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Do you really believe there is such a thing as unbiased-ness and absolute objectivity? And people interested in such? If that were the case, why would there be more than one newspaper?

Not even the judges at the federal courts are unbiased, otherwise it wouldn't matter who gets to elect them and which party they lean towards.
When the reporting of news reads more like an Op-Ed, there is a problem. When journalists are rewarded for clickbait, it is an issue. My college roommate was a senior editor at a well-regarded US city newspaper, and she lamented that her job performance reviews involved how many "likes" she received via her Twitter feed (in which she linked articles). And so, the more intriguing or salacious the headline, the more clicks received (which in turn, was tied to her compensation).

Of course, each individual has a bias but in recent years, journalism has sunk to new lows in my view and articles have been printed without proper fact-checking and due diligence. I reference the Rolling Stone article on the UVA so-called "rape", the coverage of the Jessie Smollet case and even the election of Trump. How was it possible that on election night, everyone felt it was a foregone conclusion Hilary would win?

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When the reporting of news reads more like an Op-Ed, there is a problem. When journalists are rewarded for clickbait, it is an issue. My college roommate was a senior editor at a well-regarded US city newspaper, and she lamented that her job performance reviews involved how many "likes" she received via her Twitter feed (in which she linked articles). And so, the more intriguing or salacious the headline, the more clicks received (which in turn, was tied to her compensation).

Of course, each individual has a bias but in recent years, journalism has sunken to new lows in my view and articles have been printed without proper fact-checking and due diligence. I reference the Rolling Stone article on the UVA so-called "rape", the coverage of the Jessie Smollet case and even the election of Trump. How was it possible that on election night, everyone felt it was a foregone conclusion Hilary would win?
According to people here it would have been a 5 minute job for her to knock up a bot to generate enormous numbers of "likes"? So why didn't she?
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According to people here it would have been a 5 minute job for her to knock up a bot to generate enormous numbers of "likes"? So why didn't she?
Lol! I guess she had integrity and felt her work should speak for itself. She just left journalism after 30 years with the same newspaper. She told me that cost-cutting measures by newspapers have hampered journalists/newspapers from doing a "proper" job regarding research and fact-checking notwithstanding conducting polls. 30 years ago, there were 240 people employed by her employer/newspaper and today, it is roughly 75. She feels lucky to have held her job for so long!
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Old 12.04.2019, 20:34
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Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities ....
Typical Trump revenge syndrome!!

It is claimed Government lawyers already indicated that such a process would not conform to US law.

Anyway lucky the "Sanctuary Cities" are not smart enough to consider hiring buses to distribute the Immigrants elsewhere.
Might be a good time to buy shares in bus companies while the cities of different political flavours ship the immigrants to and fro!
If they were smart they would ship them all down to Mar El Lago!

Best tweet reply so far; "He does realize that once the immigrants are in sanctuary cities it’ll be much harder for ICE to kick them out, right?"
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Fascinating Op-Ed in the WSJ regarding Barr, Comey, et al.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-br...ty-11555022792

I note the following from the article:

"First, Mr. Comey and other intelligence officials, including Mr. Clapper, engineered the public release of all the scandalous claims against Mr. Trump, to provide some cover. As liberal commentator Matt Taibbi notes in his new book, “Hate Inc.” Mr. Comey’s Jan. 6, 2017, briefing of the president-elect about the dossier was a classic Washington “trick.” It served as the “pretext” to get the details out, a “news hook” to allow the press to publish the dossier—with its salacious fictions about prostitutes and Moscow hotel rooms—and go wild."

"Engineered" being the operative word here. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Matt Taibbi also lived in Moscow for years and was co-EIC of TheExiled... He knows how things work there better than just about anyone. I don't agree with his politics, but I respect his journalism and writing.

PS - The other co-EIC was my college roommate and I am still in touch with him, so follow these guys pretty closely.

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Fascinating Op-Ed in the WSJ regarding Barr, Comey, et al.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-br...ty-11555022792

I note the following from the article:

"First, Mr. Comey and other intelligence officials, including Mr. Clapper, engineered the public release of all the scandalous claims against Mr. Trump, to provide some cover. As liberal commentator Matt Taibbi notes in his new book, “Hate Inc.” Mr. Comey’s Jan. 6, 2017, briefing of the president-elect about the dossier was a classic Washington “trick.” It served as the “pretext” to get the details out, a “news hook” to allow the press to publish the dossier—with its salacious fictions about prostitutes and Moscow hotel rooms—and go wild."

"Engineered" being the operative word here. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Matt Taibbi also lived in Moscow for years and was co-EIC of TheExiled... He knows how things work there better than just about anyone. I don't agree with his politics, but I respect his journalism and writing.
I also respect Taibbi regarding his journalism. And the fact that he assails the media is telling. His twitter account is pretty interesting as well.
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Hmm what? He was running against Romney, who I happen to despise. With Obama, there was a pattern of behavior that didn't really emerge until his 2nd term and is becoming more evident now. Again, I don't think history will be kind to the Obama years. That is my prediction. Time will tell.
And you didn't happen to despise Trump too? (I don't believe things only emerged when it was too late, not if people payed attention)Voting for Obama the second time would be the same as voting for Hillary in 2016 for the same reasons.
But seriously, what do you think Trump has done any better? I'm trying to understand this logic. For the record - I'm not an Obama's fan. I'm neutral. Trying to figure out who could have possibly voted for that man - in good faith - and their reasoning is just one of my many interests. I might sound harsh because English is obviously not my first language, so please don't feel "attacked".

