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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...usiness-losses

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This is the genius of Trump. Even his losses were the bigliest in the country during those years.
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Again all exaggerated news. Didn't you ever lose a billion?
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Again all exaggerated news. Didn't you ever lose a billion?
Yeah, it's amazing what turns up down the back of the sofa, though. Two bits of Lego, a boiled sweet and a billion bucks.
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Again all exaggerated news. Didn't you ever lose a billion?
Probably - Who hasn't? It's the sort of pocket change we EFers don't bother about if we drop it on the street.
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Oh dear oh dear, his supporters have been clinging to that last fantasy that he was a business genius.


Still supporting him is like when your mates partner is cheating on them, and everyone knows it, and secretly she does too, but keeps making more and more ridiculous excuses
'Look I actually saw him shagging your mum'
'No no he explained all that, Mum has a part in the churches christmas play, and err theres a sex scene and mum was nervous about it and he said he would help her and they were just pretending and he really loves me and he's the greatest president of all time, sniff"
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FBI Director Wray distances himself from Barr's use of 'spying' on Trump campaign

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Looks like we will soon have a new FBI Director?

Amazing how Trump can find someone else to blame for his own failures!
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The reason for the China pullback & attempted renegotiation of the Trade Deal is the sincere HOPE that they will be able to “negotiate” with Joe Biden or one of the very weak Democrats, and thereby continue to ripoff the United States (($500 Billion a year)) for years to come.
Guess what, that’s not going to happen! China has just informed us that they (Vice-Premier) are now coming to the U.S. to make a deal. We’ll see, but I am very happy with over $100 Billion a year in Tariffs filling U.S. coffers...great for U.S., not good for China!.
He really is worried about Biden!
He still does not get that it is the US consumers, not China, who pay the tariffs
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He and his fans already put a spin on this during the 2016 campaign. Trump's argument is that he IS a business genius, because he uses all the laws and tricks to his advantage. Declaring bankruptcy and short-changing the hard-working men and women who worked for you is legal. Doing it repeatedly to avoid paying your debts and your taxes is genius. He even said in one speech that he knows how to handle taxes better than anyone so he should be the president that pushes through tax reform. At least the part about knowing how to work the system seems true.

On the one hand we could argue what he's done is unethical and has put a lot of non-rich people out of business. On the other, the IRS has yet to charge him with tax fraud despite being audited regularly so at the moment it's not illegal.
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He and his fans already put a spin on this during the 2016 campaign. Trump's argument is that he IS a business genius, because he uses all the laws and tricks to his advantage. Declaring bankruptcy and short-changing the hard-working men and women who worked for you is legal. Doing it repeatedly to avoid paying your debts and your taxes is genius. He even said in one speech that he knows how to handle taxes better than anyone so he should be the president that pushes through tax reform. At least the part about knowing how to work the system seems true.

On the one hand we could argue what he's done is unethical and has put a lot of non-rich people out of business. On the other, the IRS has yet to charge him with tax fraud despite being audited regularly so at the moment it's not illegal.
All true but it's known to be spin because if this was in anyway positive for him we'd have known about it endlessly ages ago.
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He and his fans already put a spin on this during the 2016 campaign. Trump's argument is that he IS a business genius, because he uses all the laws and tricks to his advantage. Declaring bankruptcy and short-changing the hard-working men and women who worked for you is legal. Doing it repeatedly to avoid paying your debts and your taxes is genius. He even said in one speech that he knows how to handle taxes better than anyone so he should be the president that pushes through tax reform. At least the part about knowing how to work the system seems true.

On the one hand we could argue what he's done is unethical and has put a lot of non-rich people out of business. On the other, the IRS has yet to charge him with tax fraud despite being audited regularly so at the moment it's not illegal.

Try to see it from a fan point of view: he loses a billion, then comes back, becomes a reality tv star and finally becomes president. The American Dream
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HALF of Americans don't pay income tax despite crippling govt debt...
9:59 PM - Feb 23, 2012

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well you should know Donnie, you should know
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Dow dropped around 600 and finished around 470 points down; imagine if theoretically Spanky could inform associates before tweeting then they could make billions
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Trump tweet sends stocks of electric vehicle maker soaring; "GM will be selling their beautiful Lordstown Plant to Workhorse".
CNBC reported Wednesday that shares of Workhorse stock surged from about $0.82 cents to $1.62 per share.
GM later clarified that the company was still in the final discussions of selling the plant to Workhorse, which is valued around $105 million.

