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07.03.2019, 11:22
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Facts cannot be disputed. That's why they are facts. You have posted unsubstantiated opinions (many of which have been debunked earlier in this very thread). | | | | | You are playing semantics game. Perception IS reality, examples of which this thread is full of.
Perhaps that is why it is pointless to discuss events or personalities of other people. It is always more interesting to discuss the ideas.
Trump administration has pretty clear ideas where they think US has to go. They made several attempts to take it in that direction domestically and internationally. I welcome most of them (save for crazy religiosity stuff). A lot of people in EU seem to be fed up with their virtue signaling parliaments that no longer represent voter's interests. Trump-effect is working and it will hopefully re-balance public discourse and policies, not to mention will hold msm to much higher scrutiny.
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07.03.2019, 11:25
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | You are playing semantics game. Perception IS reality, examples of which this thread is full of.
Perhaps that is why it is pointless to discuss events or personalities of other people. It is always more interesting to discuss the ideas.
Trump administration has pretty clear ideas where they think US has to go. They made several attempts to take it in that direction domestically and internationally. I welcome most of them (save for crazy religiosity stuff). A lot of people in EU seem to be fed up with their virtue signaling parliaments that no longer represent voter's interests. Trump-effect is working and it will hopefully re-balance public discourse and policies, not to mention will hold msm to much higher scrutiny. | | | | | Oh well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and you blew it. Congratz on becoming my first ignoree in 12 years of being on the forum.
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07.03.2019, 11:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Oh well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and you blew it. Congratz on becoming my first ignoree in 12 years of being on the forum. | | | | | Enjoy your safe-space.
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07.03.2019, 11:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
"Kettle! You black son of a b!+$#." Said the pot. The complaint, which named both Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, alleges that Chakrabarti violated federal election law after setting up a political action committee called the Brand New Congress PAC in order to assist other new members of Congress, then transferring some $885,000 from the PAC to private companies he controlled. In an interview with The Daily Caller, the report says, an unnamed former FEC commissioner suggested both Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti could face not only fines but even jail time. https://www.inquisitr.com/5326232/to...sitr+-+News%29
I believe a republican was convicted of this very thing in 2015. He served two years in jail.
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07.03.2019, 11:44
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
These amateurs should first go to Clinton's school of political graft before they attempt any of these shenanigans.
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07.03.2019, 13:07
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "Kettle! You black son of a b!+$#." Said the pot. The complaint, which named both Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, alleges that Chakrabarti violated federal election law after setting up a political action committee called the Brand New Congress PAC in order to assist other new members of Congress, then transferring some $885,000 from the PAC to private companies he controlled. In an interview with The Daily Caller, the report says, an unnamed former FEC commissioner suggested both Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti could face not only fines but even jail time. https://www.inquisitr.com/5326232/to...sitr+-+News%29
I believe a republican was convicted of this very thing in 2015. He served two years in jail. | | | | | Had it been a republican this time we'd already be hearing the screams of witchhunt, fake news, never happened etc, lets see if the dems react like that or with 'lets see what the facts are'
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07.03.2019, 13:46
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Had it been a republican this time we'd already be hearing the screams of witchhunt, fake news, never happened etc, lets see if the dems react like that or with 'lets see what the facts are' | | | | | Super post! I agree, democrats have been a party of law and order and Republicans have outed themselves with all their baseless rehearsed hysterical outrage.
Why cannot we have one-party system in US? We would call it:"Party of good people".
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07.03.2019, 13:47
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | "Kettle! You black son of a b!+$#." Said the pot. The complaint, which named both Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, alleges that Chakrabarti violated federal election law after setting up a political action committee called the Brand New Congress PAC in order to assist other new members of Congress, then transferring some $885,000 from the PAC to private companies he controlled. In an interview with The Daily Caller, the report says, an unnamed former FEC commissioner suggested both Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti could face not only fines but even jail time. https://www.inquisitr.com/5326232/to...sitr+-+News%29
I believe a republican was convicted of this very thing in 2015. He served two years in jail. | | | | | So far it is just a complaint from a private company. Ocasio-Cortez was just one of many politicians to benefit from the Brand New Congress PAC so it will be hard to blame her for any criminal activity.
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07.03.2019, 13:48
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Super post! I agree, democrats have been a party of law and order and Republicans have outed themselves with all their baseless rehearsed hysterical outrage.
Why cannot we have one-party system in US? We would call it:"Party of good people". | | | | | No problem, Trump and Putin are progressing well in this direction.
