Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 958

amogles · #**19141** 06.06.2019, 17:20

	Quote:	reids
	Pretend to be a supporter of such a man and see if you get shunned? Pretend to be suckered by the most obvious lies and see if you get mocked? really?

So you're saying it's fake news that people who do that do get mocked.

But you won't do it yourself, not even as an experiment, because you don't want to get mocked.

Urs Max · #**19142** 06.06.2019, 18:17

	Quote:	marton
	Strange logic! I was never a politician so by your logic if I criticise a politician then I am a hypocrite?

Try again.

greenmount · #**19143** 06.06.2019, 18:31

	Quote:	k_and_e
	I also found reids' post shocking. Just describing half the American voters as a lower kind of people. As an experiment, just try to out yourself as a Trump supporter among your friends or at work, learn how tolerant people are and post your experience on the forum.

Oh yeah, right. You're here for so many years and are still shocked by such remarks (don't know if reids implied that but I'll pretend he did)...On English Forum, for goodness sake!

I wouldn't say all of those voters are a lower kind of people, but they're definitely a very strange crowd. I give some of them the benefit of the doubt - they didn't know exactly who or what were they voting for. Maybe for many it was just an anti-Clinton vote and they're deeply embarrassed by the situation now. After all of Trump's comments and tweets and so on - there's little you can say to defend him. Why would anyone like to put themselves in such a spot? As much as I respect people who own their actions....there's no point in doing that.

reids · #**19144** 06.06.2019, 20:08

	Quote:	amogles
	Really? Seeing whataboutery is now ok, wasn't Obama much more into fawning over dictators in China and Iran? As Loz said, Trump is not perfect. In fact he's a monstrous twat with narcissim issues that will not be forgotten for generations to come. But so were many presidents before him. If you just think of all the elbowing and backstabbing you need to do to even get into a position where you can be considered suitable for the job, this should be clear. Let's just get real and stop the fearmongering.

Looking at history and drawing parallels is not fearmongering, a Muslim ban because they might be terrorists, Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, a migrant caravan is set to swarm over the border, thats fearmongering.

reids · #**19145** 06.06.2019, 20:09

	Quote:	amogles
	So you're saying it's fake news that people who do that do get mocked. But you won't do it yourself, not even as an experiment, because you don't want to get mocked.

what???

st2lemans · #**19146** 06.06.2019, 20:13

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Trump will be gone after the next elections - unless of course the country again doesn't manage to come up with a single credible candidate.

In short, you agree that Trump will get four more years!

Tom

amogles · #**19147** 06.06.2019, 20:14

	Quote:	reids
	Looking at history and drawing parallels is not fearmongering, a Muslim ban because they might be terrorists, Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, a migrant caravan is set to swarm over the border, thats fearmongering.

Because Trump has banned all Mexicans because they might be drug dealers and rapists?

Jim2007 · #**19148** 06.06.2019, 21:19

Someone made a nice bit of cash...

Trump administration paid Wicklow funeral firm €830k to rent luxury limousines for Ireland stay

Nice money for one overnight!

marton · #**19149** 06.06.2019, 22:04

	Quote:	amogles
	Because Trump has banned all Mexicans because they might be drug dealers and rapists?

Yawn!
No because of what he said!

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	Donald Trump’s false comments connecting Mexican immigrants and crime July 8, 2015 “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

Source

Then he doubled down

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	August 2, 2018 Donald Trump: calling Mexicans ‘rapists’ was ‘peanuts’ next to the ‘truth’

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amogles · #**19150** 06.06.2019, 22:14

	Quote:	marton
	Yawn! No because of what he said! Source Then he doubled down Source

so when a guy who is know for talking a lot of cr*p talks a bit of cr*p, that is precisely the same as banning all Mexicans and banning all Muslims?

You know, if back in the day people who didn't like Obama had brought this sort of stuff up against him, they would (rightly) have been called batshit crazy.

#**19151** 06.06.2019, 22:15

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Someone made a nice bit of cash... Trump administration paid Wicklow funeral firm €830k to rent luxury limousines for Ireland stay Nice money for one overnight!

