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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Meet the new head of Apple—the serendipitously named Tim Apple.

(Oh, and human trafficking, which has been going on for a million years*, was virtually unknown until Trump discovered it and enlightened the world.)



(*An impressive accomplishment, given that Homo sapiens has only been around for 800,000 years, at most; but maybe our evolutionary ancestors engaged in proto-human trafficking, who knows...)
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Meet the new head of Apple—the serendipitously named Tim Apple.
Quite insulting for Steve Jobs
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Quite insulting for Steve Jobs
Thats the guy who founded the employment agency?
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BBC is simply a verbose corner of an American echo chamber. Every misinformation or outright lie that comes out of USA media is reprinted in UK and EU almost immediately with no verification. Lazy journalism, if one can call it that.
Oh no it isn't... HTH.
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Meet the new head of Apple—the serendipitously named Tim Apple.

(Oh, and human trafficking, which has been going on for a million years*, was virtually unknown until Trump discovered it and enlightened the world.)



(*An impressive accomplishment, given that Homo sapiens has only been around for 800,000 years, at most; but maybe our evolutionary ancestors engaged in proto-human trafficking, who knows...)
Wow, trying to normalize human traffickers, pedophiles, child sex slaves etc. What a class act, let me guess, a democrat right?
One of the few things I agree with Trump is how many high level and elite sex rings he has busted up and arrested. In this regard he has accompmished more in two years than the last eight under Obama according to FBI stats. But your response matches that of the dems during the SOTU, complete garbage. And thats an insult to garbage. Where is the #realnews on this issue? They cant bite the hands that feeds them now can they?
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Wow, trying to normalize human traffickers, pedophiles, child sex slaves etc. What a class act, let me guess, a democrat right?
One of the few things I agree with Trump is how many high level and elite sex rings he has busted up and arrested. In this regard he has accompmished more in two years than the last eight under Obama according to FBI stats. But your response matches that of the dems during the SOTU, complete garbage. And thats an insult to garbage. Where is the #realnews on this issue? They cant bite the hands that feeds them now can they?
What FBI stats?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigations. Jesus Christ
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In an interview on CBS News' Face the Nation, President Donald Trump claimed that human traffickers are invading the United States and suggested his border wall could stop it. Trump's vivid descriptions of human trafficking along the U.S.-Mexico border have, more and more, become a regular part of his argument for a border wall. But human trafficking statistics poke holes in Trump's comments on the issue.


"This really is an invasion of our country by human traffickers," Trump told Face the Nation host Margaret Brennan in an interview set to air Sunday ahead of the Super Bowl. The president's remarks came as he discussed why he believed border security was a national emergency and why he believed his border wall was worth risking a second government shutdown. "These are people that are horrible people bringing in women mostly, but bringing in women and children into our country. Human trafficking."

But experts have said that Trump's comments on human trafficking aren't exactly in line with current statistics. Founder and president of the Washington, D.C.-based Human Trafficking Legal Center Martina Vandenberg told CNN that the majority of human trafficking victims in the United States — roughly two thirds — are actually U.S. citizens. What's more, Vandenberg said that the majority of foreign-born human trafficking victims come into the United States legally on visas.

President Trump has previously suggested that human traffickers have brought a flood of victims over unmanned and unwalled stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border. Last month, Trump repeatedly claimed that kidnapped women were tied up and bound with duct tape and then brought over the border in the backs of vehicles.


"They don't go through your port of entry," Trump said of human traffickers while announcing a temporary end to the government shutdown in late January. "They make a right turn going very quickly. They go into the desert areas or whatever areas you can look at and as soon as there's no protection they make a left or a right into the United States of America."

The president went on to claim that human traffickers "can't come through the port because if they come through the port people will see four women sitting in a van with tape around their face and around their mouth." Trump's main point of argument has been that a border wall would bring an end to such human trafficking.

But immigration attorney Evangeline Chan, who serves as director of Safe Horizon's Immigration Law Project, told CNN that most foreign-born human trafficking victims enter the country after securing a job, and what they think will be a better life, through a recruiting agency.

"They come in through legal ports of entry," she said. 'But once they're here they realize that the employment that's offered and the conditions that they're working is very different than what was promised them." Chan said such victims are often threatened with deportation, physically harmed, or have their families threatened in an effort to keep them from escaping their situation.

