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Decreased black and Hispanic unemployment to a record low.
Decreased jobless claims at the lowest level since 1969.
Black business ownership jumped nearly 400 percent.
Increased consumer confidence to the highest level in 18 years.
Decreased youth unemployment to 52-year low.
Increased median income to highest in history.
Increased business investments 39 percent.
Decreased food stamp use by 500,000 in one month.
Increased homebuilding permits to the highest since 2007.
Increased oil production to 10 million barrels a day for the first time since 1970, making US largest oil importer in the World.
First time snow in 70 years in Los Angeles. Trump's measures against climate change have proved to be successful that the next ice age is near.
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I concede, it is a brilliant strategy.
He ran against both parties establishment, practically unison condemnation of MSM around the Globe and he won. He must be doing something right. Oh, I know. He is using MSM tactics against them and it sticks.

P.S. As someone already opined, perhaps it will all reset to pre-Trump status quo. And we all resume sleepwalking through life reading news papers and online blogs while nodding our heads. But I hope not.
No, his brilliant strategy was convincing basically normal & sane people that he would deliver on his wilder promises!
A border wall paid for by Mexico
Deporting all illegal immigrants
Label China as currency manipulator
Prosecuting Hillary Clinton
Rebuilding infrastructure
Eliminate the nation’s debt (now increased to $22T)
Remove trade deficit (now @ a 10-year high of $621bn )
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Of courze all those were boastfull campaign claims. I would be happy with just a wall, no matter who pays for it. End of anchor baby policy. Removal welfare recipients, stopping illegal crossings. Raising minimum salary requirement for H1b visas. Renegotiating outdated agreements etc. etc. No president before Trump attempted, let alone talked about these issues. He is working against overwhelming odds, facing political sabotage from the leftist 'progressive' camp. But at least he had audacity to call things for what they are. That is why Americans elected him. Even if he fails at his agenda, the cAt is out of the bag. Old guard and msm cannot do business as usual any longer. Trump had closed that door for them.

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Of courze all those were boastfull campaign claims. I would be happy with just a wall, no matter who pays for it. End of anchor baby policy. Removal welfare recipients, stopping illegal crossings. Raising minimum salary requirement for H1b visas. Renegotiating outdated agreements etc. etc. No president before Trump attempted, let alone talked about these issues. He is working against overwhelming odds, facing political sabotage from the leftist 'progressive' camp. But at least he had the odassity to call things for what they are. That is why Americans elected him. Even if he fails at his agenda, the cAt is out of the bag. Old guard and msm cannot do business as usual any longer. Trump had closed that door for them.
Think you mean audacity ...perhaps? I am not a Trump fan but I do agree that many elected officials overlooked middle America and "the common man" and their needs and Trump capitalized on this. Not because he "cared" about their plight but because he could win. And for me, I think Trump only cares about himself and WINNING!

That said, change is needed in the US so perhaps you are correct that Trump affected change. No one will ever trust the media again to the extent they did before - that is for sure!
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Of courze all those were boastfull campaign claims. I would be happy with just a wall, no matter who pays for it. End of anchor baby policy. Removal welfare recipients, stopping illegal crossings. Raising minimum salary requirement for H1b visas. Renegotiating outdated agreements etc. etc. No president before Trump attempted, let alone talked about these issues. He is working against overwhelming odds, facing political sabotage from the leftist 'progressive' camp. But at least he had odassity to call things for what they are. That is why Americans elected him. Even if he fails at his agenda, the cAt is out of the bag. Old guard and msm cannot do business as usual any longer. Trump had closed that door for them.
Thank the Lord for (sic) odassity

"Old guard and msm cannot do business as usual any longer. Trump had closed that door for them." Actually they still do and very successfully!

CNN Was Most Watched in Cable News During Michael Cohen’s Testimony in Key Demos
CNN grew the most of all the cable news networks in prime time vs. last year, increasing +12% in M-F prime time in total viewers.

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Thank the Lord for (sic) odassity

"Old guard and msm cannot do business as usual any longer. Trump had closed that door for them." Actually they still do and very successfully!

CNN Was Most Watched in Cable News During Michael Cohen’s Testimony in Key Demos
CNN grew the most of all the cable news networks in prime time vs. last year, increasing +12% in M-F prime time in total viewers.

