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I never saw this coming, not after Donny secured peace in our time with one of the bigliest deals ever, that Obama could never even think of doing...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ould-dismantle

So Much Winning It Hurts.

That's because you don't understand the process. You are like Chief Inspector Dreyfus who doesn't understand the genius Clouseau.
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Time will tell. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt, then. Which part of my post did you find objectionable, and why?
All of it.

I wonder if you have ever noticed that: many in this thread reflexively complain about Trump being simplistic, petty, reductive in his thinking and then proceed to make simplistic, petty, reductive posts about Trump. Or even worse, copy-paste simplistic, petty, reductive posts made by others on twitter.
This is an affliction all 'Trump threads' are suffering from. There is almost no debate about policies or ideas, just vilification & comments on his (indefensible) personality.
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All of it.

I wonder if you have ever noticed that: many in this thread reflexively complain about Trump being simplistic, petty, reductive in his thinking and then proceed to make simplistic, petty, reductive posts about Trump. Or even worse, copy-paste simplistic, petty, reductive posts made by others on twitter.
This is an affliction all 'Trump threads' are suffering from. There is almost no debate about policies or ideas, just vilification & comments on his (indefensible) personality.
My post was nothing to do with his personality. It was to do with his claim that NK were no longer a nuclear threat. This is clearly a lie.

He also claimed they had made huge progress at the summit. A couple of days later, NK are resuming their Nuclear Weapon infrastructure project. Another lie.

Hope this helps. Am happy to explain any other basic concepts you might be (deliberately) overlooking.
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All of it.

I wonder if you have ever noticed that: many in this thread reflexively complain about Trump being simplistic, petty, reductive in his thinking and then proceed to make simplistic, petty, reductive posts about Trump. Or even worse, copy-paste simplistic, petty, reductive posts made by others on twitter.
This is an affliction all 'Trump threads' are suffering from. There is almost no debate about policies or ideas, just vilification & comments on his (indefensible) personality.
There is a hefty wodge of tweets on this thread by the man himself and/or members of his administration and family.

The guy doesn't need any help being "simplistic, petty and reductive in his thinking". Where do you suggest we find the antithesis of this type of tweet, if this is all too simple and low brow for you?
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And oh look, the trade deficit is up.

"The US trade gap with the rest of the world jumped to a 10-year high of $621bn (£472.5bn) last year, dealing a blow to President Donald Trump's deficit reduction plan.

The trade deficit is the difference between how much goods and services the US imports from other countries and how much it exports.

Reducing the gap is a key plank of Mr Trump's policies.

But in 2018, the US exported fewer goods compared with how much it bought."

https://www.bbc.com/news

Now there's a surprise.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It is redundant and uninteresting to persist in a mockery & parroting of a mass media (see post above). There are plenty of comedians doing much better job of it (John Oliver).

Here is a thought: Trump is a seminal American president.
Unlike his predecessors, going back almost half a century, he has changed the public & media narrative and influenced politics in US and abroad to the great extent.
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Here is a thought: Trump is a seminal American president.
Unlike his predecessors, going back almost half a century, he has changed the public & media narrative and influenced politics in US and abroad to the great extent.
Changed yes. But very certainly not for the better.
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Changed yes. But very certainly not for the better.
Where do you see him making the most negative impact?
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Old 06.03.2019, 17:18
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Where do you see him making the most negative impact?

You're not serious about this, right?
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Here is a thought: Trump is a seminal American president.
Unlike his predecessors, going back almost half a century, he has changed the public & media narrative and influenced politics in US and abroad to the great extent.
It's funny. I see this type of comment a lot but so far nobody has been able to actually list anything to back it up.