What's more, nonprofit NGO Polaris, which works to end human trafficking and runs the the National Human Trafficking Hotline, has said the idea that human trafficking always or even often involves kidnapping is "by far the most pervasive myth about human trafficking." According to the organization, victims are more often than not lured into trafficking through psychological means. The organization has also pushed back against the myth that it's only undocumented foreign nationals who get trafficked, noting they've "worked on thousands of cases of trafficking involving foreign national survivors who are legally living and/or working in the United States."

So while the president paints a picture of human traffickers driving through the desert to invade the United States with bound and duct-taped women, actual human trafficking statistics tell a different story.
https://www.bustle.com/p/11-human-tr...oblem-15942915

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/po...-at-the-border

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-a-border-wall
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Most victims of sex trafficking enter US legally therefore we cannot help them by building the wall. Conclusion: we don't need the wall on Southern border.
Manufactured crysis & fake news.

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Statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigations. Jesus Christ
If you are incapable to provide a link to the FBI statistics you claim to exist then just say so, no profanity required
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Most victims of sex trafficking enter US legally therefore we cannot help them by building the wall. Conclusion: we don't need the wall on Southern border.
Manufactured crysis & fake news.
Good that you finally got it
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Good that you finally got it
Cannot say the same bout you.
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Wow, trying to normalize human traffickers, pedophiles, child sex slaves etc. What a class act, let me guess, a democrat right?
One of the few things I agree with Trump is how many high level and elite sex rings he has busted up and arrested. In this regard he has accompmished more in two years than the last eight under Obama according to FBI stats. But your response matches that of the dems during the SOTU, complete garbage. And thats an insult to garbage. Where is the #realnews on this issue? They cant bite the hands that feeds them now can they?
This is one of the most hysterical, disjointed, unreferenced, ill-conceived posts I've ever read on EF. There are just too many odd, disconnected and bizarrely wrong concepts to deal with. Where could I even start?

Some Americans really lose their shit when it comes to politics.
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The 2016 Global Slavery Index estimated that including U.S. citizens and immigrants 57,700 people are victims of human trafficking, and the Justice Department estimates that roughly 15,000 children are trafficked into the country every year.

Despite the scale of the problem, and the sinister reality that it’s mainly children affected, the federal government has done little to crack down on the problem. After President Donald Trump took office and began enacting pro-law enforcement policies to “make America safe again,” arrests of human traffickers began to take off like a rocket. According to the Washington Examiner: “With California leading the way, human trafficking, especially in the sex and labor trades, jumped again last year and has surged 842 percent since the creation of a federally-supported hotline for victims. “Reported cases of human trafficking continue to increase each year. In 2017, 8,759 cases were reported to the National Human Trafficking Hotline and BeFree Textline. This number compares to 7,737 reported cases in 2016. The overall figures represent an 842 percent increase over the 10 years Polaris has operated the Hotline,” said the hotline operator which receives federal funding.”
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

You posted "One of the few things I agree with Trump is how many high level and elite sex rings he has busted up and arrested according to FBI stats. "

So now instead of FBI statistics showing an improvement in the Trump years you quote a newspaper report that claims a huge increase in human trafficking in the Trump years.

You do understand this does not support your original post but shows the exact opposite?
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So... your FBI stats comprise one report from some political website that states that human trafficking has increased under President Trump.

I'm not sure I see the support for your argument that Trump has acted dramatically against traffickers.
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publictableau profile for the source doesn't exist.
washington examiner doesn't post arrests.






where are the fbi stats??? bjs.gov has cases until 2015.


https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fphtc15.pdf
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Cannot say the same bout you.
Of course you cannot, because I got it a very long time ago not recently

According to John Kelly who was until recently Trump's chief of staff
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Former White House chief of staff John Kelly on Wednesday voiced opposition to President Trump's push to build a border wall, saying that a structure spanning the entire U.S.-Mexico border would be a "waste of money."
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I know you do not appreciate being confronted with facts and will likely ignore them but there are plenty of people here who do find facts useful.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Seems Manafort got lucky
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A federal judge on Thursday sentenced former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort to 47 months in prison for financial crimes uncovered during special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

Under sentencing guidelines, Manafort faced 19 1/2 to 24 years in prison.
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Manafort cheated the public out of more than $6 million in taxes on income from his work as a political consultant; $1.5 million per prison year is more than most people earn.
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