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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Honesty from a Fox News Opinion contributor!
Following an interview with President Trump on D-Day, Fox News host Laura Ingraham had to clarify that Trump's claim that the interview held up the D-Day ceremony was "fake news."

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Watch Fox News host call Trump statement 'fake news'!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As news emerges that the half-brother Kim Jong Un had murdered was a CIA source. Given Kim had him murdered, how did the US president respond when asked what he would say to Kim on the subject of his half brother being a CIA source?

"I would tell him that would not happen under my auspices"

Bravo just bravo.
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Old 13.06.2019, 00:32
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump in Wonderland!

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President Donald Trump said again on Tuesday that he has worked out a further [secret] agreement with Mexico to slow illegal immigration into the U.S., showing reporters a piece of paper which he says contains immigration plans which can be triggered by him at any time in the future.
Of course, the cameramen with their super high quality equipment took photos of the piece of paper and are now publishing extracts. Not surprisingly, no new secret agreements just boring detailed stuff already published.

It would be pathetic except he has the "bigger" button to start nuclear war!!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Donald J. TrumpVerified account

Good day in the Stock Market. People have no idea the tremendous potential our Country has for GROWTH - and many other things!

3:55 PM - 11 Jun 2019
Soon after Trump tweeted, all the major US stock indices turned negative, finished the session down and down again yesterday!

Trump keeps claiming Russia has removed troops from Venezuela despite official Kremlin denials.

and yesterday

Trump throws open 2020 election to foreign spies!
Anchor George Stephanopoulos during ABC interview brought up FBI Director Christopher Wray's warning that anyone who received incriminating information from a foreign power should call the bureau.
"The FBI director is wrong," Trump said.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"Those polls we did that show me losing in 17 states are fake polls, we're winning everywhere"

to repeat for emphasis, these were internal polls done by his own campaign, but they are nevertheless 'fake' because they show him in a bad light.

#delusional
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Trump throws open 2020 election to foreign spies!
Anchor George Stephanopoulos during ABC interview brought up FBI Director Christopher Wray's warning that anyone who received incriminating information from a foreign power should call the bureau.
"The FBI director is wrong," Trump said.
Quite a ride we've been on:
"We had nothing to do with the Russians. Russia was not trying to get me elected. FAKE NEWS"

"Sure, we met with Russian Gov reps at Trump Tower but we talked about adoption policy."

"By adoption policy, we mean US-Russia sanctions. But no collusion!"

"Sure, the Russian Gov reps explicitly offered us hacked dirt on our political opponents when arranging the meeting. And Donald Trump Jr. explicitly encouraged its release in an email in the summer before the election, but the hacked content was not shared in the meeting!"

"Sure, we were negotiating a massive business deal (Trump tower in Moscow) with the Russian government during the campaign and lied about it. But what do you expect us to do? Tell the truth?"

"Huh? Paul Manafort, who? You mean the jailed former Trump campaign manager who committed multiple felonies of tax fraud and money laundering working with Russian oligarchs and shared internal campaign data with a person suspected of being a Russian spy. It's not at all troublesome that he was working for the campaign for free, I'm sure his debts to Russian oligarchs had no impact on his loyalties. Besides, campaign manager? what an unimportant job! That has nothing to do with the Trump campaign. NO COLLUSION!"

"OK Russia did try to help Trump in the election, but we rebuffed their overtures."

President Trump, would you collude with a foreign government in 2020?
"Sure, why not. Nothing wrong with a little collusion."

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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"Those polls we did that show me losing in 17 states are fake polls, we're winning everywhere"

to repeat for emphasis, these were internal polls done by his own campaign, but they are nevertheless 'fake' because they show him in a bad light.

#delusional
Keep in mind that just prior to the election, nearly every major, reputable poll showed that Clinton would win. Not necessarily in a landslide, but she'd win. Those reputable polls were all wrong.

There are a lot of closet Trump supporters. If I was running as a democrat, those are the voters I'd worry about - not the avid Trump fans. I would not be surprised if many closet Trump supporters say they support Biden or someone else for now, only to check the Trump box once behind the voting curtain.
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Old 13.06.2019, 17:19
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"Closet supporters" - what a political climate to live in where people prefer to retreat to dissent. Reminds me of something familiar

I'd worry about that too.
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"Closet supporters" - what a political climate to live in where people prefer to retreat to dissent. Reminds me of something familiar

I'd worry about that too.
Could be worse. The US could be following the UK's lead and selecting a leader based on who isn't the biggest smackhead.
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Keep in mind that just prior to the election, nearly every major, reputable poll showed that Clinton would win. Not necessarily in a landslide, but she'd win. Those reputable polls were all wrong.