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But seriously, what do you think Trump has done any better? I'm trying to understand this logic. For the record - I'm not an Obama's fan. I'm neutral.
Trying to figure out who could have possibly voted for that man - in good faith - and their reasoning is just one of my many interests. I might sound harsh because English is obviously not my first language, so please don't feel "attacked".
When you figure it out let me know. I find myself at a complete loss to understand it myself.
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So what did I miss?.... rhubarb rhubarb.. "Kennedy Assassination", well thats up there with the moon landings in the Chapeau métallique stakes ... rhubarb rhubarb ... Spanky "just makes his supporters laugh and is better than Obama" not worth replying to.. rhubarb rhubarb.. "Spanky only gets put down for how he looks and typos" well, that and being devoid of any decent character traits.

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And you didn't happen to despise Trump too? (I don't believe things only emerged when it was too late, not if people payed attention)Voting for Obama the second time would be the same as voting for Hillary in 2016 for the same reasons.
But seriously, what do you think Trump has done any better? I'm trying to understand this logic. For the record - I'm not an Obama's fan. I'm neutral. Trying to figure out who could have possibly voted for that man - in good faith - and their reasoning is just one of my many interests. I might sound harsh because English is obviously not my first language, so please don't feel "attacked".
'that man' meaning which one? I can totally understand people voting Obama (who was a horrible disappointment for me) and voting Spanky. I disagree with the logic but Spanks was the ultimate protest vote, the perfect hand grenade to blow up the Washington establishment and he promised all the things a certain part of the electorate *wanted* to believe. However I don't think they expected he would be this corrupt and dishonest, I don't think anyone did.

What I can't understand is how people have failed to learn from the last two years and still support him, we know the character of the man, unfiltered by any news media we know he's a liar, a misogynist, a racist, a narcissist and weekly he proves himself unfit for office. The jury is no longer out, it's out, the plaintive confessed, the jury's back in, thanked for their service, sent home and back at work holding court at the coffee machine.

This MC is the reason there is no debate, the time for debate was in the months after the election before we got a good look at how terrible a person he is, all that's left is recounting his misdeeds and shaking heads and wondering 'how much longer can he fool them?'. When someone tells you who they are, as Spanky has time and time again, it's wise to listen.
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So what did I miss?.... rhubarb rhubarb.. "Kennedy Assassination", well thats up there with the moon landings in the Chapeau métallique stakes ... rhubarb rhubarb ... Spanky "just makes his supporters laugh and is better than Obama" not worth replying to.. rhubarb rhubarb.. "Spanky only gets put down for how he looks and typos" well, that and being devoid of any decent character traits.
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Now those posts made me laugh, but I'm trying my best to ignore them.

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'that man' meaning which one? I can totally understand people voting Obama (who was a horrible disappointment for me) and voting Spanky. I disagree with the logic but Spanks was the ultimate protest vote, the perfect hand grenade to blow up the Washington establishment and he promised all the things a certain part of the electorate *wanted* to believe. However I don't think they expected he would be this corrupt and dishonest, I don't think anyone did.
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I meant Trump, of course. I can understand voting Obama very well, but only for the first mandate if you were not a true democrat.
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Trump continuing down his path of dividing his country.
Anti-Muslim video pinned to the top of his twitter feed.
Doubling down on his threat to ship illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities.

I sometimes wonder if the US will ever recover from Trump!
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Trump continuing down his path of dividing his country.
Anti-Muslim video pinned to the top of his twitter feed.
Doubling down on his threat to ship illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities.

I sometimes wonder if the US will ever recover from Trump!
Yeah, causing controversy all round.

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Pity it is not Friday!

Trump's reaction after House Speaker Pelosi was interviewed on TV

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Such a “puff piece” on Nancy Pelosi by @60minutes, yet her leadership has passed no meaningful Legislation.
All they do is Investigate, as it turns out, crimes that they instigated & committed.
The Mueller No Collusion decision wasn’t even discussed-and she was a disaster at W.H.

2:28 AM - 15 Apr 2019
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Thanks for watching!
We will continue to do our work #ForThePeople.
The lady has class!

Finally some good news, Spanky has quietly deleted his tweet against Omar which contained an anti Muslim video.
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Pity it is not Friday!



Finally some good news, Spanky has quietly deleted his tweet against Omar which contained an anti Muslim video.
I’m glad, that was completely inappropriate. But it begs the question, does the Spankster do anything quietly?
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US President encouraging Boeing to trick his people into flying on possibly dangerous aircraft

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What do I know about branding, maybe nothing (but I did become President!), but if I were Boeing, I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX, add some additional great features, & REBRAND the plane with a new name.
No product has suffered like this one. But again, what the hell do I know?

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Finally some good news, Spanky has quietly deleted his tweet against Omar which contained an anti Muslim video.
the damage is probably done, the seed planted
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilh...ats-on-my-life


posting from Faux news so the Spanky fans can feel comfortable reading it.
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When the reporting of news reads more like an Op-Ed, there is a problem. When journalists are rewarded for clickbait, it is an issue.
A newssource will always face the dilemma between "selling" and "producing good stuff". In fact every enterprise must compromise between the two extremes at every corner they turn, it's an unavoidable consequence of the fact that resources are limited and that they need to produce/sell.
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US President encouraging Boeing to trick his people into flying on possibly dangerous aircraft

You missed the part "I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX".
Also, he is right about the name. That's too much damaged.
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You missed the part "I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX".
Also, he is right about the name. That's too much damaged.
As US President he should be saying something much, much stronger like " I will do everything in my power to ensure the planes are fully tested and safe to fly on before people are allowed to fly on them again"

But he won't, because he is into quick fixes like changing the name.

Anyway the name that is damaged is "Boeing"!

Finally, last word goes to George
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“Trump Shuttle ‘ran out of cash and defaulted on its debt in September 1990,’” George Conway tweeted, linking to the Wikipedia entry on the airline owned by Trump from 1989 to 1992.
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