come on guys, don't take the piss about Trump

That's pretty much a word salad of all the anti-vaccine tropes you can serve in one go. He can't even get his facts right on ethylmercury toxicity and the use of Thiomersal.

And not about Phos either, it would seem.

This makes no sense as lead emissions got cut immensely by the introduction of unleaded fuel; important to note that the combustion process produced biologically available lead compounds. The Belastung by lead dropped significantly in the ensuing years, for instance and according to Wiki, in the US lead amount in human blood dropped by 78% from 1978 til 1991.

Lead usage in Switzerland, copyright GAIA magazine:

Even as he might to make it, this thread isn't about Phos; it is about Trump's ability to be a good president. We're just raising issues that dispute this, I can't help it if Phos keeps grabbing the wrong end of the stick and flogging a dead horse with it.

I never considered "sense" to be a value that comes out of progressive environmentalist anyway. I thought it was all about hugging trees and mother earth, AFAIC.

And stopping us from making ourselves extinct, and all that.

In the meantime, Trump is president in 9 days. Anyone sick yet?

Fellas, I'm afraid there is 4 more years of it to come.

Right, wimpy bleeding-heart stuff like concern that global warming will melt the polar ice caps and submerge millions of square kilometres of inhabited land. Oh, those libtard environMENTALists, what a joke!

But fortunately Trump is an expert at building (sea)walls, so America can be Made Great Again while the rest of the word sinks.

You build someone up when you know you have enough dirt to take them down. That's the makings of a useful idiot.

Apperently, there's a 'sex dossier' on Trump that tv commentators are hoping is fake news because they don't have the stomach for it

He's 70 and refused to release his medical records (or at least got some quack to talk him up bigly). Let's say; the jury is out...

I do not think he does. I do agree with you this thread isn't about him. So why do you and others smarmy peeps keep picking on him and his personality and the discrediting reasons you guys point out that he must have, surely, for posting? I do not see much of this sily sore losing and grudge coming from the other side, just glee that his candidate won. It would be amusing, if it wasn't such a repetitive drag. I am not even pro Trump but get tired of people lamely pickin on messengers. Who cares about Trump's vax attitudes? He did that only to stir exactly these naggy fights...why are people gobbling it up?

Let's see why Trump has or doesn't have a shot. And remind ourselves, he is taking the shot no matter what we selfimportantly post here.

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Well, we know they're having trouble. May take a while.

U2 and Bono just cancelled the release of their album, realising all that crooning is now irrelevant.

New reality folks. The old story doesn't work anymore. Catch up please!

Swarmy? Seriously? It's unclear if you mean EFers or Others.

"lamely pickin on messengers" But Trump does not post here

Smarmy would be a better choice of words. Alright, not you included.

I hope he will cut down on tweeting.
His tweets are starting to be treated like royal wishes and with his command of English there could be scope for misinterpretation.

Anybody remember Henry II - "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Exactly. So why do so many people act as if he was?

Phos and others who keep posting despite of members constantly picking up apart their personalities, obviously have thick skin. Thankfully. I really appreciate the plurality of opinions here on EF, let's keep it that way. And I do not share most of the povs that are vented here. Wish I did, would love to simply effortlessly hop on sb else's bandvagon n say "hell yeah!".

EF is pretty odd. I know people will say internet is internet, same ol'. I don't think so. I miss the witicisms when I get busy irl, the weird stoic one liners, despite the aparent ocassional outrage that people point out, it is actually pretty zen and mostly not a mob mentality. I think we all care. I think we all preserve the peculiar edginess and quality level. Jabs kinda bring it down.

What are "Effers" and "Others"? Is there a Darkside?

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"L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi

“The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein

NIXON - "No way can you pull off a more scandal-ridden Presidency than I did"

TRUMP- "Hold my beer"

NIXON - "Hang on. This isn't beer"

I suppose it is somewhat tough and challenging when one's world view is challenged. I don't take any of this personally, as none of the slandering would even stick to my person. None of it reflects on me, it reflects on them. I'm not even the topic at hand. It appears to me as a desperate last ditch effort to lash out at somebody, anybody. I just see it as an intellectual and emotional maturity issue. Well, there is a real world out there, and one has to grow up some time.

And I admit, I find it amusing.