Blinkers off, you were alive under Nixon.

Eisenhower, definitely not. Maybe Nixon. Although for me it was GWB. Preparing for a new low.

Conjoining Trump and sex together is quite disturbing enough. What kind of sick bastard with daddy issues would even conjure up such imagery? Sounds like something Hillary or Podesta's side would come up with. But once again, they missed. Because...

Meanwhile, Rex Tillerson, ex- CEO of ExxonMobil, will ease into becoming Secretary of State. This man looks like he walked off the set of "There Will Be Blood". He's 100% deal-making, while "moral/ethical principles" are simply issues of lip service with this guy.

Get this, he doesn't seem to really buy into any of the Anthropogenic Climate Change hysteria.

If the Left weren't so befuddled, one would think this is what they should be getting triggered about. Instead, they get their rocks off about pee. :roll eyes:

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And to think we have four more years of this entertainment

(or until he gets impeached)

This is exactly the sort of shit slinging circus we need after decades of repetitive politicians. Just imagine, all the problems in the world and a press conference takes place because someone said he likes seeing hookers piss on each other.

The fact he's slightly camp really adds to the show.

Oh, not everyone, Phos. Some people are paying attention. But yes, it's easy to get lost in the flamboyance, general ickiness and circus performance. More people need to pay attention to the nuts and bolts.

Says the happy republican

Of course George Dubya unlawfully invaded countries, started lots of conflicts and helped his families business interests in big oil. Johnson ravaged Vietnam without a care. Nixon was a proper evil crook. Reagan (with Thatcher) turned the world into brainwashed consumers.

Obama just failed to overrule some pretty bad American policies like shutting down Guantanamo and creating tougher gun legislation. He succeeded in many areas where others had failed. Unfortunately for Obama, America is a warring nation and shutting down the war machine is not an easy thing, there are too many players and theres to much money involved. I could go on about how addicted to oil and guns you guys are, but it would be easier to piss on Trumps head from the top of Trump Towers in a gale then to convince people how selfish they are when in comes to weapons and fossil fuel.

Anyway Trump won't stop the bombing or wars, he'll just make life in the domestic arena worse for the marginalised and weak. 2017 will see just as many bombs dropped by drones in the 7 wars currently being waged by America. Trump will only serve to divide an already divided nation, the Black and Hispanic minorities will feel even more excluded, so expect more rioting and civil disorder. The right wing will embrace all of this, even though they are not fully endorsed by Trump, they feel that he is one of them.

Good luck world, we need a lot of luck if we are going to get through this without some major incidents occurring closer to home.

Bread and Circuses.

I think we're still only seeing a jovial and celebratory Trump who is amicably waiting until he's Commander in Chief. We've yet to see the angry, pissed-off Trump. I think some people will poop their pants.

Not really. He tends to generate the more *facepalm" reaction you get with the embarrassing ageing uncle who gets wheeled out at family gatherings, topped up with pints of mild and sausage rolls, falls asleep, pisses himself then gets wheeled home again...

He was funny for 5 minutes, we all kinda hoped he'd be elected, drop the idiot persona and shake things up - or at least not make things worse, turns out he really IS an idiot, and we're all screwed.

What's the difference between a lentil and a chickpea?

Trump wouldn't pay $1000 to have a lentil on his face

And this was just visionary

Apparently he's into that too.

I'm willing to bet on this: Number of bombs dropped by Obama vs. Trump. Also willing to bet on improvement of race relations, and quality of life for minorities in urban areas.

Obama failed miserably on all these, but caps it all off with a great parting speech. I say its very easy for Trump to outperform Obama.

Name your wager.

Trumps track record on these so far would strongly suggest otherwise

How are you going to quantify "improvement of race relations"? Fewer being shot by police/each other? Equality in education, employment, representation?

Well I am not going to bet with you Phos, but not because I am worried about losing as I am sure my predictions will be far more accurate then yours, but rather because I would have to meet you in person to collect my dues.

Of course there are important parallels with the Max Mosley case. However, the Mosley case centred not around whether the allegations were true or not (very impressive video footage emerged which for a long time could be viewed on LiveLeaks.com), but rather the breach of his privacy.
One other interesting detail emerged, that is a British Security Services connection. One of the mistresses in "dungeon scene" was the wife of an MI5 secret agent, leading to suspicion of an official hand in it all.
All in all, for entertainment value, the Trump case has the slight edge over the Mosely case, not withstanding the small detail that the Trump case appears in retrospect to have been an elaborate fabrication.

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Amen (yeah) to that, esp. the comments in bold.

That's a good point, but it also depends on the wager. It could also be a truth or dare wager.

By the way, I'm almost always right.

Don't all these things interconnect?

More people in jobs or education or starting companies means fewer giving up on life and thus getting into crime, drugs and nasty situations with the cops.