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The IQ of the Chicago police seems sufficient.
Now that's soothing, right?
Nope! The police report can be reported but is up to journalists to investigate and this "story" was rife with issues from the outset...
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Gee Marton...Read /hearTrevor Noah's thoughts... You cannot accuse him of racial bias ..as he is after all a black man from South Africa; even he condemns the media for bias...

https://uproxx.com/tv/trevor-noah-qu...smollett-case/
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Noah continued and drew chuckles when he asked, “Like, why are two Nigerian guys walking around in Chicago’s freezing weather and then shouting ‘This is MAGA country’?” Further, he added, “That’s a weird thing to shout as a Nigerian person.”
That's some very interesting logic.
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OK so assume I am prepared to admit I am below median IQ.

Please tell me what are the "so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset" that I failed to notice.

So far you could only identify one thing "Who in the heck waits outside in the freezing temps of Chicago" which is neither an inconsistency or a red flag.

So your "many" in fact collapses down to one doubtful red flag?
To quote from the Trevor Noah telecast...

"Ultimately, the host believes that this story illustrates how people are too eager “at jumping at stories that confirm their biases,” rather than stepping back and critically viewing each story on an individual basis".
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Old 22.02.2019, 23:39
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Gee Marton...Read /hearTrevor Noah's thoughts... You cannot accuse him of racial bias ..as he is after all a black man from South Africa; even he condemns the media for bias...

https://uproxx.com/tv/trevor-noah-qu...smollett-case/
So you are unable to support your claim "Smollet's case had so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset", no surprise.

So far you could only offer one thing that anybody waiting outside for a taxi in Chicago is automatically suspect.

You do know many does not "≠" one?

Please educate me and describe the many inconsistencies and red flags?
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So you are unable to support your claim "Smollet's case had so many inconsistencies and red flags from the outset", no surprise.

So far you could only offer one thing that anybody waiting outside for a taxi in Chicago is automatically suspect.

You do know many does not "≠" one?

Please educate me and describe the many inconsistencies and red flags?
Marton...You need to read about the case yourself before posting. It's embarrassing for you!
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Old 22.02.2019, 23:48
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Marton...You need to read about the case yourself before posting. It's embarrassing for you!
So you see all the red flags in hindsight? Please stop making a fool of yourself.
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Old 23.02.2019, 00:09
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So you see all the red flags in hindsight? Please stop making a fool of yourself.
If you lived in the US, you would know that not many people venture out at 2am in freezing Chicago temps wearing Trump hats with A NOOSE and carrying BLEACH targeting a homosexual --- sorry they did not "know" this at time. Oh..I forgot to add, they shouted, "This is MAGA country" Really???

Please...!! Use some common sense here... If possible and read!
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Old 23.02.2019, 00:10
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That's some very interesting logic.
Noah is a comedian but sometimes his analysis is spot-on. The odds of two black guys attacking another black guy while shouting MAGA slogans? In Chicago? Come on.

BBC article that gets into some of the inconsistencies:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47311145

The suspicions started when police could not find any video footage of the alleged attack. Smollett didn't want to give his phone to authorities. His call records show he spoke to one or both so-called attackers before and after the attack.

I have to agree with you, now it's easy for us all to say it was obvious but the knee-jerk reaction these days is to accept what the "victim" says at face value and then act outraged. The story sounded plausible...until it didn't.

Good opinion piece on confirmation bias:
https://theweek.com/articles/824918/...firmation-bias
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Noah is a comedian but sometimes his analysis is spot-on. The odds of two black guys attacking another black guy while shouting MAGA slogans? In Chicago? Come on.

BBC article that gets into some of the inconsistencies:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47311145

The suspicions started when police could not find any video footage of the alleged attack. Smollett didn't want to give his phone to authorities. His call records show he spoke to one or both so-called attackers before and after the attack.

I have to agree with you, now it's easy for us all to say it was obvious but the knee-jerk reaction these days is to accept what the "victim" says at face value and then act outraged. The story sounded plausible...until it didn't.

Good opinion piece on confirmation bias:
https://theweek.com/articles/824918/...firmation-bias
Sorry, it never sounded plausible to me... Just saying!
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Old 23.02.2019, 00:34
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Marton...You need to read about the case yourself before posting. It's embarrassing for you!
OK, I am embarrassed.
Here is the original Chicago police press release, what is not to believe?
Where are the many inconsistencies and red flags we should have seen from the outset?
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Of course, more information was revealed later which the media faithfully reported.
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Old 23.02.2019, 00:58
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Robert Kraft, long-time friend of President Trump and owner of the New England Patriots, is being charged in a prostitution ring
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Wonder why they mention Trump
Speaking to reporters at the White House on Friday afternoon, the president said he was surprised to see Kraft, a longtime friend of his, facing charges by Florida police.

"Surprised to see it. He has denied it," Trump said, calling it a "very sad" situation.

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Now if Trump was a true friend he would have organised one of his porn stars for Kraft
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President Donald Trump expressed optimism on a trade deal with China, after meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He in the Oval Office on Friday afternoon.

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Risk is, of course, Trump will sign a poor deal just to get off the hook.

As a sign of the pressure on Trump due to collapsing agricultural sales to China.
According to the Wall St. Journal twice as many farmers in Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin filed for bankruptcy in 2018 as did during the 2008 recession, statistics from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals show.

Farmer bankruptcies in Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota shot up 96 percent in 2018, according to data from the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals.
In Kansas, Colorado and Oklahoma, bankruptcies surged 59 percent last year.

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OK, I am embarrassed.
Here is the original Chicago police press release, what is not to believe?
Where are the many inconsistencies and red flags we should have seen from the outset?
Attachment 136008

Of course, more information was revealed later which the media faithfully reported.
I believe this is the edited version, the original read. "Chicago Police have today received reports of a racist attack on an individual, clearly it's false because, something about cold and taxis, and anyway it's not up to us to investigate, thats the newspapers job."
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President Donald Trump expressed optimism on a trade deal with China, after meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He in the Oval Office on Friday afternoon.
The live feed was painful to watch. Trump's team have been negotiating diligently to sign a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with China. One of the journalists asked about it, and Trump said he doesn't want an MoU. MoUs are no good. He wants a trade agreement. One of his staffers tried to explain that the MoU IS the agreement, but Trump wasn't having it. Surely such a successful businessman has signed a million MoUs over the years on all his projects??
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Sec. Sonny Perdue@SecretarySonny

BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table. Strategy is working. Show of good faith by the Chinese. Also indications of more good news to come.
Chinese bought 22 million metric tons less of U.S. soybeans this year so just a small step?
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Gee Marton...Read /hearTrevor Noah's thoughts... You cannot accuse him of racial bias ..as he is after all a black man from South Africa
"Trevor Noah is black, so he can't possibly be racist." Can you really be so extraordinarily naive?

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"Trevor Noah is black, so he can't possibly be racist." Can you really be so extraordinarily naive?

And getting back to my point of reference and Noah's...the media and your thoughts there 22 Yards? Why try to deflect?
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And getting back to my point of reference and Noah's...the media and your thoughts there 22 Yards? Why try to deflect?
Your claim was " many inconsistencies and red flags we should have seen from the outset"

Noah spoke about the information that came out later. Sigh!
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Kim Jong-Un is on the way to Vietnam to meet Trump. 4500 km by train
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Kim Jong-Un is on the way to Vietnam to meet Trump. 4500 km by train
Well, if some politians had flight fobias, it would have saved their lives. (RIP Prezident Dubček, assassinated by the Russian occupation 1968).

I feel like I am turning into Wolli.

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