Meanwhile Trump running scared
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Republican lawmakers on Wednesday ripped the decision by the Republican led Senate Intelligence Committee to subpoena Donald Trump, Jr., the president’s eldest son and a key witness in the investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election.
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Surprising decision by a Republican led group, holds some hope for future bipartisan activities and genuine Congressional oversight.
This is the first time anybody in Trump's family faces a Congressional subpoena.

Meanwhile from ex Trump national security adviser McMaster
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Comes from an excellent source but no surprise about the content of his statement.
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Again all exaggerated news. Didn't you ever lose a billion?
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He and his fans already put a spin on this during the 2016 campaign. Trump's argument is that he IS a business genius, because he uses all the laws and tricks to his advantage. Declaring bankruptcy and short-changing the hard-working men and women who worked for you is legal. Doing it repeatedly to avoid paying your debts and your taxes is genius. He even said in one speech that he knows how to handle taxes better than anyone so he should be the president that pushes through tax reform. At least the part about knowing how to work the system seems true.

On the one hand we could argue what he's done is unethical and has put a lot of non-rich people out of business. On the other, the IRS has yet to charge him with tax fraud despite being audited regularly so at the moment it's not illegal.
A former ghostwriter, Charles Leehrsen, for President Trump said that during part of the period when he reportedly lost more than $1 billion, Trump was neither "perpetually ashen-faced with fear" nor, as the president suggested in a tweet this week, expressing pleasure at the idea of gaming the IRS.

Leehrsen describes the early part of their time together as Trump’s "'King Midas’ period,” calling Trump “a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference.”

Leehrsen describes an aide at one point telling him that if every room at the Plaza Hotel was occupied at list price every night, the revenue still would not cover the loan Trump had taken out to buy the hotel.

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Another of Trump’s ghostwriters, “Art of the Deal” writer Tony Schwartz, a frequent critic of the president, tweeted Wednesday that the book should be reclassified as fiction in light of the reports.
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The best

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From Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano;
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On Thursday he denounced Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's report as a "deceptive" and "foolish attempt to sanitize" the conclusions from Mueller's investigation.

"It is clear that Barr's four-page letter, about which Mueller complained to Barr and some of Mueller's team complained to the media, was a foolish attempt to sanitize the Mueller report".

"It was misleading, disingenuous and deceptive. Also, because Barr knew that all or nearly all of the Mueller report would soon enter the public domain, it was dumb and insulting."

He also condemned the attorney general for clearing Trump in the probe, saying that the Justice Department "is not in the business of exonerating the people it investigates."
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Meanwhile White House announced that the U.S. and China would continue trade talks on Friday after discussions wrapped up Thursday without a deal to avert additional tariffs. US stock market furures continue crashing down with the Dow down almost 1,000 points in the last couple of weeks.

Let us hope the self confessed world's best deal maker can pull these chestnuts out of the fire before he crashes the world economy.
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Meanwhile White House announced that the U.S. and China would continue trade talks on Friday after discussions wrapped up Thursday without a deal to avert additional tariffs. US stock market furures continue crashing down with the Dow down almost 1,000 points in the last couple of weeks.

Let us hope the self confessed world's best deal maker can pull these chestnuts out of the fire before he crashes the world economy.
Trump throwing fuel on the fire again!

The Trump administration made good on its threat to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese exports from 10% to 25% earlier today.

Beijing expressed "deep regret" at the latest US move, and reiterated that it would "have to take necessary countermeasures."

Talks continue between US & China; no doubt in a great spirit of goodwill
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Trump throwing fuel on the fire again!

The Trump administration made good on its threat to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese exports from 10% to 25% earlier today.

Beijing expressed "deep regret" at the latest US move, and reiterated that it would "have to take necessary countermeasures."

Talks continue between US & China; no doubt in a great spirit of goodwill

Just for fun, China could announce an export stop on iPhones.
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Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Friday that a U.S. delegation concluded trade talks with top Chinese officials after about two hours of meetings, but did not announce a deal resolving the two countries’ long-running dispute.
Next steps are unknown.

This has been an awful week for US foreign policy.
N. Korea is again firing test missiles and Congress approval for the NAFTA replacement (USMCA) is somewhere lost in space!
Trump's support for the opposition leader Guaido to the Venezuelan President Maduro has so far failed to achieve any results and he has sent a "gunboat" to Iran with unknown objectives.
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