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07.03.2019, 15:41
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | No problem, Trump and Putin are progressing well in this direction. | | | | | Agree. Trump is a dictator and the most corrupt person that ever lived! And then his hair.....
I am contributing so well to this discussion.
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07.03.2019, 16:34
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | So far it is just a complaint from a private company. Ocasio-Cortez was just one of many politicians to benefit from the Brand New Congress PAC so it will be hard to blame her for any criminal activity. | | | | | Any complaint filed with the FEC must be investigated. Now, I would like to wait and see what the facts are before passing any judgement. But, the way AOC runs from the camera tells us she does have something to hide. Innocent people dont behave like that. Body language tells us the truth everytime. I'm still waiting to see if she actually lives where she says she does, rumors (from her "neighbors") say she's carpetbagging. Also illegal. But lets wait and see. I am amazed at the level of stupidity being elected on both sides.
Is there a reset button anywhere? Can we start from scratch again? Middle of the road party?? Anyone? Help.
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07.03.2019, 17:15
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | These amateurs should first go to Clinton's school of political graft before they attempt any of these shenanigans. | | | | | Well they would be nuts to ask Trump for advice; most of his clique are already in jail or waiting for sentencing.
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07.03.2019, 17:17
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Oh well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and you blew it. Congratz on becoming my first ignoree in 12 years of being on the forum. | | | | | My list is getting longer and longer. Congrats on starting your own only after 12 years... | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
07.03.2019, 17:25
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | My list is getting longer and longer. Congrats on starting your own only after 12 years... | | | | | I have dozens on my virtual list, but all to no avail: mods can't ignore anyone (only fair, I guess, as you can't ignore us  ), and I became a mod before anyone pissed me off enough to become ignorable.
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07.03.2019, 17:27
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07.03.2019, 17:31
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Well they would be nuts to ask Trump for advice; most of his clique are already in jail or waiting for sentencing. | | | | | You are not helping Muller's Russian Collusion case by suggesting that Trump is NOT a criminal mastermind.
Which side are you on?
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07.03.2019, 17:53
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | You are not helping Muller's Russian Collusion case by suggesting that Trump is NOT a criminal mastermind.
Which side are you on? | | | | | A bit off topic but felt like I had to point this out - many people don't think Trump is a "criminal mastermind". He's unable to act like a president and it's just unbelievable how he still gets to be defended against all evidence. If someone would say - look, I'm a republican and would have never voted a democrat, so we got Trump...we have what we have but I won't jump into his critics bandwagon...then it would be understandable. So which side are you on? Before having more people ignore you. (not that this crap is important in the grand scheme of things)
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07.03.2019, 18:11
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | You are not helping Muller's Russian Collusion case by suggesting that Trump is NOT a criminal mastermind.
Which side are you on? | | | | | Nobody here ever suggested he is a mastermind on any topic?
In fact, that is the strongest reason for not believing in such collusion. Most likely it is a sort of a puppet master thing.
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07.03.2019, 18:22
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Nobody here ever suggested he is a mastermind on any topic?
In fact, that is the strongest reason for not believing in such collusion. Most likely it is a sort of a puppet master thing. | | | | | So you think Putin is a criminal mastermind?
Putin is just a criminal, telegraphing his intentions to anyone who would listen.
P.S. There are no conspiracies, masterminds or collusions there is happenstance and then there is stupidity. And that is all.
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07.03.2019, 18:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | A bit off topic but felt like I had to point this out - many people don't think Trump is a "criminal mastermind". He's unable to act like a president and it's just unbelievable how he still gets to be defended against all evidence. If someone would say - look, I'm a republican and would have never voted a democrat, so we got Trump...we have what we have but I won't jump into his critics bandwagon...then it would be understandable. So which side are you on? Before having more people ignore you. (not that this crap is important in the grand scheme of things) | | | | | I am not registered with any party and never vote along party lines. Actually I almost never vote. I am on the side of my self-interest and fairness which often align.
I don't give a flying squirrel's ass if he is not presidential or not a good person or have terrible character flaws. He ain't my daddy or role model. I don't buy into this 'symbols of state' nonsense. He is a Teddy Roosevelt of our times if you want historic analogy. I support his views on immigration, alliances & foreign policy. He was not successful in fulfilling things I would've liked him to accomplish, but he is more useful by just being there than the last 3 morons.
If he get's us a wall.
Immigration reform.
H1b reform.
Better deal with China.
And gets us out of ME, he would be the greatest president of my time.
Yes, that is how low the bar has been sat by all these presidential looking scumbags that preceded him.
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