"Changing the public and media narrative and influencing politics" sounds such a wishy-washy cop-out it hurts.
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It is redundant and uninteresting to persist in a mockery & parroting of a mass media (see post above). There are plenty of comedians doing much better job of it (John Oliver).
Nobody is forcing you to read this thread. I suggest you'll have a happier, more fulfilled life is you watch John Oliver instead of listening to me prattle on. The Ignore button is but a few pixels away.
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Old 06.03.2019, 17:23
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I was not about to write an essay on cultural and political influence of Trump. I'll let English Lit. majors earn their bread.
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Nobody is forcing you to read this thread. I suggest you'll have a happier, more fulfilled life is you watch John Oliver instead of listening to me prattle on. The Ignore button is but a few pixels away.
All right I'll leave you to it.
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Here is a thought: Trump is a seminal American president.
This I can agree with. I think he's even beating Bill Clinton as the president who's had the most issues with semen.
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It's funny. I see this type of comment a lot but so far nobody has been able to actually list anything to back it up.

"Changing the public and media narrative and influencing politics" sounds such a wishy-washy cop-out it hurts.
But he did, in a negative way of course. Look around at the way people communicate with each other now that all the idiots and their always-pregnant-mamas feel empowered. In all fairness, I can't accuse Trump for starting this process but he definitely perfected it. Eveeerything goes now. Politics is a circus. (it always was probably, but what we have seen lately...)
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I think modern times politics were never a noble pursuit. I do feel that it is 'terrible' that we are now deprived of opportunity to lionize our thieving, imbecilic leaders. After all it was force-fed to us by our parents , teachers, bosses and to large extent mass media.
Where do we go from here?

As far as 'all the idiots" are concerned , that is not Trump's fault. Internet made it possible for village idiots to find each other and create comfy echo-chambers.
It was inevitable.
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But he did, in a negative way of course. Look around at the way people communicate with each other now that all the idiots and their always-pregnant-mamas feel empowered. In all fairness, I can't accuse Trump for starting this process but he definitely perfected it. Eveeerything goes now. Politics is a circus. (it always was probably, but what we have seen lately...)
I think once he's gone it will revert to how it always was. It's a temporary shake up and maybe his legacy will simply+be "at least it's never as bad as when Trump was in the White House" accompanied by a snort of derision but I think that's as far as it will go. Bluster and bullshit will only carry him so far in the annals of history. Everything he's attempted thus far has simply fallen through or failed.

A big indifferent stain on history. Meh.
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What about this:
Stopped $230 million in rebuilding payments to Syria.
Brought back soldiers’ remains from the Korean War.
Secured release of American prisoners from North Korea.
Negotiated peace talks between North and South Korea.
Signed an order calling for work requirements for welfare.
Nominated the first woman to lead the CIA.
Proposed largest civil service change in 40 years - “Hire the best and fire the worst.”
Signed bipartisan bill to combat synthetic opioids.
Decreased federal bureaucracy by 16,000 positions and slashed government regulations.
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Or this:
Declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel and moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.
Visited Jerusalem’s Western Wall and prayed, a first for any sitting U.S. president.
Signed the Taylor Force Act prohibiting aid to the Palestinian Authority if it funds terrorism.
Cut $225 million from the Palestinian Authority.
Delivered the first F-35 stealth jets to Israel.
Withdrew from The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) citing “anti-Israel bias.”
Cut $300 million in aid to Pakistan.
Cut all U.S. funding for UNRWA, the U.N. agency serving Palestinian refugees-it’s a politicized and pro-Palestinian organization, which perpetuates the refugee issue.
Withdrew from the anti-Israel U.N. Human Rights Council
Appointed pro-Israel Nikki Haley to serve as U.S. Ambassador at the United Nations, who has assumed a more assertive role and negotiated $285 million cut in U.N. budget.
Withdrew America from the Iran deal, imposed tough sanctions and pledged to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.
Closed the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) office in Washington, D.C.
Approved a 10-year military aid package for Israel, providing $3.8 billion annually to secure Israel’s defense.
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Or this:
Decreased black and Hispanic unemployment to a record low.
Decreased jobless claims at the lowest level since 1969.
Black business ownership jumped nearly 400 percent.
Increased consumer confidence to the highest level in 18 years.
Decreased youth unemployment to 52-year low.
Increased median income to highest in history.
Increased business investments 39 percent.
Decreased food stamp use by 500,000 in one month.
Increased homebuilding permits to the highest since 2007.
Increased oil production to 10 million barrels a day for the first time since 1970, making US largest oil importer in the World.
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