There are a lot of closet Trump supporters. If I was running as a democrat, those are the voters I'd worry about - not the avid Trump fans. I would not be surprised if many closet Trump supporters say they support Biden or someone else for now, only to check the Trump box once behind the voting curtain.
True, but the point isn't about what the polls are saying so much as the nonstop blatant and easily disprovable lies.
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Could be worse. The US could be following the UK's lead and selecting a leader based on who isn't the biggest smackhead.
I see what you did there
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Old 13.06.2019, 18:03
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Prognosticators should definitely be cautious, there is a LONG way to go and polling is an inexact science. But, the "Shy Trump Voter" hypothesis is not really supported by the data. Here's a discussion if you're interested. In short, places where Trump beat the polls other conventional Republicans beat the polls by similar or larger margins than Trump. It's more likely pollsters just got fundamentals wrong in the midwest states that threw the election (e.g. the size of the GOP base in these states).

Nationally the polls were fairly accurate in 2016.
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Of the 13 final national polls conducted the week before the election that tested the four-way presidential contest, only one had Trump ahead and 12 put Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton on top.

That would seem to be a veritable disaster for the polling industry, right?

Not exactly.

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.

Ironically, all 12 polls that had Clinton ahead turned out to be closer to the final outcome than the poll that had Trump ahead. While that may seem crazy — since Trump, not Clinton, is headed to the White House — it's true. The poll that put Trump ahead (by 2 points) was off by 4.1 points, while polls that gave Clinton the lead were off anywhere from only one-tenth of a point to less than 4 points.

National polling did much better in 2016 than in 2012, when the average of the final polls in the contest between President Obama and GOP nominee Mitt Romney was off by more than 3 points. Polls showed Obama winning the popular vote by only seven-tenths of a point, and on Election Day he captured a wider 3.9-point vote margin.
(Gotta love the electoral college. Minority governments are so much fun...)
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"Closet supporters" - what a political climate to live in where people prefer to retreat to dissent. Reminds me of something familiar

I'd worry about that too.
Yup I'm worried that there are people who are so ashamed of their guy that they would lie in an anonymous poll about it.
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Old 13.06.2019, 18:12
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Yup I'm worried that there are people who are so ashamed of their guy that they would lie in an anonymous poll about it.
Or who love to troll the media outlets they have come to hate by wilfully falsifying their data?
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True, but the point isn't about what the polls are saying so much as the nonstop blatant and easily disprovable lies.
Surely, if he himself comissioned a poll, and then announced it is fake, shouldn't he be the one to know?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Federal agency recommends that Kellyanne Conway be removed from service over Hatch Act
By ANITA KUMAR 06/13/2019 12:05 PM EDT

The government office that oversees compliance with the Hatch Act has recommended that White House counselor Kellyanne Conway be removed from federal service.

The U.S. Office of Special Counsel sent a report to President Donald Trump on Thursday that said Conway violated the law numerous times by criticizing Democratic presidential candidates while speaking in her official capacity during television interviews and on social media.

The office, which is not affiliated with Robert Mueller, has never before made such a recommendation for a White House official.
BEST PRESIDENCY EVER! (measured in ethics violations)
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Surely, if he himself comissioned a poll, and then announced it is fake, shouldn't he be the one to know?
are you seriously trying to make a case that he might not be lying? after 2 years of lies that wouldn't fool a child maybe *this* time it's the truth, aye right.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Sarah Huckabee Sanders will leave her post as White House press secretary at the end of the month, President Trump announced on Thursday.

What sort of new job will a serial liar find?
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders will leave her post as White House press secretary at the end of the month, President Trump announced on Thursday.

What sort of new job will a serial liar find?
That's a bit hypocritical.

It's just PR. There's tens of thousands of these jobs, within big companies.
Nothing unusual, really, IMO.
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That's a bit hypocritical.

It's just PR. There's tens of thousands of these jobs, within big companies.
Nothing unusual, really, IMO.
There was me thinking it was irony?
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