee Marton...Read /hearTrevor Noah's thoughts... You cannot accuse him of racial bias ..as he is after all a black man from South Africa; even he condemns the media for bias...

https://uproxx.com/tv/trevor-noah-qu...smollett-case/
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