Haha, he doesn't take a salary... But his limousine expenses for one day are 2.5x the presidential salary. He is truly a man of the people.

marton · #**19152** 06.06.2019, 22:34

	Quote:	amogles
	so when a guy who is know for talking a lot of crp talks a bit of crp, that is precisely the same as banning all Mexicans and banning all Muslims? You know, if back in the day people who didn't like Obama had brought this sort of stuff up against him, they would (rightly) have been called batshit crazy.

Obama was too presidential to label a neighbouring friendly country in such a foul way.

Please explain your logical steps on how you link this Trump abusive rhetoric to your coming up with the idea that Trump will ban all Mexicans; the rest of us are discussing the Muslim ban

greenmount · #**19153** 06.06.2019, 22:38

	Quote:	marton
	how you link this Trump abusive rhetoric to your coming up with the idea that Trump will ban all Mexicans;

Oh, not all of them. He still needs some for his hotels...

Goodness, this anti-immigration rhetoric here and there, everywhere, is so hypocritical. They need (cheap) workforce like they need air and they still piss and shit on entire nations of people. Disgusting.

It's not about banning people by country of origin, is the signal you send to the public.

amogles · #**19154** 06.06.2019, 23:28

	Quote:	marton
	...on how you link this Trump abusive rhetoric to your coming up with the idea that Trump will ban all Mexicans ...

my question exactly.

k_and_e · #**19155** 06.06.2019, 23:32

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Someone made a nice bit of cash... Trump administration paid Wicklow funeral firm €830k to rent luxury limousines for Ireland stay Nice money for one overnight!

Missed chance in your post.

You could have mentioned that he rented from a funeral firm.
Or that he drives cars abroad that he would love to ban at home.

marton · #**19156** 06.06.2019, 23:55

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Missed chance in your post. You could have mentioned that he rented from a funeral firm. Or that he drives cars abroad that he would love to ban at home.

He needs the space in the back to lie down

amogles · #**19157** 07.06.2019, 14:01

	Quote:	marton
	He needs the space in the back to lie down

it's called thinking outside the box

marton · #**19158** 07.06.2019, 16:20

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	The U.S economy added 75,000 jobs in May, the Labor Department reported Friday, falling short of expectations by nearly 100,000 jobs.. The Labor Department also revised down March’s gain from 189,000 to 153,000 jobs, and April’s gain from 263,000 to 224,000 jobs. The revision shaved 75,000 jobs off the books for 2019.

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It maybe that the growth in employment is peaking? After all it cannot continue for ever, it is not like Frankenstein is creating new workers in a cellar somewhere.

There is also the problem that the U.S. population is aging quickly. Baby boomers are retiring en masse and Americans are having far fewer children, on average, than any other time in history.

Source

marton · #**19159** 09.06.2019, 00:26

Trump has cancelled his plan to place tariffs on Mexican goods while they have agreed to take actions to limit migrants but

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	President Trump's deal with Mexico to drop plans to impose sweeping tariffs is reportedly largely made up of actions that Mexico had already agreed to take over the past several months, The New York Times reported Saturday. According to the Times, officials from both countries said Mexico's agreement to deploy its national guard throughout Mexico, "giving priority to its southern border," had already been promised in March during secret discussions with then-Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Olga Sanchez, the Mexican secretary of the interior, in Miami. Officials told the Times that the central part of Friday's deal, which expanded the program permitting asylum-seekers to remain in Mexico while their claims are processed, was also agreed upon before Friday's announcement. The Times noted that the Migrant Protection Protocols were announced in December by Nielsen during a House Judiciary Committee hearing.

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Same old Trump cr#p as usual

reids · #**19160** 10.06.2019, 11:28

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Someone made a nice bit of cash... Trump administration paid Wicklow funeral firm €830k to rent luxury limousines for Ireland stay Nice money for one overnight!

Adding up the other transport cost his trip to Ireland to promote his golf course cost the US taxpayer 3.6m. Apparently flying in the opposite direction was 'closer and more convenient' than staying in London or even Paris, Paris being both geographically closer and in the right direction. Total cost to the US taxpayer of presidential golf now stands at 106m.