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Think you mean audacity ...perhaps? I am not a Trump fan but I do agree that many elected officials overlooked middle America and "the common man" and their needs and Trump capitalized on this. Not because he "cared" about their plight but because he could win. And for me, I think Trump only cares about himself and WINNING!

That said, change is needed in the US so perhaps you are correct that Trump affected change. No one will ever trust the media again to the extent they did before - that is for sure!
I think it is a mistake to think that Trump voters are only angry white working-class people. All segments of society felt the injustice of US economic and labor policies in the last 30+ years. That is why wages are stagnant, real unemployment is high and people are scared for their future and angry that their gov. does not represent their interests and instead floods country with underpaid 3rd Worlders who undermine living standards and create gray labor market. Trump is not going to change the election system (he is not even talking about it), but at least he voiced the concerns of working Americans, on many aspects of their lives. This has not been done by any president in my lifetime. It was unexpected surprise that after promising all that change Trump actually attempted to fulfill some of the promises.
Idiot, what an idiot. Why could not he be graceful and dignified like 8 useless men before him?

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Decreased black and Hispanic unemployment to a record low.
Decreased jobless claims at the lowest level since 1969.
Decreased youth unemployment to 52-year low.
Increased median income to highest in history..................
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........... That is why wages are stagnant,
real unemployment is high ...................
Which of your contradictory versions do you want to debate here?
The one with high income and low unemployment?
Or the one with stagnant wages and high unemployment?
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As every kid knows apologies are important.
I am still waiting for US media apology for perpetuating Iraq War narrative created by CIA and Bush state dept. I will not hold my breath though waiting for it.
But, but when it finally comes; that will be a m-f of apology and will provide a closure for all those who died or suffered needlessly.
You do know the media didn't start the Iraq war don't you?

As comforting as it is in your echo chamber to think the evil MSM is spreading lies about your boy, it only takes a read of his tweets or a watch of his speeches to realise this is an arsehole. Anyway wtf, I'll offer you the normal chance that I suspect I've offered you before, lets have one example of fake news, one made up story like pizzagate, not a misreporting that was corrected, something deliberately false.

Cue tumbleweed or whataboutery.
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No, his brilliant strategy was convincing basically normal & sane people that he would deliver on his wilder promises!
A border wall paid for by Mexico
Deporting all illegal immigrants
Label China as currency manipulator
Prosecuting Hillary Clinton
Rebuilding infrastructure
Eliminate the nation’s debt (now increased to $22T)
Remove trade deficit (now @ a 10-year high of $621bn )
Correction to US trade deficit number, the US Commerce Department said today (Wednesday) that — despite more than two years of President Trump's “America First” policies — the United States last year posted a $891.2 billion merchandise trade deficit, the largest in the nation's 243-year history.
The trade deficit with China hit a record $419 billion, despite a series of tariffs the administration imposed on Chinese goods to decrease reliance on imports.

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If Trump was as good at delivering as he is at rhetoric I would have high hopes for the US, but basically he is just another failing President.
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Which of your contradictory versions do you want to debate here?
The one with high income and low unemployment?
Or the one with stagnant wages and high unemployment?
True it is a contradiction. I should have specified that wages were stagnant for the past 10 to 15 years prior to Trump. May be the wages are rising now for the first time in a long, long time.
Trump is a disappointment relevant to his promises and unrealistic hopes for change that people projected onto him. Trump is a better president than the last 3 morons that preceded him.
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You do know the media didn't start the Iraq war don't you?

As comforting as it is in your echo chamber to think the evil MSM is spreading lies about your boy, it only takes a read of his tweets or a watch of his speeches to realise this is an arsehole. Anyway wtf, I'll offer you the normal chance that I suspect I've offered you before, lets have one example of fake news, one made up story like pizzagate, not a misreporting that was corrected, something deliberately false.

Cue tumbleweed or whataboutery.
Russian Collusion. Moscow tapes. Campaign finance violations. Trump called all Mexicans rapists, Trump insulted Gold Star family of the fallen soldier. Trump rapes women, etc etc etc. The lies about him are a daily occurrence. Hardly anyone except true believers and people affected with TDS follow that tripe.

As far as your statement about media not starting an Iraq War. I have no idea what prompted this pearl of whizdom.

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Fancy coming up with a significantly large lie out of the BBC (I'm not a CNN watcher) that they haven't owned up to and apologised for?

How many times has Trump apologised for his lies?

Oh and you believe the President of the US has no clout of legitimacy? They used to have, at least to a reasonable degree before Trump. And if Trump hasn't, that's his own doing.
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As every kid knows apologies are important.
I am still waiting for US media apology for perpetuating Iraq War narrative created by CIA and Bush state dept. I will not hold my breath though waiting for it.
But, but when it finally comes; that will be a m-f of apology and will provide a closure for all those who died or suffered needlessly.
I'll take that as a "no", then.
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I'll take that as a "no", then.
I do not read or listen to BBC. So I am not well versed in their lies and consequent apologies.
I was using American media example to demonstrate the usefulness of such apologies from msm.
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Russian Collusion. Moscow tapes. Campaign finance violations. Trump called all Mexicans rapists, Trump insulted Gold Star family of the fallen soldier. Trump rapes women, etc etc etc. The lies about him are a daily occurrence. Hardly anyone except true believers and people affected with TDS follow that tripe.

As far as your statement about media not starting an Iraq War. I have no idea what prompted this pearl of whizdom.
Russian Collusion - true story, unless you think Mueller doesn't exist, he exists and he is investigating Russian collusion.

Moscow tapes - true story, mentioned in the Steele Dossier, unless you think the Steele dossier was made up by the MSM.

Trump calls Mexicans Rapists - true story, the video is on youtube, unless you think it's a deep fake video.

Trump insults a Gold star family - true story, video again on youtube.

You had your chance, you scored zero.
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I do not read or listen to BBC. So I am not well versed in their lies and consequent apologies.
I was using American media example to demonstrate the usefulness of such apologies from msm.
You claimed the BBC lied but you do not read or listen to BBC. Certain lack of credibility there!

So how did you reach your conclusion the BBC had lied and how did you validate your view before posting?
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Russian Collusion - true story, unless you think Mueller doesn't exist, he exists and he is investigating Russian collusion.

Moscow tapes - true story, mentioned in the Steele Dossier, unless you think the Steele dossier was made up by the MSM.

Trump calls Mexicans Rapists - true story, the video is on youtube, unless you think it's a deep fake video.

Trump insults a Gold star family - true story, video again on youtube.

You had your chance, you scored zero.
I don't suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome. You seem to be in dire need of an antidote.
All these stories are so fake that even American msm stop drugging them out. They are busy coming up with new ones while you still mesmerized by old lies. I am not admonishing you ,don't get me wrong. You are a victim.
You are a perfect example of why lies and fake stories are still propagated, because they are so effective.
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You claimed the BBC lied but you do not read or listen to BBC. Certain lack of credibility there!

So how did you reach your conclusion the BBC had lied and how did you validate your view before posting?
Very simply, I made a safe assumption that virtue signalers with liberal arts degrees would spew exactly the same globalist, multi-culti tripe as in US. We hate Trump narrative has little variation around the world. Need more proof look at UK and what they have made of it.
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That said, change is needed in the US so perhaps you are correct that Trump affected change.
Think you mean effected... perhaps?
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Think you mean effected... perhaps?
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Very simply, I made a safe assumption that virtue signalers with liberal arts degrees would spew exactly the same globalist, multi-culti tripe as in US. We hate Trump narrative has little variation around the world. Need more proof look at UK and what they have made of it.
OK fair enough, so you admit you were just trolling and spreading lies with no factual basis.
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I don't suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome. You seem to be in dire need of an antidote.
All these stories are so fake that even American msm stop drugging them out. They are busy coming up with new ones while you still mesmerized by old lies. I am not admonishing you ,don't get me wrong. You are a victim.
You are a perfect example of why lies and fake stories are still propagated, because they are so effective.
I can't find anything about Trump Derangement Syndrome in the literature, it is a fake syndrome. Not fake however is the Dunning-Kruger effect, which is what you exhibit, this makes you not worth debating, good day sir, to my block list you go.
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